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A couple of weeks ago i got an ibook off of eBay for $301.15. Not the greatest ibook but an ibook none the less. My reason for buying this ibook was so i could code for the iphone. A developing field were you can make a lot of money .

So i got it, but oh wait, it came with panther when the description listed tiger (maybe a reprieve for me) so i forked over another $80 (again eBay) to buy leopard, thinking I'll make this up in a couple of weeks.

Then i try to install the SDK and it didn't install any of the i-phone developing stuff.

So i go to the apple site and read the fine print. Apparently one has to have an intel based mac. Mine wasn't, i had a powerpc G4. So now I'm thinking why would apple be dum enough to not support its older products that indie developers, who legally cant have a job yet, have enough cash to buy...
So i read articles about it and figured out their was a way to do it, but it wouldnt compile into an iphone application. So now i have a crappy mac that can't do anything I want it to do.


Hopefully, Hopefully, i will be able to get ebay or just the guy who sold it to me to refund me because the mac was not as described in the description. Then ill be sure to buy a cheap mac with an intel based processor.

Or i need $500-1,000 to buy a mac with an intel processor (donations gladly accepted )

End of rant

And i know i am really pretty poor. I would have gladly bought a brand new macbook, but without a job it is kinda hard to work up 1,000 dollars.

 
Originally Posted by RickyG
Sure just like you can steal tic tacs from a 7-11. No one will catch you, except for God.

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7th March, 2009 at 00:13:00 -

First: Indie game makers are not necessarily minors.

Second, supporting powerpc architecture now that the transition to intel has been made would be stupid and a waste of money. Especially considering we're talking about APPLE, the king of dropping support for old products.

Third, is it not as described? How was the ebay guy supposed to know? You will not be able to return it unless the seller told you explicitly that you could make iPhone apps with it.

Make sure you read the fine print FIRST.

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It wasnt as described he said that it had tiger, but when it came, it had panther.

Heres the ad
http://cgi.ebay.com/Mac-Ibook-G4-1-07-GHZ-With-EXTRAS_W0QQitemZ250374225679QQcmdZViewItemQQptZApple_Laptops?hash=item250374225679&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

Im going to say that having panther caused many software issues that wouldnt have been apparent if Tiger had been installed. This is actually true i coudlnt install the latest versions of safari, Itunes, and Flash player, and some games i wanted to install.

 
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7th March, 2009 at 00:26:19 -

Well, I wish you luck. I never got my money back once when I complained that something I bought was fraudulent, which blows the OS claim out of the water.

You have Tiger now, so in the grand scheme of things, that's a nil claim. It's not the ebay dude's fault. Maybe he's a nice understanding dude, but I doubt it.

Do you even have experience coding outside of MMF2? O_o Seems you should know how to use Obective-C at least before investing money in something like this...

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7th March, 2009 at 00:31:25 -

Hmm... I can't help you there. But, Burger King hires people as young as 14 as long as it isn't against state law.

As OldManClayton said, it's a waste of money to support older technologies, and considering that this is a mixed economy (mostly free-market) here in the U.S., it only makes sense that any business would want to make as much money as possible. In addition, it shouldn't be expected that a company would support something as old as this, and not to sound rude or mean or anything, but it might have been helpful to read the requirements before you bought the computer.

I wish I had a laptop.

 
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Save! That's what I did. It was well worth the long.... long... long wait.

 

  		
  		

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7th March, 2009 at 00:51:43 -

Heh, should have done some researching! iBooks are hella old now. The PPC architecture was phased out of Macs years back too. You could always get a cheap last gen Macbook or Mac Mini, on eBay here they're about 300, about half the price of a new one. Personally I don't think you'll get your money back just because it came with a different OS.
Also if you're a student you can get discounts via the Apple website.

I gotta say though the new Macbooks are bootiful things. I got one back when the new ones launched and it's an amazing machine for such a thin 13" design.

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I was actually going to recommend a mac mini... I don't have one and am not personally an apple fan, but they're half the price of mac laptops and are great little all-purpose machines.

 

  		
  		

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They have the same spec as the Macbook, you just need your own display, keyboard and mouse. Thinking that if my iMac ever conks out (never had a PC or Mac actually break on me yet ) then I'll replace it with a Mac Mini since it'll be mostly used as an iTunes and file server.

 
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i would recommend getting as far away from mac development as possible. if you want to develop ON the mac fine. just dont develop for apple. and no, its been discussed round n round about the money you make on developing iphone apps, and unless for some reason your app gets noticed out of the tons of shite submitted you are hardly going to even make up for buying that computer you bought JUST to develop for it.

and why would you think indie developers are minors? most of us here HAVE jobs, and develop in our free time, some of us for money. if anything the majority of indie developers ARE old enough to have jobs and probably DO.

 
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sorry about the comment about indie developers i wasnt thinking to straight

 
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7th March, 2009 at 01:23:01 -


Originally Posted by Cecil
i would recommend getting as far away from mac development as possible.



Oh I don't know about that.
http://blog.wolfire.com/2008/12/why-you-should-support-mac-os-x-and-linux/

 
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7th March, 2009 at 01:30:20 -

lol hogwash. I think he was talking about Apple policy anyway.

 

  		
  		

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7th March, 2009 at 01:31:03 -

Oh and @ OMC
I know a couple of coding languages

I know basic aspects of
C++
batch
At one time i learned actionscript
and Visual basic

So objective C shouldn't be to difficult.


 
Originally Posted by RickyG
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Originally Posted by falkon
Oh and @ OMC
I know a couple of coding languages

I know basic aspects of
C++
batch
At one time i learned actionscript
and Visual basic

So objective C shouldn't be to difficult.



Awesome.

On a side note-- if you do get a mac mini, remember that the first generation had a G4 CPU. So don't just buy the cheapest one.

 

  		
  		
   

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