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23rd April, 2010 at 20:39:10 -

I'm a bit upset about this, mostly because now I'll probably never get to see episode 201 but also because of what this says to the rest of the world. If we are willing to give up free speech because some violent religious people want you dead for it, then we never really had free speech to begin with.

I'm mad at comedy central for not having any balls
I'm mad at anyone who agrees with what they did
I'm mad at the Muslims for being homicidal jerks
and i'm mad at the peaceful Muslims who haven't spoken out against the death threats

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23rd April, 2010 at 21:17:02 -

torrent it? Unless you mean the completely uncensored version which afaik isn't around.

 
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It didn't get pulled, it got altered, didn't it?

 
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23rd April, 2010 at 22:21:22 -

A number of places have pulled the episode, such as comedy central and itunes afaik.

 
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23rd April, 2010 at 22:44:22 -

I missed the news. What happened?

 
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23rd April, 2010 at 23:24:49 -

If what you said Ricky is true (and i have no reason to doubt you, so i don't!), then i agree with everything you said!

What a load of B.S.! - this is the sort of crap that fuels the likes of the BNP!

 
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24th April, 2010 at 00:00:07 -

I guess if it's southpark being crazily controversial like usual then there's a little bit of reasoning, but things like:

http://rjjago.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/police-order-teen-to-remove-english-flag-because-its-offensive/

Really piss me off

 
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24th April, 2010 at 00:09:22 -

That pisses me off too. The more official bodies prescribe the English flag as being potentially racist or offensive, the more it gets taken to heart by the racists themselves and away from the everyday people who just want to show a bit of unity and support.

Seems the only time you can show an English flag is when the football's on.

 
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24th April, 2010 at 02:02:22 -


Originally Posted by Matt Boothman
It didn't get pulled, it got altered, didn't it?



It only aired once and will probably never air again, every time they said the word Mohamed it was bleeped by comedy central, and kyles "i learned a lesson" speech was completely bleeped put even though it had nothing to do with Muhammad. see here at 2:40 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCPP5BZ3JCk

the episode was supposed to re-air twice already but hasn't. It also wan't uploaded to southparkstudios.com like every other episode normally is. Also episode 200 and the "SUPER BEST FRIEND" episode were pulled from the website. Instead, we get an apology from the creator that reads:

"In the 14 years we’ve been doing South Park we have never done a show that we couldn’t stand behind. We delivered our version of the show to Comedy Central and they made a determination to alter the episode. It wasn’t some meta-joke on our part. Comedy Central added the bleeps. In fact, Kyle’s customary final speech was about intimidation and fear. It didn’t mention Muhammad at all but it got bleeped too. We’ll be back next week with a whole new show about something completely different and we’ll see what happens to it."



 
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24th April, 2010 at 02:41:49 -

What did they say in it? People don't be homicidal jerks for no reason. Unless they're already established terrorists. Because a while ago, there were some very offensive comics about Muslims in certain parts of Europe. I don't know about this South Park episode, and you could be completely and absolutely right, Ricky, but sometimes freedom of speech needs to be abridged. You wouldn't allow some random guy to go out and rail about how all black people are evil or how all Jewish people must die or some bullsh** like that.

 
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24th April, 2010 at 03:11:00 -


Originally Posted by Watermelon876
but sometimes freedom of speech needs to be abridged.



NO NO NO! ALL speech must be protected weather or not we like it. Your kind of thinking is disgusting to me. Free speech is the protection of unpopular speech, popular speech doesn't need any protection.


Originally Posted by Watermelon876
What did they say in it? People don't be homicidal jerks for no reason.



They said nothing about islam, they were just criticizing the fact that we aren't allowed to criticize it. And to show the double standard, they showed Jesus viewing porn and Buda snorting drugs, neither of which stirred up any calls for censorship, nor should they have.


Originally Posted by Watermelon876
Because a while ago, there were some very offensive comics about Muslims in certain parts of Europe.



Yeah there were, and those people also received death threats! Why do you rather get upset at the people peacefully practicing speech and defend those who use violence to get their way? Is your morality? Making fun of people = EVIL but death threats = A OK (straw man fallacy i know, just proving a point)



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24th April, 2010 at 09:54:29 -

@Ricky - your post above is right, right, and so right!

@Adam - i agree with you on something for once, that copper shows exactly what kind of people are ruining this country. It is due to these sorts of reasons why i do not support liberal or left wing political parties who pander to this kind of crap; making criminals of average joe-publics and protecting the people who want to blow us up for fear of offending their human rights. It's bloody crazy!

 
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24th April, 2010 at 12:05:38 -

It's gonna come back and bite them in the ass. Those South Park episodes were fairly tame. Now people are bound to be pissed off about the death threats and make far worse depictions of Islam and Muhammed.

 
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24th April, 2010 at 19:46:48 -

I never agreed with them, but I'm just trying to show you another point of view. Hitler was originally elected democratically. I really think that they shouldn't have allowed Jesus watching porn or Buddha with drugs either. THose are both very offensive.

Of course, It doesn't seem that offensive, so I really don't think that they should have censored it.

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24th April, 2010 at 20:15:03 -

It's South Park. If you're easily offended you shouldn't watch it. If you are easily offended and still watch it then you're either an idiot, or you're just looking for something to bitch about (and still an idiot)

And what does Hitler has to do with this?

 
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