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21st July, 2008 at 05:00:03 -

When people make a thread like this it's usually a way of screaming: "HEY! I feel like I've just gotten treated like CRAP! Does anyone on this site even care anymore?!?!?"

When a person makes a goodbye post, it's usually a sign that the person DOES still care, but just feels like the "relationship" with the community has been hurt by something, or in this case many things. People don't actually LEAVE the community until they reach a point where they don't need to make a "goodbye" post anymore. Goodbye threads are like little breakups leading to the big breakup, and the big breakup happens without incident, without drama, without a thread announcing it.

LIJI, I agree with some of your points. But you probably don't need (or want) to leave the community completely, but maybe you should change the way you look at it. If things at the DC are really bothering you, maybe it's just time to step back and get a fresh outlook on things. It's actually probably a sign that it's time for the DC to be a much smaller part of your life. I check the DC now maybe once or twice a day. I used to check it all day long. Sometimes people just slowly grow out of things.

Or I might just be blowing smoke.

 
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21st July, 2008 at 09:09:46 -


Originally Posted by LIJI
So I'm following the trend and I'm leaving TDC.



Huh? The trend that has so far only been set by 1 person? I didn't know 1 person contributed as a trend (we're talking about the good ol Noodle).

But Liji - talking about respect for other members, why do get into such a huff when someone mentions IE or whatever?

Ah I dunno. Everyone has an angry little byebye speech and then comes back again. It's a little too predictable really.

 
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21st July, 2008 at 17:39:48 -


Originally Posted by Random Cecil
"The increasing support of Scirra in TDC. Personally, as someone who knows the truth behind everything in this case (And those who don't believe me, bite me), I can not stand the increasing support of an illegal, dirty product like Construct over TDC, both administative and member-wise. Considering Construct as Click or a Click Product is even offensive."

i have still yet to see you even remotely come close to showing any kind of rational argument or considerable evidence of this being the slightest bit true. so consider yourself bitten.



It was something about Ashley breaking the NDA he was bound to as a betatester for Clickteam. But I agree that LIJI can be a bit overzealous about Scirra and Construct, although some of the things he did amused me quite a bit. (not the forum drama, but things outside TDC)



 
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21st July, 2008 at 17:51:46 -

Well Kids do have a slightly more black and white view on the world. If Liji decided that whatever activities Scirra have done is wrong then the whole concept of construct is tainted.

The fact that the rest of us haven't condemned them in the same way as he has means we actually support them. (in his mind) There is no grey area here. If we use construct we are promoting illegal activities.

 
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21st July, 2008 at 19:00:06 -

Let Me get this straight, did you post this so that people would beg u to stay, or did u post this cause u got a warning or one of ur "great programs" didn't get posted for the homepage or what!

Look, you have posted some enteresting things on here, but no one is going to beg u to stay.

 
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21st July, 2008 at 19:59:50 -

LIJI: Active - 2 Minutes and 36 seconds ago.

PHIZZY: 138 hours (approximately over a week)



You'll both be back TDC is too addictive! Frustrations aside in regards to arguments and Scirra, you are one talented guy. It would be a shame to lose you. But if you really feel strongly about TDC at the moment, resist the urge to pop back every couple of minutes

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21st July, 2008 at 20:05:31 -


Originally Posted by Chris Street
LIJI: Active - 2 Minutes and 36 seconds ago.

PHIZZY: 138 hours (approximately over a week)



You'll both be back TDC is too addictive! Frustrations aside in regards to arguments and Scirra, you are one talented guy. It would be a shame to lose you. But if you really feel strongly about TDC at the moment, resist the urge to pop back every couple of minutes

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If you come, I will see you LIJI. >_> <_<

 
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21st July, 2008 at 20:15:22 -

K Bye Bunny

Nough said

 
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21st July, 2008 at 20:17:38 -

I'm making this final post to make things clear.

