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Tim

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29th August, 2006 at 11:16:30 -

Right, this to have a go at those involved with cheating for their GoTW and a moan in general with it.

It seems that there exists people sad enough to cheat GoTW (quote that if you will - "SAD"). On TWO occasions THIS MONTH there has been suggested cheating occurances.

Game of the week is about the 'klik' public and their approval, respect and enjoyment of the games on the poll - they vote for the game that they feel is the best, compared to the other games submitted that week - simple right?

Some AMAZING games have fallen into second or third place before, why? It all depends on:

(in order of importance)
- the competitors for the week
- the fan base
- (and often favouritism)

This DOESN'T mean that your game isn't good, by any stretch of the imagination.
GoTW isn't everything - its just a simple award (no offense to TDC), but put things into perspective here. Reputation and respect is on the line when you cheat - someone is always watching! Don't think just a few votes will go unnoticed. You don't NEED to cheat your way to GoTW, for that merely proves that you need to grow up and think about what the words arrogant, sad, pathetic, obsessive, narrow-minded and even selfish mean to you.

If you do win GoTW without cheating, then well done - you didn't have to pretend (to yourself and the public) that your game was better than the other's that week.
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More steps in order to PREVENT this being possible should really be considered.

It's not hard to implement an IP log that denies IP ADDRESSES from voting more than once. TDC works on the basis as a vote for each user, even though they log ip addresses. I'm sure that after a few tweaks in the code here and there the poll would be virtually cheat-free.

PHP can do the job - no problem. Proxies couldn't touch it, and nor could people creating so many accounts. Unless they had multiple ISP's and computers lying around.

I'm not going in to getting your friends and such to vote for you. If they like it they'll vote for it I guess.
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But for now, you must meet two simple objectives before you deserve GoTW:

- To create amazing high quality games that DESERVE to win GoTW for the effort put in, compared to the other games that week.

- Not to cheat and take advantage of this site and the klik community.
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Well that's my moan over with..!
Thanks for reading guys

 
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29th August, 2006 at 11:19:34 -

LOL like right now, you're winning even though Mind's Eye was pretty nice?

 
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29th August, 2006 at 11:59:00 -

Idea: Don't allow accounts younger than 1 month to vote. That way a GoTW nominee can't suddenly register 10 accounts to vote for himself. He could still hoard accounts, but I kind of doubt people would pre-register accounts just to vote for themselves if they get on GoTW.

 
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29th August, 2006 at 12:16:58 -

You're accusing me of cheating?! OH MY WORD :| :S

Get admins to check it all if you want - though i'm suprised, it's all legit.

Anyway, what's wrong with pingi?

 
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29th August, 2006 at 12:20:02 -

IMO Mind's Eye went up 3 votes in 2 minutes and have caught up 8 votes in total against Pingi in a day...

Though that's probably koz more people like that game, heh

But you know.. no finger waving or raised eyebrows to be found here.. just yet

 
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29th August, 2006 at 12:43:53 -

If "Pingi" somehow beats "Mind's Eye" or "Dance 'Til You Drop", I will definately suspect GOTW cheating...

p.s. That's not to say Pingi is bad... It's just that the other 2 mentioned are much better quality, In ones opinionation.

 
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29th August, 2006 at 12:45:54 -

I like Phredreeke's idea.

 
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29th August, 2006 at 12:56:10 -

Ones 'opinionation' of which one is 'entitlationed' to

Anyway the main point is my first post.

 
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29th August, 2006 at 13:13:14 -

I believe a system is current being coded so that only one account with the same IP address can vote for GOTW. Otherwise, we will definately be checking more often.

 
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29th August, 2006 at 13:23:03 -

really? ah that's good news

even better than i'd of liked too

 
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29th August, 2006 at 14:36:15 -

axel read your dc mails FFS

and get on msn too

 
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29th August, 2006 at 14:55:27 -

MSN doesn't like me, I don't like MSN.

 
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29th August, 2006 at 15:15:55 -

But you havn't been on forever. One time for 30 minutes won't kill you.

 
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29th August, 2006 at 15:23:09 -

Are you my MOTHER now?
Yeh yeh, entering MSN-land now

Edit: Okay, it keeps throwing me out and crashing. I hate MSN.

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29th August, 2006 at 15:34:51 -

I love forums too, they always stay on-topic lol

MSN've messed up along the line - about 33%+ having trouble logging on and staying on apparently

 
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29th August, 2006 at 15:56:56 -

"I love forums too, they always stay on-topic"

Irony

 
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29th August, 2006 at 16:00:30 -

Get Trillian or Miranda IM or some third party client then.

 
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29th August, 2006 at 17:38:35 -

haha yeah irony and severe sarcasm

 
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30th August, 2006 at 11:03:25 -

Yeah, I wanted to suggest what Phred said, except more objective.

Try an alternative messenger perhaps.

 
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30th August, 2006 at 11:10:13 -

Blehhh

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31st August, 2006 at 12:59:01 -

Preventing user accounts younger than two or so weeks would prevent vote farming. That and the IP thing would solve the problem.

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31st August, 2006 at 14:55:31 -

Preventing user accounts younger than two or so weeks would prevent vote farming.

And that is my suggestion, just 2 weeks shorter

 
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31st August, 2006 at 14:57:43 -

I think one week would be enough, since this is about Game of the WEEK protection anyway.

 
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31st August, 2006 at 15:01:56 -

but the user could make accounts a week before they submitted their game

and then vote

 
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31st August, 2006 at 15:06:48 -

So they could too TWO weeks in advance!

Eh, I guess Admins have the time to delete them then.

 
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31st August, 2006 at 19:36:05 -

Na i think that one ip address per user will sort that out.. though ip addresses DO change so i'm not too sure what would go on there ? :\

Still, like the 2 week idea too

 
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2nd September, 2006 at 01:41:20 -

but the user could make accounts a week before they submitted their game
Please read the entire post. It was only two sentences long.

The time limit would be to prevent farming; that is visiting other forums and getting a bunch of people to vote for you (the problem with that being that they generally won't have played the other games, which nobody does anyway, but it's a major imbalance to the process in this case).
The IP limiting prevents the same person voting multiple times, whether they create the accounts in advance or not. That prevents scripts or manual puppet-voting, but it wouldn't solve the problem alone.

 
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4th September, 2006 at 13:01:24 -

A new system has now been implemented.

 
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6th September, 2006 at 06:46:36 -

Please.

 
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6th September, 2006 at 07:08:36 -

No

Advice though: don't cheat in the polls, we ARE watching.

 
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6th September, 2006 at 17:54:17 -

Haha, the easy way out. Without an explination the cheaters are now at odds with themselves. You could be lying, or not. We'll just have to wait and see if someone actually ever gets caught.

 
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6th September, 2006 at 18:44:16 -

oooooOOOOOOOOOOOOooooo

Good plan!

 
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14th September, 2006 at 06:06:25 -

I say we should just have one vote per IP address each week Doesn't matter what account you're on

 
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14th September, 2006 at 06:48:48 -

Unfair for bro's, sisters and friends on the same computer.

 
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14th September, 2006 at 07:20:25 -

Liek nuklear yeh?

 
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14th September, 2006 at 10:49:27 -

nuklear? what happened to him anyway?

 
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14th September, 2006 at 15:36:18 -

Yeah, what happened to that little bastard?

 
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Then i farted really loud at his funeral.

 
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