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13th August, 2009 at 01:23:28 -

"Yes because killing someone for stealing a TV is self-defense "

I hope that was sarcasm.

 
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13th August, 2009 at 01:25:30 -

Which god are we talking about?

 
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13th August, 2009 at 01:32:56 -


Originally Posted by -Adam-
"Yes because killing someone for stealing a TV is self-defense "

I hope that was sarcasm.



Yes. -____-;; It was sarcasm.

 

  		
  		

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13th August, 2009 at 01:49:23 -

LOL

 
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13th August, 2009 at 02:06:23 -


Originally Posted by OldManClayton

I don't think we should bring theology into this. In fact I think we've all said what we think. Or shall we continue in never-ending circles?



We're not in a never ending circle, we're moving from topic to topic regarding crime and such. And I think it's a healthy debate. Just because it's touching upon an issue that is close to you personally (Religion) doesn't mean it should be closed. This is good! TDC, she'sa growing up.

But continue...

 
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13th August, 2009 at 02:08:21 -

I think you misunderstood my intentions, (and it did start to feel a bit repetitive to me) but feel free to continue. I said what I wanted to say.

 

  		
  		

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13th August, 2009 at 02:15:01 -


Originally Posted by OldManClayton
I think you misunderstood my intentions, (and it did start to feel a bit repetitive to me) but feel free to continue. I said what I wanted to say.



I didn't! I forgot to say "with all due respect", but I hope that was intended enough.

 
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13th August, 2009 at 02:21:46 -

No worries! I don't expect anything from you nor was I offended in any way.

I'm not all so mean that people feel the need to say "with all due respect," am I? ;__;

 

  		
  		

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13th August, 2009 at 18:55:40 -

Let's just start a new thread about gun cotrol, 'kay? And you don't have to kill someone with a gun. YOu could threaten them, club them with it, or even use shoot it against the ground to fly into space with the recoil.

 
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Originally Posted by Not A Taco
Let's just start a new thread about gun cotrol, 'kay? And you don't have to kill someone with a gun. YOu could threaten them, club them with it, or even use shoot it against the ground to fly into space with the recoil.


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14th August, 2009 at 09:55:18 -


Originally Posted by MrPineapple
you cant send these people to jail if there is no space in said jail



We should take all the hard-core criminals to Somalia and leave them there. Then when they join up with the pirates we can send marines to shoot them dead. Or maybe they'll starve, that'd work too, now there's a question, why feed the prisoners at all?
Should just leave them to starve for a few weeks only giving them water and if they don't die, give them a meal then resume the starving again.
Problem solved right?
I bet crime would be much lower. Have any of you ever not had food? ... it's not fun.

You guys know you've turned this guys post from a single instance of his daughter getting attacked into a crime and punishment/voting/gun control topic right?

Btw, forget guns, lets all wear swords again ... think about it, you really wanna try to mug someone who has a sword and knows how to use it? You've got to be close to mug someone so as to get their money right (unless you plan on yelling at them from a distance to throw their wallet your way, which may alert others)? And swords can beat guns close range depending upon the user. You have to reach for a gun same as you'd have to reach for a sword, difference is the sword strikes quicker, you have to aim a gun first and when they already have theirs pointed at you, it's not going to do you any good. But imagine a samurai sword on your belt, grab and strike in one motion while leaning out of the way of wherever they are aiming. Noone wants to lose limbs over a few dollars. I know I'd much rather be dead than to live with no arms. And sword beats knife with its longer range. No matter what you do, you'd have to be crazy to try and not hesitate even the slightest. It's better to lose money than your life.

You know that it's easier to disarm a gun from someone than it is to disarm a knife right? ... Knives tend to cut you if you grab them from someone, but if you are quick and close enough, it is possible to grab a gun while moving and rip it out of the muggers hand (this will break his finger if it's in the loop round the trigger; most guns have loops). It's not something one should try unless well practiced though for obvious reasons. Better to lose the money in your wallet than your life.


 
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14th August, 2009 at 12:39:27 -

Looks like a bit of a derail. Granted, stupid kids and gun laws are a similar topic.. but guys, start another thread about gun laws if you really want to talk about it. Otherwise, I'd feel guilty about discussing it.

 
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14th August, 2009 at 18:09:39 -

On my final note in this section no one has yet to tell me how banning guns helped us in UK, hand gun crime has continued to rise. Which in my mind proves the point that guns used for bad are generally illegally obtained ones anyway.

Anyway I think this topic has been flogged to death...


 
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14th August, 2009 at 21:37:06 -

It's funny you mention banning hand-guns in the UK and trying to link it to a recent rise in gun crime, as if it was a recent thing. Not once in the last century have non-permit holders been able to hold a gun; not even during both World Wars were British people ever allowed to have unlicensed guns..

So when you say 'continued to rise' I'd like to know from what this rise has continued from? The 1860s?

As an aside, I hope MBK's suggestions weren't actual thoughts that went through his head. I mean, what would the Somalians think about it if we sent over all our "hard-core criminals". I bet they wouldn't be exactly dancing a jig. And the starving idea is whats called "killing people". And that isn't good, is it?

And for those that suggest this discussion has gone "off-topic" I would kindly point out that the thread title is "What is wrong with the world?" which is as open a topic as you're ever going to get. This is a forum, discussions take courses not convergent with the original intention; get used to it.

 
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