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21st September, 2007 at 13:49:38 -


Originally Posted by Johnny Look
stop bashing microsoft, they do good things and bad things, but vista is great, as long as you have decent hardware.



I agree, Microsoft nor Windows Vista are bad, and it's getting annoying to constantly hear people say they are.

Microsoft, like any other company, is trying to get money. Get over it! Their software is not bad and it works fine granted you're not an idiot. The only problem with Windows Vista, like Windows XP and Windows ME, is that they haven't exactly learned their lesson! Vista needs a service pack, the service pack should completely fix it up. It worked for Windows XP, and now I think anyone who isn't a Mac fanboy can agree that it's one of the best personal operating systems to date.

PS: Trust me, I have my dislikes about Microsoft, but who doesn't. I'm just saying that Vista is just another XP not ME.

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21st September, 2007 at 14:37:28 -

Negative press, slow launch, initially problematic, filler before the next "big" update... Vista has been compared to ME so many times but it's up to SP1 to see if it sticks.

My installation is almost complete. I'll be able to whip up a lovely mini review once IT Crowd has finished!

I'm a Mac and Windows fanboy (LOL wrap your brain around that Brandon) and even I fail this "one of the best personal operating systems to date".

heh, it still says "may take several hours to complete installation" even though the bar is almost at the end. Marvellous timing.

 
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21st September, 2007 at 16:55:31 -

Okay so MMF2 won't open. The splash screen pops up with some jazzy text. Then it just goes off without any error message or out. Steam won't open at all. w00t for Vista... What a waste of an afternoon this has been.



 
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21st September, 2007 at 17:00:28 -

=/ People actually pay money for things that don't work?

I guess it's not my money.

 
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I'm on Vista Ultimate and Steam and MMF2 are working grand-like.


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Originally Posted by Dr. James
Okay so MMF2 won't open. The splash screen pops up with some jazzy text. Then it just goes off without any error message or out. Steam won't open at all. w00t for Vista... What a waste of an afternoon this has been.




Very quick to blame vista there aren't you?

Steam and MMF2 work fine for me. Could be something else?

 
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21st September, 2007 at 17:46:30 -


Originally Posted by Phizzy [Ectoprods]
You need the newest versions, of course... Clickteam only put proper Vista support in a couple of builds back.



MMF2 worked fine for me even back when I was using Windows Vista CR2 (before MMF2 was given builds to support Vista)

It had glitches yeah, but it opened fine and ran beautifully.

 
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21st September, 2007 at 18:09:44 -

He could be getting wierd errors from Vista not liking his Apple hardware. It's been known to happen. Or it could be one of those things, like my win2k installation crashing whenever a MMF/MMF2 app tries to fullscreen.

 
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I'm sorry Shab, I frequent Mac forums and I've never heard of that.

Well it all seems to be working now. Except it doesn't automatically connect to BlueTooth devices. Have to power cycle my keyboard to get it working (XP did this but only after a crash, OSX always connects it (a)). I've got it all working but stuff like MMF bonus packs and Steam had to be installed twice to get anywhere.

And MSN keeps nagging me to find some file, everything goes black and I'm locked out. Click cancel and it throws some hissy fit, attempts to install, realises it can't and back pedals before closing. XP didn't do this

On the good side some features are nifty. The interface reminds me of OSX but with colour customisation, address bar functionality, even my iccle Tormi seems to run faster. The OS in general feels faster and slower in different areas than XP, uncompressing my Steam back up now is really chugging the system compared to a much quicker XP. Still sad to see no pro support, when are Windows going to put in something as basic as RAW support? Them popping up windows are a bit of an eye strain. Any way to turn them off? And them constant security checks?

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21st September, 2007 at 19:39:26 -

Awesome. Episode 1 and TF2 aren't crashing! Looks like I'm stuck here now. Least I get to live out my fantasy of having an orange theme.

MMF2 games are definitely faster. As least my game is.

 
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21st September, 2007 at 20:29:18 -

I know Vista has its limitations but im ready for a new OS. Perhaps I should dual-boot but have Vista Default

 
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21st September, 2007 at 21:13:23 -


Originally Posted by Reno
I know Vista has its limitations but im ready for a new OS. Perhaps I should dual-boot but have Vista Default



That's what I did before I found out that my Windows XP Home Edition didn't like my dual core (along with a bunch of other issues that just limited me in ways unimaginable) so I replaced Vista with Windows XP Pro.

 
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21st September, 2007 at 21:48:18 -

XP didnt like your dual core so you replaces Vista with XP? That doesn't make any sense. Please elaborate

 
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21st September, 2007 at 23:33:33 -

I know XP Home supports dual core, but I just think that so many things were wrong with copy of XP Home (being that I foolishly never took the time to reformat after I bought my PC) and over time they just built up.

Also, when I put the dual core in, the Task Manager wouldn't display both performance graphs, only one. In fact the processor was actually slower then my solo-core when I was on Windows XP Home. After I installed Windows XP Pro, not everything rose up to twice the speed obviously, but games like Supreme Commander and programs like 3D Studio Max got absolutely dramatic performance boosts.
Supreme Commander went from 1-5fps up to 20-50fps; 3D Studio Max rendered around two times faster; Multimedia Fusion 2 games run around 10-15fps faster (higher clocks then old processor); Oblivion rose up to around 50fps (no more processor capping); and the rest of my programs got a little better.

So yeah, I know Windows XP Home supports Dual Core, but to a limited degree. I don't think that was my problem so much as my copy of Windows XP Home was just shit from the start, and I never noticed until I actually got a piece of hardware that I should have noticed, but didn't. Installing XP Pro was like going from night to day.


@Reno: I got rid of Vista, because I was annoyed by the piss poor performance I got in my games. Vista was basically cutting at least 20 frames per second off of my games, in most cases more. I only had 1GB (1.5GB now) but still, I'll wait for a service pack before I go back to Vista.
That's the only problem I have with it, is game performance. Especially now that I'm playing Team Fortress 2, Supreme Commander, and soon Portal. I can't afford to lose that much frame rate.

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22nd September, 2007 at 03:52:20 -


Originally Posted by axel

Originally Posted by SilverNova / Tim
The ONLY bad thing about Vista at the moment is the lack of drivers from manufacturers.



The ONLY bad thing about Vista is the fact that you actually have to ask on TDC whether a piece of software will work on it or not.



Thats down to the problems and hatred people have with it, but it's all been plain-sailing for me so that's my viewpoint. I've installed Vista 64bit now on my machine (Quad-core 4gb RAM) and another (Dual-Core, 2gb RAM) both running happily as ever, so having decent hardware is probably the main thing here - otherwise weird stuff is granted to happen. As it is really, with any piece of software. You need to meet (and preferably, often exceed) the requirements.

 
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