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25th July, 2008 at 01:33:53 -

Hmm, I used to use construct, AND backup my saves, but then the program crashed on my one day, I tried loading my main save, and the backups, heck I even uninstalled and reinstalled the program, all of my saves somehow got corrupt. Then I bought mmf2 and never had a problem with crashes, or corrupt files for that matter.

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25th July, 2008 at 11:26:15 -

Will people stop complaining about an incomplete software already? It's not like MMF2 was complete when they started to SELL it.

 
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25th July, 2008 at 13:53:20 -

yeah construct is still beta therefore its basically SUPPOSED to crash and destroy all your files...

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25th July, 2008 at 17:38:56 -


Originally Posted by AndyUK


So you think because you and Adam haven't had any problems in your limited experience in click that there are none?
I'm sure people can tell the difference between a glitch and their own limitation.

haha I can't believe you two are still saying it's all the user's faults. Maybe you both spend most of your time somewhere other than the event editor?.



You make graphics, you arrange them correctly, you go straight to the event editor and spend most of your time there making it work. Excuse me if the event editor is really the only place you should be through the last 4/5th of your games construction.

Limited experience? Based on mine, or even mine and Adams creations, I'd say we have more experience then a good half of this whole web site, and especially more experience then all the people bitching about MMF2 being really glitchy. I mean, there's no doubt the interface has some issues, but none of them are truly surprising after you've been hit with them a few times, so you learn how to avoid them, and it's not like a cow in the middle of a road... it's more like a cow in the middle of a significantly longer side road.

If the user is unable to do something because of a 'glitch', but then someone else was able to do it just fine... guess what, it's the users fault. Yeah, the program might be largely at fault here too, but it's not impossible so the fact that the user is unable to do it, is the users fault for not being able to utilize the tools correctly. Multimedia Fusions 2 logic is fine, which is all you need to design a game. Logic and the skill to understand and use it.

 
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25th July, 2008 at 20:07:38 -

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26th July, 2008 at 02:21:12 -

I can't believe how much hate there is towards construct (Except for LIJI since he supposedly knows "the truth") - if people want to use it they should. If they think MMF is too glitchy then they'll think construct is too and probably any application - I've always thought this site accepted games made in anything but was just a click community mainly?

I've had a lot of bad object in MMF2 (but I'm a compulsive back-upper 3 auto-backups and I copy the whole game after the end of the work day), I've had it crash and lose work and with construct it crashes all the time but I don't complain about it. I run MMF on a freshly installed well protected copy of XP too, so I think I'm "taking good care of it".

If the guy wants to use construct who are we to say not to? He might not want to shell out money for MMF2?




 
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26th July, 2008 at 07:25:21 -

I was never saying Construct is bad, I'm merely defending MMF2 because it deserves a little more credit then it gets.

 
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26th July, 2008 at 10:11:53 -

i just can't believe people are still complaining about it. i used tgf before mmf2 and im uber happy. talk about an upgrade. i also have never had an issue with it. none that wasnt my own damn fault. stick to it and find away around your problems.

 
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26th July, 2008 at 19:45:05 -


Originally Posted by Random Cecil
i just can't believe people are still complaining about it. i used tgf before mmf2 and im uber happy. talk about an upgrade. i also have never had an issue with it. none that wasnt my own damn fault. stick to it and find away around your problems.


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26th July, 2008 at 20:36:04 -

Well Brandon, by all means defend it if the criticism is false.
However stating that people are whining because they are finding it hard to understand MMF2's 'perfect logic' and downright insulting everyone because they happen to dislike something that they feel should work is uncalled for.

I too have never come across anything that has held me back other than my own skill, however ive asked people for help many times to make something more complex and they've almost always struggled with something bizarre that should work in theory but just wont.

SO perhaps you overestimate your own abilities for pushing MMF2 hard enough to break it?

 
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26th July, 2008 at 20:40:59 -

I haven't come close to breaking MMF2, though I used to break TGF all the time for my own means. Hmm, I might have to try to break fusion2 now.

 
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26th July, 2008 at 21:21:33 -


Originally Posted by AndyUK
Well Brandon, by all means defend it if the criticism is false.
However stating that people are whining because they are finding it hard to understand MMF2's 'perfect logic' and downright insulting everyone because they happen to dislike something that they feel should work is uncalled for.

I too have never come across anything that has held me back other than my own skill, however ive asked people for help many times to make something more complex and they've almost always struggled with something bizarre that should work in theory but just wont.

SO perhaps you overestimate your own abilities for pushing MMF2 hard enough to break it?



Anyone can take a shovel and break it by pushing on 1 side and stomping on the other. It takes a little more knowledge to know how to use it in various ways that don't involve breaking it. Consider MMF2 the same way. I know how to break it, and with said knowledge, I know how to avoid it.

 
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26th July, 2008 at 21:45:12 -

yeah i can break my copy of MMF2 by snapping the disk in half.

 
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26th July, 2008 at 22:14:04 -


Originally Posted by AndyUK
yeah i can break my copy of MMF2 by snapping the disk in half.


But you wont later complain that the disk was made of flimsy plastic which is why it broke when you tried bend it. That's what separates you between most of the people on this site, who are complaining about MMF2. That, and you know it's stupid of you to try to break it, meanwhile everyone else here keeps doing it and whining about it.

 
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26th July, 2008 at 22:29:20 -


Originally Posted by BrandonC

Originally Posted by AndyUK
yeah i can break my copy of MMF2 by snapping the disk in half.


But you wont later complain that the disk was made of flimsy plastic which is why it broke when you tried bend it. That's what separates you between most of the people on this site, who are complaining about MMF2. That, and you know it's stupid of you to try to break it, meanwhile everyone else here keeps doing it and whining about it.



I think the problem is that people don't know when they're breaking MMF2 until it happens. Lots of people simply give up at that point.

 
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