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14th July, 2004 at 05:37:24 -

Why was NL deleted? I don't think he broke any rules and a lotta people actually liked him.

 
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14th July, 2004 at 05:41:37 -

Could be that he was trolling, constantly. Rule number 2 in the RoC. Possibly number 8, as well, depending on whether or not John Howard is a TDC member.

 
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14th July, 2004 at 05:47:17 -

He didnt post more than normal members, and he always had something to say, only in an odd way..

also john howard was just his avatar, he never said he WAS john howard.

 
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14th July, 2004 at 05:50:43 -

I said trolling, not flooding. Rule 2 covers any disruptive activity. Flooding is just an example.

 
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14th July, 2004 at 06:08:27 -

I don't see how he was troling, whatever it is.

 
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14th July, 2004 at 06:18:59 -

Trolling just means going around saying stupid things to get a response (like starting an argument or deliberately getting banned). I'm pretty sure NL new what he was going in for.

 
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14th July, 2004 at 06:21:38 -

I don't think the stuff he posted was as bad as some of the shit certain members here blurt out at every possible occasion. He simply had a catch phrase that he liked to recite very often.

 
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14th July, 2004 at 06:21:57 -

most people here do..

 
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14th July, 2004 at 06:49:35 -

Yeh like Word Life
I didnt even know he got banned, thats very harsh he wasnt "Flooding" he posted like once in a thread, Im sorry TDC admins but thats really bad, i mean cmon he wasnt doing anything bad cut the guy some slack, man i think i might by some stocks in him HAR HAR HAR, vote right-wing!

 
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14th July, 2004 at 07:10:49 -

probably jealous because he has stocks in practicly everything and they dont.

 

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14th July, 2004 at 08:08:09 -

it seems a strange time to ban someone

i mean for years he has been annoying everyone in the click community
and as soon as we start to like the fella he gets banned.

 
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14th July, 2004 at 08:38:51 -

i don't know why he was banned or who did it. i didn't think he was breaking any rules .

 
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14th July, 2004 at 09:35:05 -

They have some interesting priorities here.

 
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14th July, 2004 at 09:52:47 -

I think we should all get a catchphrase and say it in every post we make. Because you sound like a sinusoid!

 
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14th July, 2004 at 09:59:19 -

I think we should all be quiet now.

That's my catch phrase. HAR HAR.

 
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14th July, 2004 at 10:24:34 -

I have stocks in NationalLiberal HAR HAR HAR

uhh, never mind

 
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14th July, 2004 at 10:44:00 -

If we wanna know who deleted NL, we just have to ask "who deleted nationalliberal?"
if we get an answer, we know it. if we dont get an answer, or the post gets deleted we have the answer too, if you know what I mean.

 
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14th July, 2004 at 11:47:43 -

thats not all he posted.

 
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14th July, 2004 at 11:51:46 -

I don't care about what he did to get banned, I'm running a campaign to bring him back.

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14th July, 2004 at 12:52:19 -

I vote yes on the law to bring back NL!

 
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14th July, 2004 at 13:00:35 -

WHOEVER DELETED HIM JUST MADE THE DAILY CLICK SUCK MORE

 
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14th July, 2004 at 13:10:23 -

Yes. I actually liked him.

 
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14th July, 2004 at 13:10:51 -

Exactly, and whoever did it will sound like a sinusoid! <-- LOOK, TEH 'S' IS COMMON TO 'SINUSOID' AND 'SHADOWCASTER'!! AND SHAB!!!111

 
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14th July, 2004 at 14:28:01 -

confusing...

he got on my nerves, im glad hes gone

 
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14th July, 2004 at 14:33:40 -

he will come back anyway

 
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14th July, 2004 at 15:09:22 -

You get on my nerves Ice Kirby, and for that I don't like you.

 
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14th July, 2004 at 15:44:53 -

as far as i'm concerned the door is always open for him.

 
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14th July, 2004 at 15:49:55 -

Phizzy, shut up when you don't know what you're talking about.
I didn't delete NL, NL knows this cause I told him he needed to come here more often. I want Liberal Back too.

 
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14th July, 2004 at 15:50:24 -

He'll be back.

 
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14th July, 2004 at 15:59:33 -

Probably someone that got too bored with his stocks and his HARdeHARdeHAR... but I haven't seen an admin yet that said NL should stop that :S

 
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14th July, 2004 at 18:33:07 -

Are you people very dumb or very stupid?
NationalLiberal sucked balls. Now I don't have anything against NationLiberal's alter-ego, but come on people, NL was a one-joke character, and there's always gonna be a problem when the character's one joke sucked in the first place.
If the member in question feels the need to make a new character, can you have him suck less and be funny more, and while you're at it, less annoying?

