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9th June, 2007 at 06:49:38 -

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Have you looked at the construct website recently? For those of you who don't know, construct is basically an exact copy of multimedia fusion only with many enhancements such as crazy hardware graphic shader effects and dynamic lighting effects. It is being made by a former clicker who kinda did a Judas on clickteam

But seriously, if clickteam don't get a pretty decent hardware accelerated graphics engine running soon then I think it is likely that they will go under. I mean, I don't condone nicking clickteam's ideas, but if, when I try the construct demo, it is better than MMF2 then I will get it and I will be using it instead of MMF2.

What would anyone do? If given the choice between a superior and an inferior piece of software, you wouldn't choose the inferior software just because you don't like the developers of the superior software. I mean everyone has played DOOM, and John Carmack is a git.

IMO there are four possible outcomes to this situation. Either, clickteam sit on their hands and are wiped off the map when construct is released, or clickteam take note of the serious competetition and design a new graphics engine... which would either be better or worse than construct. The other outcome is that construct has an amazing graphics engine but the coding interface is crap.



 
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9th June, 2007 at 06:58:42 -

I won't be switching. Unless they can open MMF2 game files. I've worked too long on Tormishire to switch out to something else, unless it was really ossum and allowed games to be exported for OSX and Linux.

 
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9th June, 2007 at 07:28:31 -

I have to admit, Construct does look like a very sweet program. I don't think the coding interface for Construct is crap though - although I haven't tried it yet - from a coding perspective, it could be considered to be a better interface. It looks as though it is a really advanced MMF to me. I love Clickteam to bits though - but I still think there is a lot of work to be done on MMF2 if Clickteam want their product to remain competitive.

Not only does Construct "apparently" have a better 'graphics' engine, but you can create functions, use ELSE statements have sub-events and looks like it has a better debug system than MMF. I think these are the little things which would make MMF2 awesome - but it'd also probably complicate it and so beginners might get more confused. I don't know. I'm sure Clickteam will look at it and act upon it though.

But looks like it's going to be one of those Construct Vs MMF2 battles. The community could die!

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9th June, 2007 at 07:29:45 -

MMF hasn't really improved in any significant way since... well, since TGF. Admittedly that's because they got it mostly right the first time, but it still seems like they've been "sitting on their hands" for the longest time and only offering incremental improvements at the cost of a whole new version.

I see Construct as a great thing for everyone, since they have something to prove and they wouldn't be attempting this if they didn't think they could outdo MMF at what it does. I intend to adopt it when it's released, and if CT takes up the challenge to stay competetive, we'll have TWO great apps at our disposal. As always, it's a case of which tool is best for the job at hand.

 
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9th June, 2007 at 07:36:19 -

Yeh agree with you completely - after reading all the information on the Scirra site and forums, there are LOTS of features which I think would make it better than MMF2. Obviously it just depends whether the program itself is stable, has no bugs .etc.

Even if Construct turned out to be the better product, I'd still probably use both Construct and MMF2. But I really do hope Clickteam decide to make MMF2 a lot more powerful. Ooo I can't wait

 
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9th June, 2007 at 08:28:39 -

Its quite odd looking at the construct website, because graphical effects such as refracting water, dynamic lighting etc. that I have put a lot of effort into putting into my game can be added at the drop of a hat using construct it seems, and with no performance drop.

 
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9th June, 2007 at 09:06:47 -

I wont be switching either. For financial (i.e. brought MMF2 last year and i am poor)and time reasons and becuase i like Clickteam. From who is developing it i think the interface maybe odd to say the least, maybe not tho...

I just had to validate my windoze (again) and download the directx web install (with all the extra files) to run the demos!



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9th June, 2007 at 10:10:54 -

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I wonder if Clickteam would initiate a lawsuit? The layout is virtually the same as MMF2.

 
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9th June, 2007 at 10:48:09 -

Actually the layout of MMF and Construct is pretty much standard for software development tools, such as JCreator and Microsoft software (visual basic .etc). So I'm not sure they'd have much of a chance with a lawsuit or anything - I'm not sure though.

 
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9th June, 2007 at 10:54:02 -

I agree with Flava.

Plus I very much doubt CT would bother with a lawsuit, when so many software development programs are very similar to others.

It's very hard for somebody to design something which hasn't already been thought of.

Platformers are a good example of this: they're nearly all the same.

 
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9th June, 2007 at 13:14:12 -

Construct is dead, says reliable source

 
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9th June, 2007 at 13:32:22 -

It better not be, clickteam needs competition.

 
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9th June, 2007 at 14:30:23 -

Reading their forums doesn't sound like it is

 
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9th June, 2007 at 14:36:14 -

Hey, it's back.

 
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9th June, 2007 at 14:57:33 -

Maybe CT can steal ideas from contruct and have some serious competition going on.

 
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