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istvan



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4th August, 2004 at 07:04:19 -

Oh my god! Well informed Christians I don't mind, but you, Yami, I can't stand.
Well done to EvisceratoR and Radix for adding some sense into this conversation.

I'd just like to add something to what Radix has said about evolution.

'...and why havent we evolved again.'
Evolution takes thousands of years. What you are saying is how come we havent moved on from the point that we're at. In which case I will say it simply, we have moved on from the place that we WERE at, and we are currently moving onto the place we WILL be at. It's not like Pokemon where you are suddenly at one stage then suddenly at the next. We are currently evolving, as our bodies are reacting to the new environments we are building for ourselves.

'Your expecting me to believe a group of men over what God says.'
A group of men wrote the Bible, not God. A group of men AND women have done scientific research into Darwin's theory of evolution.

You are clearing a very brainwashed individual, and are welcome to all the 'faith' you want. You, and presumably all of the other religious people are not going to change your mind because of what you read on the internet. Just as every non-religious person here will not suddenly 'praise the lord' after reading your ill informed, unstructured responses.

If there were an official debate between both sides here I would put my money on the athiest team.

Good day.

 
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BattleCat



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4th August, 2004 at 07:05:52 -

Since science is theory so believers of it (should) accept it doesn't have to be true. You're claiming the bible is the truth so the source has to be god, and you can't prove it is, so it's perfectly valid for us to doubt what you're saying.

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Yami



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4th August, 2004 at 07:14:52 -

Men wrote the Bible. What they said was not their oppinions but what God told them to put! If anything I say to you makes sense let it be this! ANY OF YOU PROVE ME THAT THE BIBLE IS WRONG ANYTHIGN IN IT! You like the other scientist will only have theorys. Those theorys all have flaws. Tell me what flaw is there in the perfection of Gods words!

 
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Yami



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4th August, 2004 at 07:16:57 -

I cant prove its right? If you cant prove it wrong then where is there to doubt it not being right!

 
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4th August, 2004 at 07:16:59 -

I think it's pretty flawed to say the men who wrote the bible had their info directly from god when you can't prove it. That makes it a theory just like science.

 
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Yami



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4th August, 2004 at 07:18:09 -

You cant prove its not though!ROFL

 
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4th August, 2004 at 07:18:53 -

[i]I cant prove its right? If you cant prove it wrong then where is there to doubt it not being right![/i]

That's like saying someone is guilty before they're proven not to be.
Our society is built on christian principles, therefore no-one is guilty until proven so, therefore god doesn't exist before it's proven that he does.

 
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Yami



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4th August, 2004 at 07:21:37 -

Im going to bed now its funny how you say it has flaws yet you cant prove anything being wrong in it. You say no proff but you cant prove there is a thing wrong so shut up.

 
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Radix

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4th August, 2004 at 07:23:38 -

>>ANY OF YOU PROVE ME THAT THE BIBLE IS WRONG ANYTHIGN IN IT!
I like a challenge. Too bad you had to ask this.

Take fish. Take noah's flood. It's generally agreed that noah couldn't have taken two of every fish aboard (not only is there no mention of it; it would have been technologically impossible for him), so it's taken that all the fish in the world survived the flood because hey, they're fish, right? Fishies looove water.

However, he have both freshwater and saltwater fish. While some species can survive varying salinity, not all can. If there was a flood, we should not have any fish today that can't survive in both salt and fresh water.

(Oh, should I mention that the flood event in the bible is a concatenation of two different flood myths?)

If you need another example I've got them up the wazoo.

 
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4th August, 2004 at 07:25:19 -

Yami dude, just because nobody replies to you five minutes after a post doesn't mean you've somehow won. Some of us like to think things out first.

 
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4th August, 2004 at 07:29:50 -

i think it's funny how you say god exists and that what's in the bible is what he said when you can't prove it. And saying stuff like "shut up" isn't very christian i think...doesn't the bible say you're supposed to accept people who are different ?

apart from that, it sounds like something a person who can't convince us would say in frustration. Why can't you just accept that god's existence is a theory just like science ?

 
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Yami



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4th August, 2004 at 07:31:38 -

Thats the whole point in Gods ways. To make it to heaven you must believe him and have faith to prove you are worthy in his kingdom. He has nothing to prove who he is simple because you dont believe in him. If you dont believe in anything happening after you die then what does it hurt to believe that God is real. Your just scared he's real so you make up theorys an excuses so you dont have to change your way of life.

A fish is a fish. Where did it say every race of fish.. Example: A dog is a dog no matter what breed.

 
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4th August, 2004 at 07:35:28 -

For god to have his ways, he has to exist. I'm asking you to tell me how you can claim god exists person to person, theory against theory.

 
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Yami



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4th August, 2004 at 07:36:19 -

How can you say not very Christian when you dont even believe in it??? The funny thing is you sayin except people for who they are. Jesus went telling the great news. He didnt except people who lived un Godly (none believers).

 
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4th August, 2004 at 07:39:11 -

just because i'm not christian doesn't mean i can't know what's christian-like..
that's like saying a democrat can't say communism is bad, just because he's not a communist.

 
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