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So, my friend has a 32 GB First Generation iPod Touch for sale for $175. Is this a good buy?, cause I was thinking about getting it. I don't really know what else to say.

 
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Well that's a little over half of the price of a new 32GB. It's better than anything you'll get on ebay but I'd at least wing a lowball. Say "since it is 1st gen and all..."

 

  		
  		

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Tried it. He insists on the price. Wants to make it $180 to include the wall charger.

 
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Comes down to whether you need 32GB of space or a newer generation.

 

  		
  		

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get the newest latest and greatest. fastest processor external sound etc etc.

 
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I'm still not too sure what's so amazing about the Touch. Most of the features require Wifi and the only place besides maybe Subway that have Wifi is my house and we have 3 computers. If you need a lot of space, buy a Zune 120, if you want something cheap, but an expensive retail MP3 player.

 
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The touch is better than the Zune in my opinion (I have tried them both).
Zune is great for music, but that's pretty much it really. Most of the apps on the iTunes store work with the touch, and it is also a great music player. The selling point for me was the games and apps, which I haven't stopped downloading since I bought my touch. And although you might need a WiFi connection for a lot of stuff, many places like pubs, clubs and shops now have WiFi (at least where I live).

It just depends whether you want a 1st generation iPod Touch - I'm not sure on the differences between the 2nd gen one, but I'm guessing speed is a factor. Other than that, it's a really good deal.

 
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The selling point for me was the games and apps



Yep. That's why I convinced my brother to buy one. It's really entertaining to just browse the app store every other day to see what stuff comes out. The fact that it can play music? Pff, just a bonus. I seem to recall some apps saying they needed the 2nd generation touch to work, but I might be imagining things.

Also, as for the wifi... you don't need wifi to use it as an ipod. And there are a ton of apps you can use without wifi. That's just looking for excuses to not like it.

 

  		
  		

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I guess it also comes down to where you want to spend your money and how you want to use the device.

I personally don't have too many places around here that I visit that have Wifi besides my own house, and I also hate the idea of spending a ton of money on music. $15 a month gets me unlimited music downloads, which for some might not seem like a good deal, but I'm always downloading a ton of new music and before the end of the month, I can choose 10 of the songs to keep DRM-Free. So I much rather own a Zune.

 
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I'm still not too sure what's so amazing about the Touch. Most of the features require Wifi and the only place besides maybe Subway that have Wifi is my house and we have 3 computers. If you need a lot of space, buy a Zune 120, if you want something cheap, but an expensive retail MP3 player.



Your second sentence answered the first sentence. If you don't have any reason (or even ability) to access the new features then of course you're not going to see what's good about it.

 
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Originally Posted by Jon Lambert
So, my friend has a 32 GB First Generation iPod Touch for sale for $175. Is this a good buy?, cause I was thinking about getting it. I don't really know what else to say.



It's a lot of money for a 32Gb mp3 player. But if you use it to its potential then it can easily be one of the best electronic things you could spend that $175 on.

Think, realistically, about how you'll use it every day. I bought the iPod Touch to use at work (presentations), Skype, for the convenience of checking e-mail quickly in the house and for the apps. Basically, a lot of its functions I use in the same way I would use a laptop. If you'll only use it as an mp3 player then don't buy it.

The fact that it's only 1st generation is something you should look into for sure. I think Apple made some pretty big improvements since then. If memory serves me correctly, there's no volume control on the side of the 1st gen iPod Touch. Most importantly, I think they also they beefed up the wifi speed from "painfully slow" to "very usable".

 
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The iTouch is a PDA that plays music. I've got a 2nd gen, and I use the thing all the time. Quick bouts of gaming, looking stuff up without dragging the laptop out, texting with friends, and watching video. You do lose a lot of functionality without the wifi, but even in my little town in northern Colorado I can leech off the tons of wireless networks while I'm out and about.

