ukrainianite, homosexuals do NOT choose to be homosexual no more than you choose to be heterosexual. Unless you want to argue that satan also tempts animals (homosexualism is also seen among animals) ... but as far as I know only man has the privilege of entering the heaven (or hell which is not really a privilege).
So, god did actually create people to be homosexual if we keep the religious view. Ive posted this before, but find it necessary to repeat. Marriage between the individual and government and marriage between the individual and religion is two seperate things. In terms of law and government homosexual as well as heterosexual marriage should be allowed since it is not the government or law to decide who can be married (unless in certain extreme cases like marriage with an underaged etc.). If a religion wish to make a religious marriage with a homosexual couple or not is INTERELY up to the religion itself.
People who believe you can choose your sexuality, think about this. I am a male. What do I feel if I think about having sex with another man? I feel sick. I feel like puking. I think it is one of the most disgusting things in the world. I would do it if death was the only alternative (asuming I would die did I not do it) ... however I would avoid it at all costs. I am sure you (males) feel similarly. At least if you are heterosexual. Now science have stated that homosexuals are psychologically similar to heterosexuals (they are "normal"). This means that if homosexuals choose their sexuality they actually choose something that disgust them. Would that not be weird? Also why would anyone choose a sexuality that they knew would oppress them? As homosexuals are as "normal" as heterosexuals it does not make sense.
The way I see it, it's pointless to try and argue with gay supporters. They aren't going to aknowledge any view but their own, and when they see a different view, they won't do anything but shoot it down with out any second thoughts about what is trying to be gotten across.
Wise sayings:
"A pint of example is worth a gallon of advice."
"Do unto others as you want done unto you."
"An idea is nothing without effort."
"HOLY CRAP!"
Anyway, can everyone stop this anti-catholic shite(although I don't mind what pete did, because Father Ted is hilarious)? Our teachings are NOT a contradiction. What certain excommunicated priests do does not represent the views of the church. That's like saying that because one teacher took drugs, it is the teaching of schools that kids should take drugs. These "bad eggs" do not represent the church, nowhere in the teachings of the church is such activity encouraged, and so
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30th June, 2004 at 06:22:11 -
wait wait wait, what's with the double standard teapot? why is it ok for you to shun homosexuality, but when someone starts poking fun at catholicism, a belief system which is a choice and not psychologically predetermined, you get your knickers in a twist? this "anti catholic shite" is opinion, just like all the other posts in this thread.
Blackstorm, the opposite is true as well, as this thread proves. And I don't think I've seen a convincing argument about homosexuality being a CHOICE, whereas our 'nature and/or nurture' theory is more likely and applies to other areas of behaviour as well. (as proven by scientific studies)
Teapot: My comment wasn't aimed at Catholicism itself but the PEOPLE who teach it and their hypocrisy. The point was that they set a bad example, and there are a lot of sheep out there.
Another thing, having to do with animals being "gay".
They are not gay. When a male gets on a male, they are showing their dominance over the lower male. Not gay, like you unnatural people would like to believe.
Wise sayings:
"A pint of example is worth a gallon of advice."
"Do unto others as you want done unto you."
"An idea is nothing without effort."
"HOLY CRAP!"
"Say you're hanging from a huge cliff at the top of mt. everest and a guy comes along and says he'll save you, and proceeds to throw religious pamphlets at you while simultaniously giving a sermon." - Dustin G
God, all you people with your 2000 year old ideas that you us because you hate everyone that is not like you. It's everywhere. If your'e different in a very small way, people hate you. Well I hate those people not open to new ideas, who use "God" or the "sacred act of marriage" as a way to justify racism. Noone cares, piss off.
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Pete Nattress Cheesy Bits img src/uploads/sccheesegif
Using Religion as a grounds for racism? I haven't used it at all, and none of the people who have used religion in their posts have used it as grounds for "racism" either. Homosexuality is not a race, though the population of them seems to make it look so. Have you seriously seen anyone bash someone else because they are slightly different? No. So quit smokin' your drugs and shut up, wizard.
And regarding the beginning of your post...
"God, all you people with your 2000 year old ideas"
The reason these ideas have been around for 2000+ years is because they work, and maintain civility in the world. If we were to let these ideas go, then the USA, if not the world, would become a civilization of drooling idiots.
If you would like, wizard, you and all the other gays can go to a big island all your own, and die while trying to figure out why you can't make babies.
Wise sayings:
"A pint of example is worth a gallon of advice."
"Do unto others as you want done unto you."
"An idea is nothing without effort."
"HOLY CRAP!"
"The reason these ideas have been around for 2000+ years is because they work, and maintain civility in the world. If we were to let these ideas go, then the USA, if not the world, would become a civilization of drooling idiots."
Want to know some other +2000 year old ideas? Slavery, torture, rape... I guess all of those helped keep the USA a civilization too, huh?
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