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14th July, 2004 at 18:55:01 -

Personally, I'm glad he's gone. Even though I was on a long hiatus from this site for a while. I came back to see some of his posts while he was still around and found them to be immature and obnoxious. I didn't really see anything funny about his joke about stocks, etc.

 
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15th July, 2004 at 02:06:59 -

I wonder if he's actually ever made money out of all of the stocks he has.

 
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15th July, 2004 at 02:19:45 -

im gueesing it was either Shadowcaster or Circy, doubt rikus wouldve done it although he yhas been fairly active on TDC in the past weeks buti dont think he would do such a thing

 
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15th July, 2004 at 02:32:30 -

oh and i vote Yes to bring back the BIFF!!!!!! oh and national Liberal to.

 
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15th July, 2004 at 02:51:28 -

I'm all for National Liberal, but he probably had a heart attack, so his account is useless anyway.

 
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15th July, 2004 at 12:29:49 -

I am almost visiting TDC at a daily basis. The last couple of days I have been busy and away though. When I came I was amazed (but not in a good way) that NL was deleted.

He could hardly be banned on #8. Should it not be interpreted as it is illegal to imporsonate TDC members? Basically it is not illegal to impersonate non TDC members? I mean would anyone mind if I signed up as RobinHood? Surely it cannot harm anything to call yourself NL and having a pic of John Howard as sig. He never claimed to be John Howard as far as I know (and would that matter, would anyone believe him)?

Rule #2. Maybe but not likely. He mostly had something reasonably useful to say in his own "I have stocks HAR HAR HAR!" style. He never attacked anyone in person with his posts (as far as I know). However he was not posting constantly and numerous times in the same thread destroying the ongoing conversation. And if that was enough to get him kicked *A LOT* of members deserve to be deleted by their numerous off topic and otherwise meaningless posts.

If Pete and Shab did not delete him (and Circy is away) it narrows it down. I dont think Wong Chung Bang did it ... neither that Rikus did it (I dont know him well though). SC is the only likely person to do it (based on previous actions) but why would he do it?

I also find it sad that NL has left us. It made the forums a more poor place to be. I also vote YES bring back NL.

Admins: Could we please get some kind of official statement as to why NL was deleted? If nothing else then at least to know what he did wrong (so we dont make the same mistake and get deleted).

 
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15th July, 2004 at 12:35:05 -

It should be a rule that each member only have one account, as it is on a lot of forums. Then he would have been deleted anyway. I'm glad "he's" gone anyway, hurray to the admin who did it, keep up the good work.

If everyone's so sad he's gone, howsabout I pop up on the fourms and tell the same crappy joke over and over again, will that fill the NationalLiberal void?


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15th July, 2004 at 12:37:35 -

Wasnt me, judging by the logs i do know who it was but i'll let the person explain for himself

ps. However in defence of that admin, people should just register using there own nick and not as nl, or spiderman or any other made up person, and the har har har bit and lets be honest that was getting really annoying, and was loosing its comic value way to quickly. Also the reply's where 99% of the time not on topic and where just a reference to the stocks thing, so yea he may have been funny at first, added some activity to the forums but his posts where not informative at all not directly related to the topic and after a dozen of replies like this i can see why 1 admin would delete him. Fair or not fair but you can take only so many har har's

Of course some people disagree and that's your right, and we will take note of that for a next time but it was not that funny c'mon Heck i'm surprised so many replied to this topic in the first place, ohhh well,

now...if you would excuse me i have to finish my "bring nl back" banner...j/k

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15th July, 2004 at 12:53:28 -

Drummroll!...

Oh and ps, i think Hayo and Fishhead should stand up and talk about there alter ego C'mon we know, us admins know everything..har har har

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15th July, 2004 at 13:14:50 -

You obviously don't as you haven't mentioned who else NL was...

 
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15th July, 2004 at 13:34:20 -

Well i can only do so much

 
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15th July, 2004 at 14:22:42 -

Yeah yeah.

 
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15th July, 2004 at 14:30:19 -

You want the truth about NL?
Here we go...

NationalLiberal was created by Frank "tomatoman" Menzel about 1,5 year ago.
It is a rich old person, who has stocks in everything, he is extremely right winged and pretty nasty. This is the kinda person Frank, being a real red leftist, hates. Frank decided to create a NL-account on TDC, just for fun, but frank is the king of spam (Iklik-it veterans know that), and soon he was annoying everybody, and even bashing my games. I took over his account (his pass was not hard to guess), but before I could do anything circy changed the pass so nobody could use him anymore

Nationalliberal lived on on other places. I changed his personality a little bit. I was pretty annoyed about some people in the klik community who act like assholes. I wanted to make NationalLiberal the biggest asshole in the community. Nobody would be able to be a real asshole anymore, he would always be outdone by NL. There was one rule tho: NL never attacks a person.
This was kinda fun for a while on natomic, where circy was bashed by Brad the handsome, or on Total Klik where it was full of victims for NL, but after a while I just forgot about him.

