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30th November, 2007 at 05:41:39 -

I don't know why but I'm thinking about getting one of these again.

But I want to play homebrew AND the latest commercial games? I don't care for illegally playing all the latest games since I'm not scum. What's all this hullabalooza about an M33 firmware? I've done a bit of research and it sounds like it's what I'm after. Can play commercial games, homebrew (Cave Story) and PS1 games right from the menu with no other silly apps running.

I just want a nice simple method of getting the above things to work. POSSIBLE? Because I'll order one off eBay as soon as.

 
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30th November, 2007 at 05:55:36 -

It's slightly tricky to install the stuff, but yes, you can have all that stuff running straight from the XMB. You'd need to buy a PSP with firmware 1.5, or a firmware easily downgradable to 1.5.
Then you'd need to install CFW 3.52 M33, upgrade that to 3.52 M33-4, then upgrade that to 3.71 M33, upgrade that to 3.71 M33-3, and install the kernel for 1.5 homebrew. Everything would just run then but it'll take a fair amount of work seeing as you're not just keeping up with the regular updates...

You could potentially buy a PSP Slim but I think you need a fat PSP to get that homebrew-enabled. Also, I don't think they've got a display driver for it yet to make it run 1.5 homebrew. Newer homebrew stuff would work though, like Cave Story.

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You should listen to pHixxy he knows everything!

 
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30th November, 2007 at 08:03:57 -

I think I can skip all that stuff out, you can buy M33 3.72 Slim PSP's off eBay. I'm hoping I just buy that, a few games and can then run around playing my fave PS1 games on the go.

 
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30th November, 2007 at 08:47:53 -

There's no 3.72 M33. If it's 3.72 HX then don't get it.

 

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30th November, 2007 at 10:57:06 -

My mistake, they're 3.72.

I'm hearing that this with the 1.50 "addon" will do everything ever, like a little Tardis. I'll probably order one tonight. Next up... which colour!

 
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30th November, 2007 at 11:16:07 -

Well it's rather tricky because the newer motherboards are designed to brick the psp if you try to install non official firmware or downgrade.
I had to buy a copy of gta liberty city stories to downgrade mine. (unpatched)

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30th November, 2007 at 11:27:08 -

I literally only use my PSP for LocoRoco and to watch the royale family

 
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30th November, 2007 at 11:31:25 -


Originally Posted by Dr. Jamesa Claus
My mistake, they're 3.72.



WTF I made the same mistake again. I give up. I'll just be in the future.

 
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30th November, 2007 at 11:34:08 -

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SONY-PSP-BLACK-SLIM-LITE-3-71-M33-4GB-
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Is the sort of thing I should get? I don't want to deal with all that f/w stuff just incase I break it.

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30th November, 2007 at 11:47:23 -

That's *SORT OF* what you should be looking for, only that's a slim PSP. The 1.50 kernel is blocked through hardware which means no support for homebrew designed for 1.50. If you buy a fat PSP with 1.50 firmware it's virtually impossible to brick it with the custom firmware updates.
If you're too lazy to do all the firmware updates, then look for a 3.71 M33-3 PSP, but make sure it's a big fat one (PSP-1000).

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30th November, 2007 at 11:54:18 -

Oh bugger. Buuuut what isn't supported on the new f/w? Is there a site that keeps track of them. I only need a few homebrew apps.

Then again a fat PSP would be cheaper. edit- or not! £100 for fat, £120 for slim without 1.5 support. Fat it is.

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30th November, 2007 at 12:18:20 -

... May I add something to the discussion?

What exactly is a PSP capeable of? Emulation? If so what can it emulate and how well can it do it?

Edit: Also, are they region locked?

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30th November, 2007 at 12:34:02 -

Emulation stuffs: Decent N64 emulation, perfect 16-bit and before console emulation (barring perhaps SNES mode7), almost perfect PSone emulation written by the kind people at Sony (UmJammer Lammy doesn't work properly, the guitar sounds aren't right ). It could potentially be emulating everything before it perfectly, it's just got to be coded right by the homebrew guys.

And no, they're not region locked. Except for UMD Video, I suppose, but that can be turned off in the custom firmware's recovery menu.

 

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30th November, 2007 at 12:48:48 -

Wow, emulation seems most adaquate! I assume it's only capeable on that over-weight version, not the slim one?

 
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30th November, 2007 at 12:50:03 -

They're pretty nifty machines. I used to have one, but homebrew was confusing as hell to use and the screen was faulty with bad ghosting. It's (apparently) much better now and games are really cheap.

And it has Cave Story

Wonder how Amiga emulation is now, last I tried it was really chuggy.

