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20th October, 2012 at 20/10/2012 21:30:11 -

I did the Hellcat ages ago. The Liberator and Zero are new though, so hopefully the style looks consistent.
Not quite sure what I'm going to do with them yet - possibly a side-scrolling, turn-based strategy...

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20th October, 2012 at 20/10/2012 23:39:22 -

Really nice!

I'm not qualified to offer any critique but I like what I see! Is this for a new game?

 
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21st October, 2012 at 21/10/2012 02:16:33 -

Thanks
Not sure what I'll do with them (probably nothing). I have a few game ideas that they'd be suitable for, but I haven't really started making anything yet, and to be honest I'm lacking any motivation.
It's a long time since I pixelled anything though, so it's good just to keep my hand in. Just started a matching aircraft carrier, which should take a while...

Sorry for broken link above - update is here:
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21st October, 2012 at 21/10/2012 17:31:26 -

J'adore! Especially the smaller ones.

 
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22nd October, 2012 at 22/10/2012 01:43:20 -

Merci beaucoup
I made another two. It turns out they're really quick and easy to keep knocking out...

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The Helldiver's a bit too big really, but hopefully I can get away with it.
Then I just need Japanese torpedo- and dive-bombers, and maybe a flying boat for each side

 
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22nd October, 2012 at 22/10/2012 08:25:47 -

Je t'aime, B24 Liberator.

Hey, I can spit out some french too!


Can I also suggest imageshack for future picture uploads?

 
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22nd October, 2012 at 22/10/2012 09:03:11 -

Very impressive. I love the old WW2 planes, those are very well made. Haha, if you have any ideas for a game out of this, I might just help work on it.

Please, please no imageshack. All imageshack images break in my country.


 
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22nd October, 2012 at 22/10/2012 09:10:53 -


Originally Posted by Muz

Please, please no imageshack. All imageshack images break in my country.


What country is that?

I was just thinking since the IMGboot picture he already has up in the opening post is down, imageshack might suit better.

I've never really had any problems, myeself with their image hosting.

 
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22nd October, 2012 at 22/10/2012 10:21:51 -

I like to use Photobucket, I find them pretty reliable.

I like the new planes, too! It's always great when you find a style you can really get into and make lots of great looking sprites of a similar style or theme. I also found that I was able to pump out quite a few pixel characters (like my avatar) a few weeks ago. Maybe I'll show them here soon.

 
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22nd October, 2012 at 22/10/2012 18:17:53 -

As promised, the Japanese torpedo- and dive-bombers:
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Imgboot is actually an okay host - for some reason, it just didn't like it when I uploaded an image with the same file name as one that already existed. It's only broken now because I deleted the file.


The easiest game to make would be a side-scrolling shooter, vaguely along the lines of "R-Type" - but I don't really like that kind of game.

A "Sopwith" / "Wings of Fury" clone would be good, but as you may have seen from my post in the klik-coding section, I can't figure out the physics - and plus I'd have to animate the planes rolling, which would be a huge pain.

What I intended to do ages ago when I originally made the Hellcat, was a turn-based strategy like "Critical Mass" or "Over The Reich"...
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TsPukIhbACo/S_aSDdQkbbI/AAAAAAAAADA/q3Vill_5RxE/s1600/Critical+Mass+1.jpg
http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/l/435718-over-the-reich-windows-screenshot-we-jumped-two-2-p-47-s-and.jpg
...except it would be viewed from a side-on perspective, so it would be more tactical because of gravity - you'd have to use "energy fighting" tactics; be able to aim bombs precisely; etc.
The problems are exactly the same as with making a "Sopwith" clone though.

Another alternative would be a cross between that and an "R-Type" clone (kind of like "R-Type: Tactics" but not grid-based). I could have it turn-based, but the planes would always face right, and the screen would always automatically scroll right each turn. Just not sure how deep or fun that would be...

So yeah, anyone have any suggestions?