1) Adam, I called him retarded purely because his post "lol microsoft are awesome " in a quite serious topic.
2) Codemonkey, no, I do not hate TDC. I hate the way it's handled.
3) Rikus, I'll still keep visiting TDC once in a while, as it is a mainstream website in the click community. I won't be an active member though.
4) "oh so you want admins like on acoders where they ban YOU for being personally attacked by one of THEIR members? or some sites where you get banned for seemingly NO reason? theyre just fair. i'll take tdc admins over any others any day. " - That's not what I meant. I meant that the administration should be a little harsher than 4chan's /b/.
5) "sorry pal but i agree with adam on this one. attitude and personality before produce. if someone found the cure for cancer but beleived eating babies was okay, would they have your respect?" Again, I'm not talking about attitude and personality but opinions. And you can't compare hating Microsoft to thinking eating babies is OK.
6) For all members wondering, I didn't not make this topic to make people sorry and show how bad was I treated, but to help the members and the admins see where were they wrong and maybe in a year or two TDC will be different.
7) Shroomlock, I disagree with you. Leaving the community all of the sudden without saying anything will just feel wrong, as some of the members haven't done anything wrong.
To clear it up, I'm not leaving the click community or stop clicking. I only leave this very specific community site.
9) James, Noodle is not the only member left. See DavidN, Phizzy, Pete and other many members. Some of them made a "trendy" goodbye post like this. And anyway, this line was humorous so people won't take it so hard.
10) Andy, what if Construct was Marijuana? It's roughly comparable, and then your post would make no sense. If you use marijuana you do in fact support illegal activities. If you pirate software, you do in fact supprot illegal activities. Same goes to using Construct.
11) Xavi, you're talking complete crap, seriously. My programs are popular enough without TDC, and I haven't submitted one lately anyway.
12) Adam and Xavi, I did recently receive a temporary warning lately, but I made sure the admin will know that it is not his fault that I'm leaving and I've made this decision before the warning.

If anyway wants to contact me, I'm available at Clickteam's forums, Gwerdy Chat, AIM (LIJI2004), GTalk (LIJI32@gmail.com) and MSN (LIJI@hotmail.co.il).

Again, this is my final post. Do not post anything if you want me to reply to it, or anything argumentative because I won't reply.

And once again,
Goodbye everyone.

 
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21st July, 2008 at 21:55:03 -

It's unfortunate that really theres little anything anyone can do about TDC because as long as their are rules that don't tie the website down to a dictatorship that no one wants to be apart of, you'll always have immature people seeking to ride the fine line of what's right and wrong, which always sparks debates and arguments, which split the community up.

It's kind of sad to think that such a small site is suffering from the same exact problem that the whole world is, but yet much larger websites are capable of sustaining themselves without being as strict.

 
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21st July, 2008 at 22:18:58 -

BrandonC, didn't you post a goodbye topic not too long ago? Farewell, LIJI! I'd say see ya on Gwerdy, but I don't go there anymore.

 

  		
  		

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21st July, 2008 at 22:40:11 -


Originally Posted by OldManClayton
BrandonC, didn't you post a goodbye topic not too long ago? Farewell, LIJI! I'd say see ya on Gwerdy, but I don't go there anymore.



I did, but a few people made some really good points as to what I was doing to contribute to how I was treated. I still think Adams a tard, but I'm willing to change my attitude and see how it effects the site. So far my results are pretty positive, so I've decided to stay for now.


Edit: That and this place is unfortunately a bit unnaturally addictive as Rikus clearly pointed out.

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21st July, 2008 at 22:42:19 -

LIJI 3 minutes and 0 seconds ago Default 77.125.18.*

GOTCHA!

 
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21st July, 2008 at 22:43:46 -


Originally Posted by -Codemonkey-
LIJI 3 minutes and 0 seconds ago Default 77.125.18.*

GOTCHA!



Codemonkey... how long were you sitting there hitting the active users button before you found him?

 
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21st July, 2008 at 22:44:10 -


Originally Posted by LIJI

9) James, Noodle is not the only member left. See DavidN, Phizzy, Pete and other many members. Some of them made a "trendy" goodbye post like this. And anyway, this line was humorous so people won't take it so hard.



DavidN has a proper life now so that's okay, Pete was an ex-admin. I wouldn't come back here after giving up admin-ship. It'd be like being a copper in prison and Phizzy didn't leave, check the E3 Megaton thread.

And didn't David and Pete leave quite a long time ago?

 
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