 
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30th November, 2007 at 13:28:20 -

Homebrew these days, you just put the downloaded application folder in one of the \PSP\GAME\ folders and it just pops up under game on the XMB.

 

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30th November, 2007 at 14:03:12 -


Originally Posted by PhixxyPEWPEW
Homebrew these days, you just put the downloaded application folder in one of the \PSP\GAME\ folders and it just pops up under game on the XMB.



That's all I want.

I've been spoilt by my M3. Everything just shows up there, a few things need patching with DLDI but it's all so easy. Shame that the next handheld will probably have PSP style anti-piracy updates

 
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30th November, 2007 at 14:12:54 -

Ive got cave story on my psp. It's the only game ive got on the memory stick currently! lol.

Oh by the way for some reason Amstrad cpc emulation isn't at 100% yet. Which amazes me since it can emulate psone games almost perfectly (some games crash)

But more popular formats will work better.

Ive found that Snes games with custom chips wont be at 100% speed with full frames. Like yoshi's island.
I think the emu programmers went for compatibility fist, speed second.

 
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30th November, 2007 at 14:46:27 -

Still it's gotta be better than DS emulation. NES and all that are fine, some SNES runs okay but mostly it's pants. And the Cave Story DS port is taking toooo long.

How does it run with the PSP's 16:9 screen, can you flip between stretched and 1:1? (wait, isn't cave story's native res 640*480? does it even fit?!)

 
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30th November, 2007 at 15:55:24 -

It's not stretched, and the original resolution was 320*240 I think. They just ported the original code and changed the output resolution to widescreen, static rooms have big black borders but scrolling areas just show more horizontally at once. It only causes a couple of bugs I think, things like enemies disappearing before they get all the way off the screen. Nothing that affects gameplay.

The DS version's a complete rewrite, isn't it? Probably won't be as good as the original anyway.

 

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30th November, 2007 at 16:00:43 -

I think so. From the demo the collisions and movement were perfect though. It's just the screen size. It'll need to be shrunk for the DS which will mess up some bosses.

 
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30th November, 2007 at 16:48:44 -

What is Cave Story?

 
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30th November, 2007 at 16:51:36 -


Originally Posted by -Slínka Claus-
What is Cave Story?



LOL! Good one (? ) ... to be honest though, I haven't played it yet.

 
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30th November, 2007 at 17:30:38 -

It's so good it's being ported to MMF

 
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30th November, 2007 at 17:38:17 -

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30th November, 2007 at 19:01:53 -

But Mr. Stump's dentures 2 is nothing like Cave story!

 
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30th November, 2007 at 19:10:30 -

How do you put Cave Story on a PSP? Do you need the usb cable, coz I believe mine is gone...

 
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30th November, 2007 at 19:58:30 -

So long as you have one of them memory card readers with a Memory Pro Stick Ultra Duo Core 2 slot you can just plug in your Memory Pro Stick Ultra Duo Core 2 card and there you go IIRC the PSP has a standard USB port anyways. You can get them for a couple of pennies these days.

I'm actually quite impressed by the cost of Memory Pro Stick Ultra Duo Core 2 cards. 8gb for £50? Lovely stuff!


Aaaand just to clarify - If I buy one of these fat M33-3 PSPs I'll be able to run 1.5 f/w applications natively, without downloading or running any other jiggery-pokery?

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You might need to install the 1.5 kernel, base firmware's getting too big, it needs to delete korean font and LocationFree Player to install.

But that's just as easy as running any other homebrew application, and the guy selling it might have done it already.

 

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Good stuff!

And how's the web browser now? I probably won't be using it much other than to check email, but last time I used I just got an influx of memory problems!

But lets say I buy a different f/w PSP, how easy is it to get the mofo M33-3 on it?

Sorry about all the questions

 
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It depends on which model you get.

 
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If you need to downgrade to 1.5 first, then it could be tricky. If you get a 1.5 PSP though, you'd just need to download each update, put it on the memory stick and run it. You don't need to do anything special for it to show up, since they use the PSP's default updater application.

 

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1st December, 2007 at 14:31:08 -

So I can just go shopping for a 1.5 system too, or any that can be downgraded back to 1.5 I guess. That widens the eBay options... hopefully to include a white PSP

 
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I had a white PSP, the big white border annoyed my eyes so I sold it and got a black one...

 

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Back on my Black DS Lite days it was much better playing at night, since you only saw the screen and not a glowing bezel too. HMM.

 
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Oh so Phixxy got deleted. Which admin did it?

I guess being banned is a reason to be banned.

At this rate we won't have any user names left at all!

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I've just bought one!

Veeery good condition, M33-3, no dead pixels, no ghosting. 256mb memory card. hard case.

