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27th March, 2004 at 16:40:19 -

yeah! Blame those republicans! I pray he dosent get re elected. Hes done nothing but waste time, US money, and many lives. If only i was a few months older I could help stop him!!

 

Ashman

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27th March, 2004 at 19:20:58 -

President Bush... bah... more like Punchline Bush...

 
Show me the power child,
I'd like to say,
That I'm down on my knees today,
Gives me the butterflies,
Gives me away,
'Til I'm up on my feet again,
I'm feeling outshined.


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27th March, 2004 at 21:28:14 -

"Anti Bush people are like "It's all Bush's fault!"
It's easy to say that it's all Bush's fault, I know.

But what fault? I know some people blame him for the economy and they shouldn't. I'm talking about the war. I think him and his cabinet are solely responsible for that. They got support for it, but if they never did anything about it we wouldn't of gone to war.

Politically hyper? Thats bullshit. Thats the phrase people like you use when you can't know your wrong or you don't know what to say. Kind of like Rush Limbaugh every day. Politically hyper can be used to describe extremest, but not people like me. We are just pissed off, thats all.

There are good republicans, and there are bad democrats. I don't look at every republican and say damn he must suck. I judge them as equal as I can.

"DEC the numbers are low. Thousands, most wars are in the tens of thousands, and while our soldiers are dieing, every soldier knows that's a possibility when they join. "
-Many wars are in the millions. War is stupid, and whats the point if it's going to be conducted under false pretenses? If Bush came out and said, were gonna liberate Iraq today! Maybe, just maybe I would except it if we had international supposrt. But what the fuck? I don't recall him ever saying anything about liberating the Iraqi people in the sea of lies about Imminent Danger, Nuclear Weapons, Danger Danger Danger, Fear everywhere, watch your back, and other bullshit like that.-

It's not often the U.S. screws up. It's like some of the American people think that it doesn't happen. Some people (... Ann Coulter) Think that Vietnam was such a great idea.


 
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Mr Coffee



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28th March, 2004 at 12:33:01 -

Protecting nuclear power plants is all well and good, but it's better to stop terrorists before they get into the USA in the first place. Even if all those places were impossible to attack, terrorists would attack something else. You can't defend everything, so the best strategy is to keep them out in the first place. I actually think those places are defended better than you might think, they probably have security cameras that could spot someone snooping around.

Yes, Bush did talk about liberating the people of Iraq (go read the speeches he made) but that was only part of the reason for going to war. The main reasons were to protect US interests; stopping Iraq before it became a big threat, spreading democracy in Iraq, etc. Maybe the oil in Iraq was another good benefit, who knows. But remember the US is not just going to walk in and "steal" their oil, if they want to share the oil with the US then they can but nobody is forcing them to.

 
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28th March, 2004 at 12:43:02 -

"But remember the US is not just going to walk in and "steal" their oil, if they want to share the oil with the US then they can but nobody is forcing them to."

I thought that all contracts signed *before* an open and democractic election are binding?

Therefore I would think that if they install any non-democratic "half-way" party to be in power and choose the people to try and make sure that they are pro-US and do the deals.

Of course, I am sure all the people who leant Saddam money will be asking for the new democratic leaders of Iraq to pay it back. IMO any money given to Saddam can only be in a deal with Saddam, not Iraq as a whole, because he was not democraticly elected. "Hey, we helped your oppresor. Now give us the money we have him back." - doesn't make much sense to me.

Unlike some I do not think that Saddam should have been ignored, but going in without much planning for the consequences and doing it in such a way that it sets a v. bad precedent is *not* what I would call the right way to do it!

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28th March, 2004 at 14:13:23 -

"You can't defend everything, so the best strategy is to keep them out in the first place."

-Security Cameras. Woopty Doo. These guys are ruthless. They can drive bomb trucks right into places like that. They will kill themselves, and thats the scariest thing.

And, what makes you so sure were stopping terrorism?

Some experts agree, were only feeding it with this war. Isn't that what we did in the 80s with Reagan? Why yes, it was.

 
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Tigerworks

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28th March, 2004 at 14:39:51 -

You know what REALLY annoys me?
Okay, 590 american soldiers have died. That's sad, and terrible for their families. However in this three page discussion, NOBODY has mentioned that approximately 10,000 iraqi CIVILIANS have been killed in this war!
And that's civilians, not military personnel.
So why hasn't this been mentioned? Is it not far more tragic than 590 military deaths?

http://www.iraqbodycount.net/editorial_feb0704.htm


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28th March, 2004 at 16:07:08 -

who cares.. they're not americans so they don't matter.

 
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28th March, 2004 at 16:27:16 -

That's right Brad.

Edit: If you did not pick up the irony of my post...

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Kramy

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28th March, 2004 at 19:53:31 -

I don't care. This is not a site for politics. I don't take part in polititcs because it makes another huge war start again. Everyone will die a hideious screaming death. The end.

 
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28th March, 2004 at 21:19:45 -

"who cares.. they're not americans so they don't matter."

I give a damn. If you don't then fuck you.

 
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Rick (AntiMatter Entertainment)

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28th March, 2004 at 23:30:32 -

I had just written out a fairly long post of my opinion about this war, when I stopped and thought about what the hell I was doing. In any case, a bunch of (mostly) teenage Klikkers can't pretend they really know anything at all about this war. We know what we know from the internet and the TV, both of which are heavily influenced by the media. What we know is only what our respective countries want us to know, and we cannot possibly see this war from all sides, thereby making it nearly impossible for any one person to give an accurate account of its happenings. We should all stop talking like this war's future and the future of the Iraqi people are up to us as individuals.

As for what Brad said... Damn. You have absolutely no respect for anything or any person at all, do you? This is a very touchy subject, and you handle it with no care whatsoever. I respect you as a Klikker, but definately not as a person from what you have shown me thus far. I hope you take that in a more informative way than as an insult, because I'm not trying to insult you. I'm just declaring my disgust.

Yeah, anyway, let's all just release some tension with a few games of MoD or something. This subject eventually just pisses everyone off.

 

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29th March, 2004 at 00:18:21 -

AntiMatter: And then there are those of us that have email contacts in Iraq and don't bother listening to the media.

Antimatter: I think Brad was joking though....if not then there's a problem.

 
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29th March, 2004 at 00:47:57 -

I wonder if there is one place with forums that doesn't have this topic in the very words used in this title... myeh

 
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29th March, 2004 at 08:01:11 -

Threads about politics always seem to break the Board Rules of Conduct #3, 4, and sometimes 5.

Watch yourself, DEC Stuff, pal.



 
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