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Yami



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4th August, 2004 at 06:13:04 -

I dont know about you, but I dont wanna take the risk if heaven and hell is real with the chance to be staying in hell for eternity. Just readin about hell makes me wanna never die.

 
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Yami



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4th August, 2004 at 06:14:29 -

Ok then tell me where the monkeys come from? Darwin only stated we look alike.

 
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4th August, 2004 at 06:18:08 -

Exactly, it's a theory. I can't tell you where monkies came from, i only have my theory. I was just saying what i think is more believable.

 
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4th August, 2004 at 06:19:59 -

You dont have an answer to it all ,but the bible does. I dont care what nerd tells me a theory. No theory is more believable than the truth.

 
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4th August, 2004 at 06:24:22 -

Why do you think it's the truth ? what do you have to back it up with ? that it's in an old book that a lot of people live by ? that fact that thousands stand by something doesn't make it true.

Besides, i think most of the "answers" the bible has are old assumptions from decades ago to explain stuff people didn't understand. This makes me believe more in science from the last couple of hundred years, than i do an old book.

(and to eliminate any doubts: These are just questions, i'm not critisizing you or anyone else)

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4th August, 2004 at 06:33:33 -

>>Or something a guy made up in his mind that we were all made by rocks colliding.
Try the dedicated work of hundreds of scientific minds. Shitting on their memories doesn't make you very christian, does it?

>>Ok then tell me where the monkeys come from?
Monkies, as with all other modern primates, decended from earlier primates, which decended from the early mammals, which decended from small dinosaurs, which decended from mosasaurs, which decended from amphibious fish, which decended from regular primitive fish, which decended from primitive vertebrates.

>>Darwin only stated we look alike.
I don't know what people are feeding you, but Darwin certainly went into quite a bit more detail than that.

 
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4th August, 2004 at 06:33:52 -

Ill just say what you said earlier. It's more believable. Are you gonna take the risk of going to hell forever, because you didnt have faith to not question it all and believe it. I know your theorys wrong simple, because if monkeys transformed into man then why are there still monkeys here and why havent we evolved again. I could make up something more believable than that crap. Heres a question for you. Why do think so many people beleive in it and have spiritual relationships with GOD if its all un true. Your problem is you dont have any faith. Just cause you havent seen a million dollars doesnt make it not real.

 
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4th August, 2004 at 06:37:49 -

Where did vertebrates come from then! Your expecting me to believe a group of men over what God says. Then to tell me thats not very christian!

 
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4th August, 2004 at 06:44:07 -

These men put a lot of effort into researching what they claimed so they have reasons for saying what they are. How do you know God even exists, and that he said this ? just because a bunch of priests or whatevers wrote it in a book doesn't make it true. What proof do you have that these people were in direct contact with "god" and got what they wrote from him ?

(note: i don't believe in heaven or hell, so i don't have to worry about going there. And i live a perfectly rich life even though i'm not a believer)

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4th August, 2004 at 06:47:00 -

Sigh.

>>Are you gonna take the risk of going to hell forever, because you didnt have faith to not question it all and believe it.
You're talking about Pascal's wager, which is flawed. It's the desire to beleive to avoid an imagined consequence, not actual belief.

>>I know your theorys wrong simple, because if monkeys transformed into man then why are there still monkeys here and why havent we evolved again.
We did not evolve from monkeys. Monkeys, apes and humans all decended from a common ancestor. All animals alive today are equally evolved; even living precursors.

>>Heres a question for you. Why do think so many people beleive in it and have spiritual relationships with GOD if its all un true.
Because religion provides alleiviation from the fear of death. All humans fundamentally desire to be immortal, and the concept of an afterlife allows them to fool themselves. Ignorance, as they say, is bliss. People are eager to accept anything that will make them feel better abotu the human condition.

>>Your problem is you dont have any faith.
My 'problem' is that I would rather trust the sum of human knowledge than kicking civilisation back four hundred years because an ancient book of fairytales tells us to.

 
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4th August, 2004 at 06:53:22 -

You cant prove me he doesnt existed so why are you arguing. Well I guess its your risk to find out when you die. Not a single priest wrote in the Bible. Priest have nothing to do with this. Their just teachers of God. Scientist are humans they make mistakes God doesnt. You can fathem about it hundreds of years, asking questions about logic and not believing having faith. You wont prove anything.

 
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4th August, 2004 at 06:57:11 -

You can't prove he DOES exist so why are you arguing ?

 
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4th August, 2004 at 06:59:52 -

A book of fairy tales! Have you read it? Fairy tales can be proven wrong you cant say God isnt real strictly because you dont know. Why havent you answer my vertebrae question. You keep telling me what things evolved from yet you cant tell me what the first being came from. was Nothingness! My friend humans may have technology but yours seems more of a fairy tale than mine.

 
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4th August, 2004 at 07:03:07 -

You cant answer me by asking a question. I cant prove it because no ones died and came back to tell it. I dont have to prove God is real you will know on the day of Judgement!

 
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4th August, 2004 at 07:03:43 -

Eviscerator is correct. It is a fundamental principle that nothing unobserved can exist prior to evidence of its existance. Otherwise, it's perfectly valid for me to say that the sun is fuelled by eight enormous purple elephants on a treadmill.

>>Where did vertebrates come from then!
I only stopped because it was getting silly. Vertebrates came from invertebrates. Invertebrates came from simpler invertebrates, which came from (well, are) simple multi-celled organisms. Massive shock -- these came from single-celled organisms! If you have a particular question on the subject I'd be happy to answer it.

 
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