Tomb raider legend
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All for £130. Which makes me chuffed. Planning on getting a 4gb card later tonight too so I can run my PS1 games I'm a bit excited!

 
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10th December, 2007 at 18:09:59 -

ALL THAT?!?!?! Game Station are selling just the PSP for £140 ;_;

... Possibly a selected game, too but still! Good work, doctor!

 
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There have been some on eBay recently. "mint" condition with 2gb memory card and all the right f/ws for £100, next day delivery. I was gutted when that one went! But I'm happy again now

 
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My PSP isn't at all minty.

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A lil update. Getting it on Thursday. Got GTA:VCS, Tomb Raider Anniversary, Tales of Eternia, Disgaea (?), Riveria and FF Tactics for xmas too 4gb memory card arrived this morning but it's a bloody fake! Ordered an extra 2200mAh battery and that's a real one.

Very excited about all this just need a few more games and I'll be more than sorted!

 
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18th December, 2007 at 07:49:10 -

Lol, I hope it doesn't have any dead pixels... did Sony sort that problem? Mine has 3

 
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The chap selling it says it has none! I worry about ghosting though. My first PSP was terrrrible with ghosting. Like having GTA trails enabled in every game.

 
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Oh i'll answer this one.

It's capable on any machine if you can find a way to load homebrew software. Although if not you can find Sega megadrive collection or something.

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My PSP never has screen ghosts.

 

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Well heres a tale for ye.

The PSP arrived but it wouldn't play UMD stuff. Homebrew was fine though. So I just made a little brash decision - I went out and bought a PSP slim, got home, made a Pandora battery on the old PSP and spent a good 20 minutes teaching myself how to work it all!

I friggin love it. It's beautiful, the screen is immaculate, all my homebrews work, UMD dumps, UMD discs. Ah. Screw the DS and its (IMO) lacklustre year.

 
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20th December, 2007 at 19:22:22 -

haha in half a years time the psp will be on a shelf covered in dust. Mine was until the other day. It really doesn't beat the DS IMO.

 
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Oh dear... Dr. Jamesa, go to the recovery menu by holding the right trigger while it turns on and switch off no-UMD.

DS sucks for gamers though, like the Wii.

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"DS sucks for gamers though, like the Wii."

...wow.

 
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Already done. I've also put it in a warm room (laser might have been temp. broke due to the cold) and gone at it with a lens cleaning kit. The things so buggered.

I still haven't found a game as good as Dawn of Sorrow or New Mario. I know this year the DS had Phantom Hourglass and Pokemon that just stormed the charts. Weren't too keen though.

 
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Originally Posted by JohanJohan!
DS sucks for gamers though, like the Wii.

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You crazy! The DS has so many extra features both the programmers and gamers can have SO MUCH FUN with.

 
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Both my DS and PSP are gathering dust at the moment.

I have both GTA games and Pro evolution soccer 6 for the psp but the controls are really rather poor for extended play, unless you enjoy cramp.

I bought Pocketmans for the DS and haven't ever played it.
Although my sisters often STEAL my DS to play brain training, which is theirs not mine.

 
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Originally Posted by DaVince [Ectoprods]

Originally Posted by JohanJohan!
DS sucks for gamers though, like the Wii.

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You crazy! The DS has so many extra features both the programmers and gamers can have SO MUCH FUN with.



No it doesn't, shut up you stupid!

 

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Hah, incapable of arguing well, or just a troll?

The touch screen, microphone and networking capabilities make the DS a nice console for new and unique gameplay experience.

 
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Pfft, touch screen? I had a PDA once, that had a touch screen. All the games on that were weird 'spell this word as fast as you can' games, and I bet the DS is EXACTLY THE SAME. I used to be able to write 'goat' in under six seconds. That wasn't fun and neither is your stupid fucking NETWORKING CAPABILITIES.

 

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Originally Posted by JohanJohan!
Pfft, touch screen? I had a PDA once, that had a touch screen. All the games on that were weird 'spell this word as fast as you can' games, and I bet the DS is EXACTLY THE SAME. I used to be able to write 'goat' in under six seconds. That wasn't fun and neither is your stupid fucking NETWORKING CAPABILITIES.



Wow, someone is really internet raging. Rage on!

 
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omg banz

 
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Originally Posted by AndyUK [Ectoprods]
omg banz


Looks like you got your Christmas wish.

 
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Also got myself one of them new Apple keyboards oooh it's a sexy keyboard. Slink you'll be getting one of these!

 
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Originally Posted by -Slínka Claus-

Originally Posted by AndyUK [Ectoprods]
omg banz


Looks like you got your Christmas wish.



you what?

 
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