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10th January, 2008 at 09:26:36 -

Admin, would it be possible to notify the creator of a thread when you delete their thread and why, especially if it's a serious thread? I think I deserve an explanation as to why my thread about making peace on TDC has been deleted? Perhaps a fight started on it whilst I was asleep? If not, it wasn't some joke or spam-thread, I was actually serious (for once, yes -_-), and I find it kinda sad that a thread about making peace has been deleted.

I posted it under the Daily Click section:

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So yeah, it would be nice to know why it's been deleted, several others agree with me.

I have mailed a couple of you personally about it too, but I think it should perhaps be a rule that the person is told why their thread is deleted (if not common decency)

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10th January, 2008 at 09:31:39 -

I'm with Adam on this one, the thread (When I last looked anyway) seemed perfectly legit, sad it was deleted if there was no real reasoning for it. I agree a message should be sent to the topic creator if their thread gets deleted explaining the reason.

 
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10th January, 2008 at 09:32:21 -

Deleting threads without explanation is, as said many times before, very lame. It's actually one of the two reasons I haven't posted anything serious in the last 3 years. Apart from that, there was nothing wrong with that thread. Deleting it was like burning a white flag or something.

 
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10th January, 2008 at 09:48:58 -

Although I'm not exactly in love with Adam, I'd have to agree with him on this one.
My topics and others were deleted without telling why (although the reason wasn't obvious) which I find very annoying.
Of course if someone opens a topic which actually only says "I hate xxx with passion" or a topic about illegal stuff the explanation wouldn't be needed, but it happens many times that the reason is VERY not obvious.

 
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10th January, 2008 at 09:50:51 -

Administrator don't have to notify about deleting thread. I don't think it's lame or rude or something else. Actually all the topics focusing on community members instead of something practical may be annoying for administrator.

 
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10th January, 2008 at 10:38:06 -

The message is that Adam shouldn't change.

Rock on Rude Adam!

 
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10th January, 2008 at 10:39:19 -

Of course they should, if they want a community to work they can't keep playing gods and deleting topics because they personally don't like them, they need to look at if from everyone's point of view.

 
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10th January, 2008 at 10:39:20 -

The Nth topic requesting Phizzy should be unbanned didn't get deleted though.

 
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10th January, 2008 at 10:42:54 -

No, James -_-'

 
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10th January, 2008 at 10:46:59 -


Originally Posted by X_Sheep
The Nth topic requesting Phizzy should be unbanned didn't get deleted though.



Good point that I'm quoting in the hope it doesn't get overlooked.

 
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10th January, 2008 at 11:08:00 -


Originally Posted by Ranger Adam
... if they want a community to work they can't keep playing gods and deleting topics because they personally don't like them...



Same goes for members olol

 

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10th January, 2008 at 11:23:13 -


Originally Posted by BROO
Administrator don't have to notify about deleting thread. I don't think it's lame or rude or something else. Actually all the topics focusing on community members instead of something practical may be annoying for administrator.


It's not a matter of rude or lame.
If a topic was deleted it means that the writer has done something wrong. The admins should let him know what was wrong so he won't repeat the same mistake.

 
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10th January, 2008 at 11:46:24 -

OK, if Ranger Adam really doesn't feel that another thread about Phizzy is not anything worth reading then administrators should really tell this.

 
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10th January, 2008 at 11:47:08 -

Uh? That wasn't even about Phizzy... =/
It was about him seeking for peace or something...

 
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10th January, 2008 at 11:59:47 -

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10th January, 2008 at 12:55:03 -

Whya you alaways the swearing, ey? ¬_¬ </mario>

Anyways... To be honest, the admins run the site - they can really do what they want without explanation, whether they should give you an explanation as to why they did or not, they certainly don't have to. You need to respect that really, even though it is unfair, the admins rule the roost in dictatorship here because that's the way it works online :\

I've had it done to me plenty of times at other forums, when requiring help or information on something, my topic has been removed for whatever bizzare reasons they had... though I just posted it again

An admin or two are actually hestitant to make any changes around the site, (which would enhance the site), because one or two members will kick up a fuss about it and effectively feel bullied!!! Ok, so they shouldnt care what one or two members think.. but they dont want the hassle :\ I've posted this before somewhere too not long ago, and I think Shab locked it..

