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25th May, 2007 at 20:50:33 -

Hey every one, I own an xbox 360 and my internet has secruity on it, i think its called WEP. I use a belkin wireless router which is connected to my 360 to get the signal from the DLINK router which is source of wireless. The problem is that ever since the secruity was put on main router, I now can't connect to it!! So will it work if i get a long network cable and join it directly from the 360 to the DLINK router.

PLEASE HELP!

 
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25th May, 2007 at 20:58:39 -

long LAN cables will eliminate the security problem yesh. Or better still get the MAC addresses of all the wireless devices on your network and make an allow list. then you can turn WEP off.

 
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25th May, 2007 at 21:06:37 -

Thanks Mr James I will be up in the roof after lunch, literally.
Im gonna play halo 2 tonight, oh thats a good idea about the allow list, should've thought about that before I bought a 15m LAN cable haha. Oh well at least the direct connection will speed up the connection won't it?

 
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26th May, 2007 at 05:53:46 -

This forum needs less xbox.

 
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The world needs no Xbox.

 
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26th May, 2007 at 13:19:31 -

Shame on you guys, xbox rules!

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26th May, 2007 at 14:47:05 -

ModernGameCreations Curious as you post this just about as Microsoft started banning modified consoles

 
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Rikus is Rikusk your gamertag?

 
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27th May, 2007 at 10:50:35 -

xbox 360 is just the best computer ever it beats the crap out of other computers. I don't get how people can say wii is better or ps3 is better becuz if you look at the specs its obvious that xbox is best. cant help with your promblem as I dont play online games.

 
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27th May, 2007 at 11:38:42 -

I'm sure Direct X10 would disagree with you there Peter.

 
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27th May, 2007 at 12:47:20 -

I'm sure FAKE ACCOUNT.

 
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28th May, 2007 at 06:26:16 -

"xbox 360 is just the best computer ever it beats the crap out of other computers. I don't get how people can say wii is better or ps3 is better becuz if you look at the specs its obvious that xbox is best. cant help with your promblem as I dont play online games."

Haha.
It's the games that makes a game console good. If you look at it that way, I'd say the SNES beats the crap out of the XBox 360 any time. (And the PSX after that. In my opinion. )

 
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28th May, 2007 at 10:57:37 -

I totally agree with that. I wish I never sold my psx. I have 3 snesses tho.

 
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28th May, 2007 at 10:58:53 -

It's hard to tell which is the most powerful console. Both 360 and PS3 are obviously more powerful than the Wii. But between those two. The PS3 has a more powerful cpu but it's also a lot harder to program for. Also, on the PS3 half the RAM is dedicated to graphics, while on the 360 the developer is free to split the RAM as he wish. On top of that, the PS3 OS takes up three times as much RAM as the 360 OS, and unlike the 360 OS doesn't have online functions built in.

All PS3s come with harddrives, while the 360 Core comes without HDD. Because of that developers can't rely on HDD for caching data for quick access (not uncommon on classic Xbox games) on the 360.

 
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28th May, 2007 at 12:02:32 -

VERY good point phreddy. The fact that dev's can't count on the HD being there is definately hampering development on the 360. Course, the Core system is going to be phased out very soon (or it already has been), so I'm sure we'll be seeing a bunch of games with some sort of "Hard Drive required" sticker on them.

 
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28th May, 2007 at 12:17:54 -

It seems to me that the Xbox360 and PS3 are more closely matched than the differences between the Three last gen machines.

The Wii is miles behind in terms of raw power, but Nintendo seems to know what they are doing. It's probably not as far behind as it seems. At the moment we are getting games on all three current gen systems. The odd Nintendo exclusive will also convince people to get a Wii too.

 
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28th May, 2007 at 12:24:48 -

Nah, the Cube and Xbox were pretty close in power last time. The Ps2 was only very slightly behind them.

 
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28th May, 2007 at 12:31:49 -

The Xbox had a 700mhz Celeron/P3 hybrid CPU.
The GC had a ~400mhz PowerPC CPU which was very efficient compared to an x86 CPU. Hell, look at all 3 next gen systems, they're all on the PPC bandwagon.

I still don't see why they removed the HDD from the 360. It beggars belief when their last gen system had one as standard. Even more laughable are the prices they're charging for said HDD. I can buy a 400gb Sata drive for the same price as the 20gb Sata drive on a 360.

 
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28th May, 2007 at 13:28:45 -

Has anyone successfuly used a non M$ harddrive yet in their 360?

Also, you guys think all the next gen systems will have multicore? Or is it just a console fad (It's obvious that's the way PC's are going, sure as hell ain't a fad there)?

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28th May, 2007 at 13:45:42 -

I'd welcome multicore systems, but only in future generation consoles. Introducing multicore halfway an existing game console causes games having to keep this stuff in account, and you'd get multicore intended games that actually run slow on the console.

EDIT: oh, you WERE talking about next gen systems. Hell yeah, multiprocessing FTW!

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28th May, 2007 at 13:56:09 -

Technically, only the Wii isn't multicored I believe. I hear that Sony's is a proprietary nightmare though.

 
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28th May, 2007 at 14:50:04 -

^ yes and yes.

I wonder how Alan Wake will run on an Xbox 360, since the game has only been reported as running "fine" on quad core systems.

 
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28th May, 2007 at 14:57:19 -

^ Wtf is up with that? Probably huge optimization and non-multithreading problems with the game, lol.

 
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28th May, 2007 at 15:25:43 -

I wonder how Alan Wake will run on an Xbox 360, since the game has only been reported as running "fine" on quad core systems.

A video game console is a whole different animal from a computer.

 
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28th May, 2007 at 15:28:34 -

Well, the X360 moreso than the Xbox anyway. The Xbox was bootable DirectX, some crazy bastards even managed to get a few PC games running on the original early in it's life (Not well, mind you)

 
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28th May, 2007 at 16:18:04 -

Well, the only one who makes 360s is Microsoft. However plenty of companies makes PCs. Also there are plenty of competing graphics cards, cpus et cetera while all 360 has pretty much the same components. 360 games can be optimized for the hardware, PC games on the other hand must remain compatible with a wider range of different PCs.

(As a matter of fact, Microsoft did change the video encoder in the last revision of the original Xbox. it only affected HDTV modes in a handful of games but did screw the Linux community. Linux has terrible overscan when running on 1.6 Xbox because of that)

 
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28th May, 2007 at 16:48:23 -

Uh..I'm aware that Microsoft is the only one that makes 360's dude. I was simply stating that instead of making a half bastard computer like the original Xbox was; they actually made it a "real" console this time around.

 
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28th May, 2007 at 20:56:21 -

"the Cube and Xbox were pretty close in power last time. The Ps2 was only very slightly behind them."

I didn't say otherwise, i just said the Xbox 360 and PS3 were closer than the differences of the older ones.

Actually i'm fairly sure the ps2 was considerbly weaker than the Gamecube.

 
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29th May, 2007 at 06:27:19 -

It was. That's why ports from Cube to PS2 looked horrendous and lacked a lot of visual finesse

What you've also got to take into account, that whilst the 360 and PS3 are churning up 186 and 200 watts respectably, the Wii is running on a peak of 18 watts. To get games like Excite Truck and Zelda running on 18 watts is nothing short of incredible industrial design.

 
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Uh..I'm aware that Microsoft is the only one that makes 360's dude. I was simply stating that instead of making a half bastard computer like the original Xbox was; they actually made it a "real" console this time around.

Half bastard computer or not, every Xbox is the same half bastard computer from a developer point of view.

 
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