A few weeks ago I saw some asshole-ish comments on TDC, and I was talking about it with a DC admin who shall remain nameless, and he reset NL's pass for me. The only thing I did with NL was making some posts (mostly the ones with pictures in it), and i had some nice DC-mail conversations with klik-assholes. The other messages were posted by other people who had acces to NL's account.

thats all there is to say about NationalLiberal, I never had complete control over him, and I only used him to bash the bashers. I now want to ask everybody in this community: when you see assholes, create a NL-account and attack! HAR HAR HAR!

 
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15th July, 2004 at 14:37:36 -

Riight... but that still doesn't explain why this NL got banned

 
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15th July, 2004 at 14:44:34 -

I got to read some of the things these people said to NL (Hayo), and to tell you the truth, they were not pretty.

One particular person, Brad, called Hayo every name under the sun, and insulted those who supported him, as well as some of the admins here on TDC.

Personally I don't blame Hayo for using NL as a comeback, he actually pulled it off pretty well and ticked off a lot of the a**holes who bothered him in the process.

 
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15th July, 2004 at 15:37:26 -

annoying mails? I offered you to be a NationalLiberal!

 
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15th July, 2004 at 16:37:14 -

When did this become an attack on me?

Jon - (Smegsoft): If that is all you got from that mail then obviously you weren't paying enough attention.

Hayo: Hey maybe now you might actually have to voice your opinions with your own account rather than hide behind the your (surely exagerated ) fat alter ego.

I've never been one to hide my own opinions and I could care less if you feel the need to attack me for doing so. It's no secret that I sorely dislike a lot of people here. Muz, Pete Natress, Shadowcaster.. the list goes on. I'll still come here because it's better than other klik sites (klik-academy.. LOL) but i won't agree with everything that goes on here just because it is good for some false friendly smiles and hugs persona that you people feel everyone should have.

Oh and by the way, since everyone is coming clean, why don't one of you step forward and tell who was the one flooding the "forgot password" script a few weeks ago. (which conveniently happened the same day these dc-mail chats between nationallibral and myself were going on.)

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15th July, 2004 at 16:59:17 -

brad, how could you, you said we were forever friends

 
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15th July, 2004 at 17:23:19 -

I can't believe I'm not on a hated list. Now I feel left out...

 
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15th July, 2004 at 17:25:24 -

I am voicing my opinions all the time here Brad, with my own account.
I always try to protect the new folks and the good folks, wich mostly results in stupid folks trying to bash me, because they think I am trying to protect a blurry buggy game I once made.

Like I told you in our DC-mail conversation I think klikking is just for fun. People like you spoil this, whatever your reason is. You are so negative about the things I think are/were good (iklik-it, mr stump, KA, and people who are just friendly guys). You say you dislike a lotta people here, but that's because they dislike you. I am not saying we should act like stoned hippies here, but lets keep everything a bit polite.
You have to realise some people here don't really have a lot in their life apart from klikking and talking on this site. It sounds sad but they really can't help that. People like you and me don't really care when people bash our games, we have other nice hobbies and stuff, but imagine someone who only has an "internet life" and gets bashed by some people who think they are better than all the others.

Btw, Klik Academy will get a lot better soon, and will be totally contolled by the people you dislike



 
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15th July, 2004 at 17:31:39 -

Brad, you can't even make a simple reply without having to insult someone, their site, or their creations.

It really does show people how negative and insecure you really are.

I myself have nothing against you personally, as I don't actually know you, but I certainly won't stand idly by and let you insult the crap out of people just to make yourself feel better.

Now why don't you grow up a bit, and learn to be polite and perhaps if you are LUCKY, it might actually get you somewhere!

 
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15th July, 2004 at 17:34:14 -

I wonder who did it.

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15th July, 2004 at 17:54:48 -

here's a photo of me and brad taken in happier times.

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15th July, 2004 at 17:54:59 -

TOTALLY OFF TOPIC!

I saw Bananarama... on TV. Dude that must be a real accomplishment.

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15th July, 2004 at 19:51:30 -

hey nat that pic was taken before we all went back to the cabana eh? I remember that trip.

 
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16th July, 2004 at 00:18:27 -

Ah ha, I was waiting for Jenswa to make an appearance!

Edit: Personally, I find brad insulting at times, but that's not too bad, since atleast he doesn't use perverted language/stuff. Everyone has their own oppinions, nothing you can do about that. If they have their own oppinions and start using potty mouth though....wash their mouth out with soap, along with their dc games, articles, previews, etc.