I dunno who deleted it and why, but really we should respect the admins and their decisions and contributions and respect their choices for deleting and moderating the site as a whole, as it wouldn't be here without them... that's just the way it is and how it should be really! That's what I think - Leave 'em alone

 
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10th January, 2008 at 13:09:27 -

No Tim, that's not the way it works. A successful community (like clickteam's forums( works with mutual understanding between the people that run it and the members, it's not a powermad BAN BAN BAN DELETE DELETE DELETE situation.

 
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10th January, 2008 at 13:12:32 -

Community in which there are unbannable people, who also likes to make offtopic, simply is not a community with future. You are not the only one who would complain about having a topic deleted, but would you be happy if there were let's say 10 complain topics from UNKNOWN users? This would be annoying for you and administration as well.

 
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10th January, 2008 at 13:14:06 -

Quite a lot of forums, you'll find, are like that, sadly.

The admins on them get power-hungry and anybody that says anything they don't like gets banned, and topics get locked and deleted.

There are some that are nice, and there are those that are worse than a drunken Nazi in a synagogue.

That's just the way the internet works.

 
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10th January, 2008 at 13:21:34 -

Administrators of TDC makes a very good job. Just think about recent changes:
-> quotes, youtube embedding, or such adorable emoticons like
-> 'projects' section
-> 'polls' section
-> and a lot more you know better

What is more administrators aren't showing off with their powers. Well, we should be actually grateful that they continue to do a very good job and don't try to disturb them .

 
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10th January, 2008 at 13:25:12 -

BROO, no offense dear but you don't even know what topic we're talking about that got deleted.

 
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10th January, 2008 at 13:25:33 -

isn't a new image, is it?

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10th January, 2008 at 13:27:34 -

Also it's the fact that it's the one time I make a thread about making peace on TDC, and it's deleted...

 
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10th January, 2008 at 13:29:30 -


Originally Posted by BROO
Administrators of TDC makes a very good job. Just think about recent changes:
-> quotes, youtube embedding, or such adorable emoticons like
-> 'projects' section
-> 'polls' section
-> and a lot more you know better

What is more administrators aren't showing off with their powers. Well, we should be actually grateful that they continue to do a very good job and don't try to disturb them .


That'd be programmers, not administrators.

 
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10th January, 2008 at 13:32:48 -


Originally Posted by BROO
Administrators of TDC makes a very good job. Just think about recent changes:
-> quotes, youtube embedding, or such adorable emoticons like
-> 'projects' section
-> 'polls' section
-> and a lot more you know better

What is more administrators aren't showing off with their powers. Well, we should be actually grateful that they continue to do a very good job and don't try to disturb them .


... Wasn't that all Clubby's work tho?

 
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Originally Posted by Ranger Adam
No Tim, that's not the way it works. A successful community (like clickteam's forums( works with mutual understanding between the people that run it and the members, it's not a powermad BAN BAN BAN DELETE DELETE DELETE situation.



Actually it's more like a LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK situation. The only two threads I posted there ended up locked without any reason given.

 
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10th January, 2008 at 13:38:46 -

This was actually one of the rarer cases where topics get deleted without reason. They usually get locked first.

 
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10th January, 2008 at 13:39:40 -

Ranger Adam AFAIR this topic was somehow related to "show your hands" or something like that. If it wasn't, then sorry for mistake .

 
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10th January, 2008 at 13:42:06 -

Yay, another "why is my topic or whatever deleted?" That figures.

I think it's more a matter of etiquette for admins to put up reasons for locking/deleting/editing stuff. I find it kinda rude when it happens. Not to mention, some people will get angry if it happens when it seems it's for no reasons.