There's probably a lot more wireless networks around you than you think Brandon, I was shocked at how many unsecured networks were all around my town. (iTouch makes it easy to check for networks while on a walk or such similar.)

 
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You could always just get an iphone then wifi won't be an issue.
Now that I have one I just can't live without it!

 
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All right so I talked to my dad to get permission to use my money and he didn't like the idea of buying it used. However, he did give me the option of buying whatever else. So I'm thinking of a multitude of possibilities: a Nintendo DSi, PSP Go, iPod Touch, or Zune HD. Of course I'm open to suggestions.

Considering priorities, I usually just play games. I don't have a wireless internet connection, but there's a school, a grocery store, and a laundromat nearby with internet, as well as my neighbor who's internet connection seems to be selective. I like music as long as I don't have to pay a bunch 'cause I don't have much money to begin with (need to go to college next year, you know). Anyways, yeah.

EDIT: I have a 2GB SD card for that DSi as well. I already have a cell phone.

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It doesn't sound like you're going to use the iPod Touch's PDA-features a lot. My suggestion would be to get a cheap mp3 player (perhaps one that takes SD cards) and a DS lite (DSi if you can afford it, but phatty/lite will do)

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If you don't have a DS yet, then definitely go for it. I like the touch but the DS is much better for gaming.

 

  		
  		

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I have a Sony Walkman.

 
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I was thinking that I could get a DSi and give my old DS to my brother so we can multiplay together. Anyways, I would probably type if I could cause I often have assignments to do and, lacking a laptop, some way to do that anywhere would be nice. I just realized how unaware I am of the iPod Touch's features! I should research.

 
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What do you want to know? I use my way too much. Have to charge it 2 times a day sometimes.

For me, I play alot more games on my touch than on my DS/psp. My DS hasn't been used in months. My Psp gets really, really light use.

 
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What does an iPod do before you download apps and what useful apps are there besides games?

 
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Before you download apps you can browse the internet, take notes, maintain a contact list, use email (gmail, yahoo, etc), check the weather, watch video, play music, take voice memo's (2g only), and youtube.

There are thousands of apps besides games. Twitter clients, streaming video, streaming music, read comics, google earth, SMS text, check planets position in the night sky. Most of these apps are free. Browsing the app store from iTunes is a good way to check out some of the apps. Paid apps sporadically go free for a day or two, (twitter is a good way to find out about these). You can alos download these apps directly from your touch.

 
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take voice memo's (2g only)



Either we got the 1st gen or you're talking about the next generation, because ours doesn't have a mic built in... I thought we had the 2nd gen but perhaps not. If we do have the 1st gen, then it won't hurt for you to buy that one because I haven't suffered from it.

 

  		
  		

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It doesn't have one built in, but it does support mics plugged into the headphone jack.

 
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The new 3rd gen Ipod touch comes with headphones that include an inbuilt mic...

But if you're going for 1st or 2nd gen you'd have to buy an external mic to record voice memos.

 
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It costs $150 now, but my parents don't like the idea of me buying an old device with no warranty.

EDIT: The original $175 Craigslist post: http://lincoln.craigslist.org/ele/1371428569.html

And the new $150 post: http://lincoln.craigslist.org/ele/1371569670.html

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Would they rather you buy a new one with a warranty twice as expensive? Having it repaired would probably still be cheaper than buying a new one!

Also, you know you want to buy a mic and use skype/ocarina.

 

  		
  		

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Like I said, my favorite thing about the Zune besides the fact that I like how it looks and feels better (which is entirely opinionated), is the $15/m unlimited music subscription. New music is always coming out, and if you think about how much music you'd be buying a month just to get all the new stuff that you like and want to listen to, it's well over $15.
You get to keep 10 songs DRM-Free, which means you're really just paying $5 a month for unlimited music that you can't keep if you stop paying, and the other $10 goes to the 10 "free" songs.

In other words:

If you listen to A LOT of music very often and don't want to pay a dollar for each song or illegally download it, Zune is the best choice.