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16th July, 2004 at 01:29:15 -

LMAO pete, Hayo you tricky basterd never knew you were NL, oh well

 
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16th July, 2004 at 03:28:40 -

Bring back NL! HAR HAR HAR HAR!

 
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16th July, 2004 at 05:24:28 -

Still doesn't explain the use of Australia's prime minister John Howard in alot of stuff posted by NL. I mean serious...what...the...fuck!!!

Can somebody please explain this totally horrifying obsession this NL guy, whoever decides to be him, has with my countries crappy caterpillar eye-browed prime minister!?!?!?

I'm confused and terrorfied to know that people in other countries actually know who the fuck his is in the first place!

 
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16th July, 2004 at 08:10:24 -

when frank was looking for an avatar for his character he typed "national liberal" in google, and found john howard.

 
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16th July, 2004 at 11:35:13 -

we still don't know for sure who deleted him btw...

 
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16th July, 2004 at 12:25:21 -

It was the BUTTERFLY

 
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16th July, 2004 at 15:44:06 -

Wow I never knew the full story behind NL, it's sadder than I even thought, and I just always thought it was Hayo, but I was silenced from saying so.

 
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16th July, 2004 at 16:21:28 -

"it's sadder than I even thought"

What is sad about bashing assholes?

 
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16th July, 2004 at 19:04:00 -

I never noticed any asshole bashing, only popping up randomly and irrelevently in perfectly normal topics to say you have stocks in something. That's not asshole bashing.
I'm all about sticking it to people who deserve it, but I never even noticed any bashing of any kind, and not to any assholes.
I don't get hiding behind an alternate identity anyway, if you wanna take the piss out of some prick, then do it in person for fucks sake, take some credit.

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16th July, 2004 at 20:29:50 -

Amen Trevor, Amen.

 
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16th July, 2004 at 21:46:22 -

lol........

 
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17th July, 2004 at 02:18:29 -

This topic is really pathetic, no offense.

 
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17th July, 2004 at 04:39:26 -

trevor:

"Nobody would be able to be a real asshole anymore, he would always be outdone by NL. There was one rule tho: NL never attacks a person."

"The only thing I did with NL was making some posts (mostly the ones with pictures in it), and i had some nice DC-mail conversations with klik-assholes. The other messages were posted by other people who had acces to NL's account."

the random stock comments where not part of the job, it was just decoration. some people didn't get it, others did.


 
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17th July, 2004 at 14:00:19 -

Nobody will ever replace our beloved HAR HAR SUPERSTAR

 
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17th July, 2004 at 16:34:35 -

Haha, I found out it wasn't a good idea to let phizzy have NL's pass, I asked him to write a short story in nationaliberal style...but phizzy didn't know what a short story is

 
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17th July, 2004 at 19:05:50 -

and nl had stocks in phizzy anyways

 
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17th July, 2004 at 22:23:32 -

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I never really found him annoying, not that I'm really part of this commuity anyways.

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18th July, 2004 at 04:09:49 -

I liked him... Who got rid of him anyway?

 
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18th July, 2004 at 16:27:49 -

i think people were starting to like nl because a lot of posts at the moment are complaints or arguments
the whole stocks thing added some much needed comedy to the daily click

 
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18th July, 2004 at 16:56:04 -

no! NationalLiberal was NOT funny! for he is not christian!

 
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18th July, 2004 at 16:58:05 -

???? So ????? who cares if he wasnt christian!

 
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18th July, 2004 at 17:04:27 -

no! NationalLiberal was NOT funny! for he is not christian!

Was that supposed to be funny? Because it wasn't.

 
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18th July, 2004 at 17:56:32 -

Is Hubertus Hayo too?

 
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18th July, 2004 at 21:39:08 -

One would hope it's someone else trying too hard

 
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19th July, 2004 at 01:20:50 -

Once I made National Liberal an admin at Total Klik. It didnt last very long before nazi Podunkian revoked his powers though

 
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19th July, 2004 at 06:32:48 -

Hahaha that wouldve been good to see

 
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23rd July, 2004 at 20:34:28 -

"Is Hubertus Hayo too? "

NO!

I am Hubertus!

And Hayo is not christian, nor was NationalLiberal!

 
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23rd July, 2004 at 20:39:28 -

Okay, I believe you.

Completely off topic, has anyone ever noticed how hard it is to sound sarcastic when you're posting on the internet?

 
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24th July, 2004 at 13:44:43 -

You have to use the winking tongue face to pull it off correctly
';P'

 
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24th July, 2004 at 14:19:44 -

Or be over-the-top.

 
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24th July, 2004 at 15:15:06 -

But that just makes you look like an idiot

 
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