If the admins would be so nice to put up reasons why they delete stuff, these kind of shitty topics and mails wouldn't even exist. Well not that I think this is shitty (I think this topic is useful ), but more in the perspective from the admins. Post reasons, and you don't get stuff like "What happened to my topic??? Wah wah wah, etc." Not to mention that the next time it happens, the same thing will repeat because they won't learn.
I see a forums that do post reasons for deletion (eg when they delete flames and every response to flames) and I think it's so much nicer because it clears up A LOT.

 
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10th January, 2008 at 13:47:51 -

BROO,No, it wasn't really.

 
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Oh...

 
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Clubsoft could code something that if a topic gets deleted the admin would have to type in the reason why before the topics is deleted, that reason field will then be mailed by the original topic poster. I think that should resolve everything right then and there, to make a rule that a admin should do this wont work in practise they just can't opt not to notify anyone but to force them to do so will

I am known to sometimes delete topics in its entire instead of locking it, i try to dc mail the original poster as much as I can. But again by having a field pop-up before a topic gets deleted and having that filed send to the original poster will once and for all solve this "issue"



 
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12th January, 2008 at 14:25:19 -

It seems that topics get locked or deleted when a warning to the individual offenders would suffice.

That way the rest of the community isn't annoyed that a chunk of website is suddenly gone.

 
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I think the admins have forfotten about that whole 'warning system' -_-

 
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12th January, 2008 at 18:24:55 -

i remember reading that thread. don't remember what it was exactly about but it seemed harmless. i don't see why there is more pointless crap allowed to keep going and something harmless would get deleted. i'm curious as to why it got deleted. whoever deleted it, indulge?

 
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The comic thread is locked.

 
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I am convinced the admin panel has a "lock random topic" function. They press it once a week but it's using the complete database so there's like a 0,3% chance an active thread gets randomly locked.

 
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Originally Posted by Hayo
I am convinced the admin panel has a "lock random topic" function. They press it once a week but it's using the complete database so there's like a 0,3% chance an active thread gets randomly locked.



Uh no but that's not a bad idea, thanks
And regarding the original post - I have some plans to sort it out. Just don't know when I'll get round to coding them.

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Andy is right!

Just because some people don't like Liji's banning habits

 
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See that has ruined a perfectly good topic now.

 
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13th January, 2008 at 09:10:46 -

"Uh no but that's not a bad idea, thanks"

Then it must have been a drunk rage

 
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Originally Posted by Hayo
"Uh no but that's not a bad idea, thanks"

Then it must have been a drunk rage



I don't know - still not sure who deleted the thread.
But if I was in a drunken rage, I'd probably just delete random users and accounts rather than a simple little thread

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13th January, 2008 at 09:35:58 -

Whoever it was, he is even editing YOU now

 
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ROFL!!!!!!!!!111

Edit: Just trying to get to 5000 posts by posting pointless crap!

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LOL!!

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13th January, 2008 at 10:35:47 -

This place is getting gayer every second.

 
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13th January, 2008 at 10:51:27 -

Nothing wrong with that, is there?

 
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13th January, 2008 at 13:15:33 -

Depends on how you look at it. This used to be a nice community about click. Now it's a place full of gay babies and really weird admins. I don't have any problem with it myself.

 
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Hey hey, I've always been weird.

 
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Yes yes, and I love you for it, but I was actually talking about 2002/2003 but then again we had SHADOWCASTER back then who was like mega weird. He would delete topics and then delete all the witnesses.

 
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So when were the good days?

I don't believe there ever was, personally... at least not for more than a week

 
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Yeah I think we had some good days in spring 2003 or something, something magical was going on.

 
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I think it has something to do with low standards. Back then we had games like Shima bros that everybody liked while there's not that much to it, just a fun little game. It was good to know you could do fun little games and be ok. Now you can't get away with fun little stuff and you have to go all complicated to be even noticed, so most people abandon all their shit now because it's too much or get bashed when they still try to release fun little games. So they were good old days because it was simple and because of Shadowcasters GREAT sense of humour.

