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17th January, 2008 at 20:04:22 -

Yea, a failure. But still it doesn't mean you don't like the games. Hell I'd put Metroid Prime and Smash Bros Melee above any other games last gen, didn't stop me owning other systems too...

 
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17th January, 2008 at 20:12:46 -

Why is America the only relevant market? It's doing a lot better everywhere else, and I wouldn't even say it's doing *badly* in America. :-\

 
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17th January, 2008 at 20:15:07 -

Failure? It lasted up until the Wii was released...
And in overall sales I'm fairly sure it was about on par with the Xbox

Oh i guess you meant the Ps3...

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17th January, 2008 at 20:21:27 -

I have a blu-ray player (due to owning a PS3). I don't own any BD movies, and I don't really care. I also have a 50" HDTV...so yeah, Downloading is the new media. I can download and stream a DVD-9 no problem (if that service became available, internet isn't getting any slower). I have a 15mbps connection.

 
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17th January, 2008 at 20:23:35 -

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17th January, 2008 at 20:28:46 -

Well, flop might be a strong / disproportionate word here. But I see PS3 going essentially along the lines of the 'cube; it won't be the dominant system this generation. And considering its pretty much the sole backer of the Blu-Ray right now, thats a serious hit to the industry. Without a solid lead player/console to prop up the sales, and the with the fact that confidence in the PS3 itself is ALREADY gone, consumer confidence means that BR will have a giant hurdle into its growth, one that probably won't be bypassed until its already obsolete. So yeah, even if HDDVD goes bust, I don't imagine many people will buy blu-ray players.

And I'm not saying the PS3 is bad, just that its not selling well :/ I'd put eternal darkness on my GC gem list, though, too

 
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18th January, 2008 at 04:01:01 -


Originally Posted by Pixelthief
Well, flop might be a strong / disproportionate word here. But I see PS3 going essentially along the lines of the 'cube; it won't be the dominant system this generation. And considering its pretty much the sole backer of the Blu-Ray right now, thats a serious hit to the industry. Without a solid lead player/console to prop up the sales, and the with the fact that confidence in the PS3 itself is ALREADY gone, consumer confidence means that BR will have a giant hurdle into its growth, one that probably won't be bypassed until its already obsolete. So yeah, even if HDDVD goes bust, I don't imagine many people will buy blu-ray players.

And I'm not saying the PS3 is bad, just that its not selling well :/ I'd put eternal darkness on my GC gem list, though, too



The PS3 wasn't selling well - but if you look at the sales now they've greatly improved, and if you visit websites like 1up, gamespot and gametrailers then it's clear to see that confidence in the PS3 has actually improved greatly. And if you line up the PS3s sales with the 360 (and align the launch dates), they're practically the same.

At the end of the day both the PS3 and 360 have "failed" because of the fact that the Wii has totally dominated with sales. But I have no doubt that Microsoft and Sony won't consider it a failure as they both have their own specific goals and targets.

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18th January, 2008 at 06:06:25 -

They've all failed.

360: RROD
PS3: Pricetag
Wii: Few good games

 
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18th January, 2008 at 07:04:33 -

Sorta. For a long time Oblivion was the only 90+ rated 360 game.
The Wii launched with TP and that gathered higher ratings. Then Galaxy came out Ocarina of Time-like ratings.

But yea in the whole top 10 of Metacritic it has 2 Wii games (near the top), 6 360 games all over the place and 2 PS3 games (near the bottom). And both the Wii and PS3 have only been out 1 year too so it's probably understandable.

 
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18th January, 2008 at 09:47:43 -

The 360, PS3 and Wii all have their exclusives. But the 360 and PS3 shares a lot of games, Call of Duty 4 and Orange Box for example. Meanwhile the Wii gets crappy PS2 ports with motion control added in to compensate.

Don't get me wrong, Super Mario Galaxy is great, but except for first party titles the Wii library is full of crap. I suppose Wii gamers aren't picky

 
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18th January, 2008 at 10:05:05 -

There are not enough good games on ANY of these systems to warrant me getting one.

By that I mean games I enjoy.

And those games are pretty much only RPG games.

The PSX had a lot of good games, and I'm only just now discovering some of them.

The Snes had a few decent games (FF series, Secret Of mana and it's sequal, Terranigma, Secret of evermore, Chrono trigger etc... there are a LOT of games on here that shouldn't be forgotten)

Sadly, the GC only had a few I liked (Tales Of Symphonia and SKies of Arcadia) - these are the only reason i regret selling it. And I had about 40 games for it.

It seems now that companies are more concerned about spewing out so many games a year, each with a ridiculous price tag, rather than putting together a game that is decent in both gameplay and graphics.

 
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18th January, 2008 at 11:47:48 -

Probably because of sky high development costs. Thats also why most companies will probably make less exclusives in the future.

The Gamecube had a great selection of exclusive games, but probably less than the Nintendo 64 did.

 
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18th January, 2008 at 11:49:36 -

Anyone seen the No More Heroes game for the Wii? Maybe that'll turn out great!

 
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18th January, 2008 at 11:52:24 -

Yeah the Gamecube was supposedly easy to develop for, and the N64 even moreso. And both those consoles were marked by tons of blockbuster, high quality games. I have a Wii and theres only really 3-4 games on it worth playing; Mario, SSB, Metroid, and Zelda. The rest is all shovelware that gets dumped on the system because developers aren't taking it seriously. If the Wii started getting games like oblivion, this would already be over. But as long as someone tries to force us to buy "Zack and Wiki's Quest" or "Elebits", nintendo won't clinch their victory.

 
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