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4th August, 2003 at 13:29:43 -

Well I have made platform games since I started click programming in 1997/1998 and I have always just used the regular platform movement, just fixed a few glitches like the ladder problem when you restart the levels.
This works fine for me, so why are so many people wanting or liking custom platform engines?
Is it just for the challenge or do people not know ways of fixing the bugs with regular platform movement?

 
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4th August, 2003 at 15:33:52 -

my reason to program my own movement was that if you dont, people will hate you.
I think its like never changing your underwear. you get used to it yourself, but other people are gonna avoid you.

and of course, like akira said, you can just do more with a custom movement.

 
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4th August, 2003 at 15:48:03 -

people like custom platform engines:
1. Can do more animations (the spare directions)
2. Gets a better mark for their game
3. Can do special effects better
4. Fixes a lot of problems with TGF platform movement
5. Fix your custom gravity...
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4th August, 2003 at 16:46:26 -

Animate that backdrop ladder please! Make it so you can roll it up so enemies won't climb up it and try to kill you. Can you do that with a standard platform movement?

 
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4th August, 2003 at 17:29:29 -

you can make better games basically

and its more satisfying to make a game almost completely coded on you own instead of having built in platform movement and only 10 events per level.

 
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5th August, 2003 at 01:42:23 -

OK, good advice people. Does anyone know of a good open-source custom platform movement?

 
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5th August, 2003 at 01:45:01 -

If there was a top 10 FAQ on TDC then that would but up there somewhere with "What's an ini." Use the search DC button on the left.

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5th August, 2003 at 01:50:12 -

Oh and you can make it so you can roll up the ladder. You could have it be an active object, and repeat while pressing up = set player position at current minus some on the Y axis. and then you have an invisible block at the top. When you overlap that and press "R" for Roll and the ladder is not already rolled, it plays the ladder roll animation.

 
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5th August, 2003 at 03:38:43 -

Custom engines can do anything but what do you mean by "roll"?

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5th August, 2003 at 09:34:34 -

Probably rolling on the floor (like in Gunner 3). There used to be a really good custom platform movement (I don't know who it was by: Texmo or Hamish, I think), it uses fastloop. However, there are no comments telling you how to actually code it, so I would use Shen's movement and fix it up a bit.

 
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5th August, 2003 at 11:30:14 -

If you have MMF 1.5 then you can download MY engine at www.circy.cjb.net in the Tutorials section.

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5th August, 2003 at 11:54:01 -

Yeah, people think your stupid if you use a custom
engine, that's the only real awnser.

But it's true that you can do more and get rid
of those fletchy bugs, if you create a good one.

 
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6th August, 2003 at 20:35:12 -

That 'Roll' explanation was in reply to Kramy.

"Animate that backdrop ladder please! Make it so you can roll it up so enemies won't climb up it and try to kill you. Can you do that with a standard platform movement?"

 
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6th August, 2003 at 20:40:54 -

Assault Andy: yes I am well aware of the search button. I searched a long time ago for stuff about this and didn't have much luck, I will try again...

By the way: If I just modify the built-in platform movement a lot, will it be considered a custom engine?

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6th August, 2003 at 21:01:25 -

I have made custom engines for a year now, and I am so experienced with it that I can make a custom engine in just 10 minutes, really! A custom engine isn't just about editing the Platform movement! No way! It requires you to code it yourself. Sorry to say this, but if you don't have the guts to make a custom engine entirely from the event editor, then you don't have the guts to become a professional programmer.

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7th August, 2003 at 00:27:58 -

anyway game maker is much better suited for making custom platform movements than gtf/mmf cause it doesnt need any detectors(its possible to make virtual detectors in the code) and it CAN move stuff in decimals of a pixel(ex:0.2) wich will make it possible for you to have a smooth moving object with very low gravity.

 
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7th August, 2003 at 01:53:05 -

Do I have the guts? You make it sound so intense. I have been making click games for a long time. I was just asking a hypothetical question, not trying to achieve the mastery of becoming a professional programer (which I technically already am).

I can make a pong game in 23 minutes.. whoho! Just kidding

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7th August, 2003 at 01:54:39 -

MMF doesn't need any detectors either, and can move decimals of a pixel.

 
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7th August, 2003 at 07:48:06 -

Yeah, and MMF is practically LIMITLESS because of it's expandability through C++. Game maker so far only has 2 extensions. Also, I couldn't make my own Platform movement through Game Maker if I tried. It just seems as they do things the other way around. It's hard work to even get an HUD working, because there's no retrieve expression button! Now doesn't THAT suck?

 
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7th August, 2003 at 09:12:04 -

Shen: Yeah, you could move with decimals, but it can bug up very easily and mess up with the speed of the person (I've tried it before).

 
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7th August, 2003 at 09:14:27 -

well you DONT need an retrive expression button just type the objects name.the variable you want to retrive like: objChar.direction and if you dont know what the variabl's name is then just go to the advanced section in the helpfile and look it up

 
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7th August, 2003 at 09:15:43 -

oh i forgot to add that mmf CANT move in decimals cause it subtracts the coordinate more than it adds.

 
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7th August, 2003 at 12:09:13 -

MMF is pixel based...if it can move in decimal pixels(for example 0.2) then it wouldn't show except every fifth time(when it hits an actual number).

If you edit the standard platform movement so greatly then it's exactly the same as a custom engine, except you're letting the game handle a few events, like accelleration, deaccelleration, gravity, and speed.

If you custom code those you don't need to use the standard platform movement.

P.S. I've been kliking since 2001! My first year was a total flop, everything sucked(but I learned lots). Then in 2002, everything made sense.(starting with a bug-free tic-tac-toe game)
In 2002 I mostly learned how to make an RPG, but never actually finished one. Now, in 2003, I'm making an RPG with that knowledge. It's bug-free so far.

 
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8th August, 2003 at 04:09:39 -

If MMF can't do it now then I bet an extension will make it do it later. MMF is limitless cause of extensions...

 
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