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2nd June, 2008 at 14:14:18 -

My 24" monitor doesn't support low resolutions either but when sat back in a mofo comfy chair with a mofo comfy controller then (aspect ratio pending) it looks beautiful. Up close it has all that stretching and stuff.

 
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2nd June, 2008 at 14:35:58 -

I understand the point about strecthed graphics. My old thinkpad 600 would display fullscreen games horribly, while my desktop would display them beautifully even with the same resolution. It likely has to do with physical screen size and proportions, or the hardware's interpreter. However, many flash games look crappy fullscreen as well, and I've only run into two Click games that were fullscreen and looked bad. Most of those games were made back before larger screen resolutions existed.

 

  		
  		

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2nd June, 2008 at 18:12:27 -

I like the interface with TGF and MMF 2, very simple tools to make games and easy to pick up with no back round knowledge needed in programing which is a major , For me though Flash is the ultimate drawing tool and i actually do all my drawings and animations in Flash and convert them into TGF/MMF 2!

I wouldn't be making games with out both of these products there like my right and left arm!

 
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3rd June, 2008 at 15:55:47 -

Glad to hear that! I'm sorry to say that I won't be going back to TGF or MMF2 ever again. I'm happy with Flash so I'll stick with that.

While I'm here I'll plug some of my latest games;

http://alexfili.deviantart.com/art/Find-a-Zombie-Keep-a-Zombie-83090606
http://alexfili.deviantart.com/art/Darkness-Within-87059875
http://alexfili.deviantart.com/art/High-Voltage-Origins-77268566

FAZKAZ is a RPG, Darkness Within is a tower-defense simulator and HVrigins is a turn-based RPG. I've made some other games, feel free to make comments.

 
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3rd June, 2008 at 18:12:40 -

My comment is, why come when I merely *ask* about posting demo updates (Or games) in the forums, I get yelled at... but nobody's touched yours, and they aren't even TGF! (I didn't ask about posting demos in the forum, I asked, in the forum, about posting new demos on my projects page.) Anyway, I'm sad to hear that part about not returning to click products, but... to each his own! Since non-click games are allowed here, I see no reason not to stay and contribute!

 

  		
  		

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3rd June, 2008 at 21:19:32 -

Flash is awful as a programme, it's interface is messy, the draw tools are shite - but I can see the draw that it has. There's not many apps that can produce a full game that anyone can play online or offline without having to resort to full-on programming languages.

 
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4th June, 2008 at 08:10:22 -

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If flash teaches you programming skills... Why not learn them properly by programming? Just because you learn coding practices doesn't make it a good tool either .

"Not that much work. Arguably the platform engine is the hardest thing to do, and that's one of the easiest gametypes to be honest. "

Make a game like Tormishire, CaveStory or Eternal Daughter in flash and I'll believe it's easy I've coded a platform engine in flash - it is most certainly not the hardest thing to do. What is the hardest thing is the badly implemented we-kind-started-and-didn't-make-it-work-right instance control. Anyway - I'm sick of arguing with people who only respond to points that they can argue against instead of actually taking on board my opinion which they asked for. The only good thing I see in flash is cross platform installations and a very large user base.

Anyway, fullscreen 320x240 does fill my 24" screen and it looks lovely - I can't even tell games are stretched most of the time.

Also, I went a bit mad there didn't I! It's just annoys me when someone asks for an opinion - gets one - starts a debate - ignores my points and then proceeds to tell me I'm wrong about the one thing he can find a hole in.

 
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4th June, 2008 at 13:02:41 -

Sorry bout that. I have a habit of doing that.
I do appreciate your comments.

 
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4th June, 2008 at 15:51:51 -

You all got me wrong! >_>
I hate tiny full screen games because they mess up my windows...

 
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4th June, 2008 at 16:09:26 -

It may not be as widespread as flash, but Vitalize! Provides a way to play games online. Granted, it's not cross-platform yet, but snobbish Mac users aren't likely to play your little click games. (Not all Mac users are snobs, but the apple store's atmosphere is horrendous! It's like nerds who think they're cool, yet they're still nerds. Plus, they smell funny. )

 

  		
  		

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4th June, 2008 at 17:35:28 -


Originally Posted by AS Filipowski
I was here to listen to your thoughts, and wonder why you still made games using click products. I never came to start a war, I was just stating my opinion.

Flash games are better suited to vector graphics and Click games are somewhat geared towards sprites, but both tools are quite useful for programmers.



I think this thread made it quite obvious that you didn't come here to simply ask; you can here to ask, then attack anyone who disagreed with you.

 
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5th June, 2008 at 01:13:39 -


Originally Posted by AS Filipowski
Sorry bout that. I have a habit of doing that.
I do appreciate your comments.



That's better .


Originally Posted by LIJI
You all got me wrong! >_>
I hate tiny full screen games because they mess up my windows...



Ah yes, that does annoy me - when all my windows become 320x240... And MSN windows fill the screen... Gamemaker games in fullscreen don't cause that though :S.

 
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5th June, 2008 at 09:44:44 -

Why is this topic still alive again? Nothing personal, AS Filipowski, but if you seriously think Flash is better than Click for game making, methinks there is something wrong with your head. Not really, but I am having trouble understanding why.

Edit: If the MMF2 interface is similar to TGF2's interface (I know the icons are smaller, but yea...) than I agree that the interface can be a pain. I still use TGF for this reason. When was the last time you made a click game? It may be better now if you give it time... I know that I thought Flash's interface was a pain until I gave it some.

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5th June, 2008 at 09:56:29 -


Originally Posted by JonWoG
"And of course, you're 99.9% confident that someone else can play it." - This makes no sense!?



It doesn't. A lot of people have Flash. A lot don't. I don't have Flash installed on my XP partition since I don't want Flash adverts and I don't play Flash games.

 
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5th June, 2008 at 10:07:11 -

I could make a game with RPG maker and be guaranteed lots of people to play it. Thats not reason enough to use a different product to the one I'm used to.

I would only learn flash to make videos, which i'm sure is what most people use it for, and likely for a very good reason as many people have been saying.

 
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