 
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13th January, 2008 at 14:39:14 -

I made one of my last engines in tribute

 
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13th January, 2008 at 14:44:16 -

Well we can try and hassle ShadowCaster so that he'll come back?
To be honest, what I thought made this community great was the fact that people could make games whether good or bad and they'd receive constructive criticism for them.

I remember when I was a noob and I made crappy games, people would help me out and generally be nice to me.
Now we have people creating fake accounts and insulting each other on the forums, creating random crappy games and applications and not giving the new people constructive criticism. I just generally think the community has gotten full of people with their heads up their butts, who'd rather go around and humiliate or annoy people rather than make games. That's my view anyway. Obviously that's led to people abandoning games, like you said.

 
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13th January, 2008 at 14:53:39 -

Riva Runs will never be abandoned

 
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13th January, 2008 at 15:09:49 -

Liar!

 

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13th January, 2008 at 17:22:22 -


Originally Posted by Flava
Well we can try and hassle ShadowCaster so that he'll come back?
To be honest, what I thought made this community great was the fact that people could make games whether good or bad and they'd receive constructive criticism for them.

I remember when I was a noob and I made crappy games, people would help me out and generally be nice to me.
Now we have people creating fake accounts and insulting each other on the forums, creating random crappy games and applications and not giving the new people constructive criticism. I just generally think the community has gotten full of people with their heads up their butts, who'd rather go around and humiliate or annoy people rather than make games. That's my view anyway. Obviously that's led to people abandoning games, like you said.



I hear you Flav ...

also,

"News just in, RR has been abandoned "

 
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13th January, 2008 at 19:55:11 -

Oh well I'm sure Silvernova will have copied it already anyway

 
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13th January, 2008 at 19:57:39 -

LOL!

 
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13th January, 2008 at 19:59:46 -

It's a shame you feel this way Hayo.

I don't think the community is much different to back in 2002/2003.

Remember the time when there was a huge discussion about bashing new members withouth reason?
we don't have that now do we?

What about millions of shitty demos and engines?
Not so much of that.

Ok it's nice to have more people submitting stuff, but the majority of games were a waste of time for most of us. Good to make but bad to play.

At least higher standards are in place now, and i feel they are down to the people making games rather than due to criticism.

 
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13th January, 2008 at 20:18:46 -

Remember the thread with the mp3 about girls on the internet and stuff?

That was good old TDC

We need Shen/Ashman etc back.

It's just not the same without the old funny makers

 
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13th January, 2008 at 22:19:22 -

Ashman was exactly the kind of person that knew he could get away with more than most. I didn't find him all that funny, yet i realized he was acting up to get a laugh from people.

It's only in hindsight that we see people as funny rather than annoying. Well in my opinion anyway.

The 'any girls at TDC mp3' was awesome though, i found it again a few months ago but it seemed to be missing the part when the creators cracked up and laughed. Unless i'm mistaking that for something from Novabrain's grand adventure.

 
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14th January, 2008 at 06:45:57 -


Originally Posted by Ranger Adam
Oh well I'm sure Silvernova will have copied it already anyway



Funny stuff, but it's only good games that are copied

 
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14th January, 2008 at 12:59:00 -

Who said RR won't be good?

 
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14th January, 2008 at 13:18:22 -

Shut up you two

 
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14th January, 2008 at 13:34:22 -

NO YOU SHUT UP CORONATION STREET IS ON >:| and why are you banned? -_o

 
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14th January, 2008 at 15:26:29 -


Originally Posted by Ranger Adam
NO YOU SHUT UP CORONATION STREET IS ON >:| and why are you banned? -_o



STOP SHOOOOOUUUUUUUUUTIIIIIINNNNNNG!!!!!!

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14th January, 2008 at 23:43:52 -

Tim > Your face.

 
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15th January, 2008 at 00:41:01 -

Don't be mean to my fake account

 
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15th January, 2008 at 06:56:14 -

Geez. Come down Tim, what the hell.

P.S.
RR will never be abandoned. I won't let it happen.

 
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15th January, 2008 at 07:08:31 -

<3

 
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15th January, 2008 at 12:50:07 -

¬_¬

 
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