If you want a PDA that plays music, and know you'll often be in Wifi hotspots, iPod Touch is the best choice.

If you want an MP3 player that just works, no special features, no special plans, go with anything non-Microsoft, non-Apple, because you'll save a fortune.


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Originally Posted by SILVERFIRE
Like I said, my favorite thing about the Zune besides the fact that I like how it looks and feels better (which is entirely opinionated), is the $15/m unlimited music subscription. New music is always coming out, and if you think about how much music you'd be buying a month just to get all the new stuff that you like and want to listen to, it's well over $15.
You get to keep 10 songs DRM-Free, which means you're really just paying $5 a month for unlimited music that you can't keep if you stop paying, and the other $10 goes to the 10 "free" songs.

In other words:

If you listen to A LOT of music very often and don't want to pay a dollar for each song or illegally download it, Zune is the best choice.

If you want a PDA that plays music, and know you'll often be in Wifi hotspots, iPod Touch is the best choice.

If you want an MP3 player that just works, no special features, no special plans, go with anything non-Microsoft, non-Apple, because you'll save a fortune.


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how is buying a song for a dollar any different than buying a cd? i like to own my music. and i dont understand what the hell anyone complains about drm for. the only people who it really affects are pirates. and quite honestly, fuck pirates.

im all for microsoft products over apple but honestly the zune was a peice of shit. how the zunehd will stack up is another story.

and about your "you need wifi for most of the features to work" for the touch. you mean the features that zune doesnt even have? i have wifi at my work and at my home. my school had wifi. my library has wifi. starbucks has wifi. most places anywhere have wifi now. unless you live out in the boonies somewhere, in which case maybe you should just move?

 
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http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Microsoft-to-Zap-Sony-DRM-Rootkit/

Thanks Sony. I don't mind DRM but sometimes it's just arrogance.

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I ended up not buying the used one. It got sold for $150 to someone else.

Hmm... I wonder if I even want to spend the money?

 
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Originally Posted by cEcil = MC^2
how is buying a song for a dollar any different than buying a cd? i like to own my music. and i dont understand what the hell anyone complains about drm for. the only people who it really affects are pirates. and quite honestly, fuck pirates.



Did you even READ my post, at all? Seriously?

"Like I said, my favorite thing about the Zune besides the fact that I like how it looks and feels better (which is entirely opinionated), is the $15/m unlimited music subscription. New music is always coming out, and if you think about how much music you'd be buying a month just to get all the new stuff that you like and want to listen to, it's well over $15.

You get to keep 10 songs DRM-Free, which means you're really just paying $5 a month for unlimited music that you can't keep if you stop paying, and the other $10 goes to the 10 "free" songs."


I said NOTHING about CD's. Read the whole post before you attack it.

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Jon, I say just save your money if you're not set on buying anything at the moment. Who knows you could come across some more money in the future and be able to buy something even better

 
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Originally Posted by -J-
The new 3rd gen Ipod touch comes with headphones that include an inbuilt mic...

But if you're going for 1st or 2nd gen you'd have to buy an external mic to record voice memos.



I think that's only the 32 and 64GB versions (They got the processor upgrade as well). Pretty sure the 8GB "3g" is just the same as the 8gb 2g.

 
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I have quite a bit of money, granted, some of it has to go to college for next year, but I can spend some on myself. I plan on not buying a laptop just yet because those things become obsolete too quickly.

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Just yet? When are computers ever going to stop being obsolete immediately after they're released? Bite the bullet and buy one, I'm glad I did.

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I'd like it to be just a little less obsolete than it will be at this moment. Maybe for Christmas. Having MMF2 wherever I go would be one of the greatest things ever.

If I don't get any scholarships (which I do plan on getting) then I will have to pay for college all by myself.

 
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If you check out CL you can usually get a decent laptop (non dual core) for about $100. Just takes some patience. That's where most of my laptops have come from (except the one I currently use, it was a dead unit from my job which I fixed).

 
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