@Liam: I'd love to see all your little characters - you should post them

 
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22nd October, 2012 at 22/10/2012 23:42:17 -

Really really nice work, good conservative use of the pallette. May I just offer as a small criticism some of the proportions of a couple of the planes; Hellcat and Helldiver look a little too short and fat to actually fly, but again that's just a small criticism. I especially like the Liberator and Betty.

 
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23rd October, 2012 at 23/10/2012 01:32:36 -

You're absolutely right about the proportions, but it's intentional. They're all based on scale drawings, resized to 63% of their original width, so they are much shorter and dumpier than the real thing.

They're supposed to be kind of caricatures (partly inspired by the graphics in "Advance Wars", which I really like - http://playwhatyoulikesrpgreviews.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/advance_wars_sprites_courtesy_the_peoples_sprites_parabot_2.gif ).

The "bumblebee effect" is actually what I love about these big radial-engined warbirds (as opposed to Spitfires/Mustangs/etc) - even in real life, they really do look too heavy to fly.
eg. http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/imgs/grumman-tbf-avenger_2.jpg
eg. http://www.teterboro-online.com/images/news/2004/ww04/ww3a/ww04_120.jpg
eg. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/Grumman_F6F_Hellcat_03.JPG

Plus, it gives you a bit more room to add extra detail

 
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23rd October, 2012 at 23/10/2012 12:30:26 -

Excellent work, and well done on your research mate! And those Advance Wars sprites are fantastic, love the way each of the colour-ways is not simply the same sprite with a different pallette, but actually a slightly different sprite, definitely adds character to each one of the teams.

I had an idea a while ago for a side-scrolling aeroplane game, basically it was just bombing missions, being able to precisely target the bombs taking into account stuff like wind, velocity of the craft, height of the craft - but you could control the escort fighters as well.

The start of the mission would be to fly over to the target, defend your bomber from enemy craft with the fighter planes, release the bombs and then return to base, and you'd get points for each of the objectives reached (ie destroy whichever target, make it back to base, keeping most of your fighters intact). Then the points could be used to repair craft, buy fuel, buy bombs, or possibly even stuff like more accurate equipment. Better equipment and bigger bombs would mean you could do harder missions, and so on.

The screen would be split into two, with a horizontal view which would be more useful for the dogfighting and controlling your height, and a top-down view which would be for aiming the bombs.

 
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23rd October, 2012 at 23/10/2012 23:11:49 -

All the artwork in Advance Wars is awesome (except the Black Hole army). It's not just that the units of different armies all have different sprites - they're all cartoony versions of actual vehicles, with a little artistic license.
The orange army has all American equipment - the bomber is a B52 Stratofortress (with a few engines missing), the fighter is an F15 Eagle, the recon is a hummer, etc. The blue army is all European (with a Vulcan and Mirage III), the yellow army is all Japanese, and the green army seems to be a mixture of Russian, German and American equipment.
The yellow army bomber and fighter are clearly based on the B4M Betty and A6M Zero (although they've given the Betty jet engines), which are two of the planes I've done already:

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Note: The sprite I did was based on a later version of the Betty, with extended nose glazing, bulging bomb bay, etc, which is why it doesn't look quite the same.
(and yes, I'm a bit of an aeroplane geek)

I did see some concept art for a sequel, which was absolutely amazing, but I can't find it again now


That game idea sounds good, but I think the dogfighting element would be more fun than the bombing part. Whichever concept I go with, escorting bombers is certainly going to be a part of it.
I'd quite like to make a lot more aircraft, and then have a historically accurate campaign mode where you play missions throughout the war, starting with old models of aircraft, and then upgrading as new models became operational - that's what "Over the Reich" does.
eg. If you're playing as the USA, you'd start with P-40 Warhawks which were no match for the Japanese Zeros, but by the end of the campaign you'd be flying Hellcats and Corsairs (and your pilots would have gained experience too, if you kept them alive long enough).

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2nd November, 2012 at 02/11/2012 12:15:03 -

Outstanding work. I really hope you do make a game with these somehow. You ever play Area 88?

 
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