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Registered 23/09/2002
Points 4811
22nd July, 2003 at 06:46:50 -
ok, i think everyone's noticed the stream of useless articles that's flooded the article section. the articles section is, IMO, primarily for articles realting to "physical" aspects of klicking. like how to assign gravity to an object, or code a chat app, etc.
i'm not knocking the authors of these specefic articles, but we'll soon be getting to the point of every other article being about how everyone is nasty, which is just a waste of everyone's time.
so, if you dont want to see any more articles like this, sign your name here and maybe people will get the message, and something can be done about it.
There's a difference between an actual article and someone voicing their oppinion on a topic. I think the oppinion 'articles', like the ones you mentioned Pete, should be strictly for the forums and to be discussed in that matter.
Articles should be of the useful and through provoking variety. They should give you tips, pointers, spawn ideas, and be in someone way useful. More of a tutorial or brain storm rather than you "well here's what I think about something". It should based around fact rather than oppinions.
Count me in to your frat party...i mean petition.
MUGGUS
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Let me start by asking you if you know what an Article is? They are not ALL Tutorials with examples. Infact I liked both of those articles, they were good reads. I'd also like to read many more articles based on things such as someone talking about there favorite klik games, and what made them so good. I'd like to read an article by someone interviewing a team that has absolutly no connection to the person interviewing. I would like more articles about the community. I want to read what people would like to see in games, have seen enough of in games, can't get enough of in games. Not every article is a Tutorial. I want variety like in a magazine, who knows? Maybe we will eventually get a Klik Magazine? Anyway, I'm sure you get my point. Maybe its time to catagorize the articles aswell, like into Tutorial, news, interview, thoughs on, etc. What do you think of that?
We all know the definition of 'Article', but we also all know the definition of 'Waste.' The number of articles wasting DC space and member's time is getting rediculous.
We have rehashes of existing articles, in my opinion, article topics should not be recycled without any significant revelations. We also get small crappy paragraphs about nothing important, a lot of articles flaming newbies, a lot of articles defending newbies, and the past few weeks have seen lots of articles about how mean people are, and a couple of retarded articles that were thankfully deleted (Remember 'ban old men from DC', anyone?)
The situation is getting rediculous, cos there's too much crap to wade through in the articles section before anything useful is found. No wonder noobs aren't learning anything when they can't find a decent tutorial.
Count me in,
we need some good stuff
and not people's opinion about the gameworld
and what he or she thinks about a klik-game,
that needs to be a review.
But SircatmaN DO have one good point (so I think). I also miss something like a "klik magazine". Something like whats going on in the community, whats the "major" teams doing etc etc.
Several mod communities (HL mods/BF1942 mods and more) have stuff like that. That would be cool. Thats partly also why I miss Planet Klik.
If that should be placed in articles or not is an intirely different discussion (Id say no).
I think the articles need a pre-post moderation. Something that will let them all see it in a private page and atleast one of them would give it the okay for posting. The only ones who lose in this are the people who intentionaly write crap, and the people who dont know any better, they can receive a nice lil DC msg telln them it wasnt approved for what ever reason.
Articles are not the place for opinions, dated newbie topics, spam, or anything else that is not a) click related, and b) instructional!
Also, if any newbies are reading this; NO questions on the articles board please. Shove em in the forums' code-it section instead.
Of course, we've all been here so many times before, and know that it's not going to have any effect on the number of useless opinionated articles we get given, lol.
I completely forgot what I just read, but I agree anyway. Tell ShadowCaster to add a massive red flashing arrow pointing towards the Boards link to discourage people.
Gah, I'm sick of this. How many times do I have to tell you people, if you don't like an article, then don't read it. It goes by the same concept as if you don't like a game, then don't download it, or if you don't like a site then don't go to it.
It's not like you're getting paid to read or review an article or anything. It's not like the article is wasting too many valuable minutes of your life. It's not even that the article is knocking anything important off. Nobody really wants to read a good article. People just read what has a nice title and what goes against their beliefs. Take a look at my good articles and see how many people actually read them. It's like the news: People don't wanna know about progress and prosperity, they just like watching the news about wars and crime.
Yes, maybe some of you geeks (no offense intended) look at the good, informative articles, but chances are, you missed some of the best simply because the topic wasn't interesting enough. I urge you to click the "Articles" link up there and see what quality material you've actually missed out.
The informative articles like that one about custom weapon selection systems and using the array object were pretty much ignored. And they were on the Latest 10 list since last Monday, which is a very, very long time in internet terms. So no, the bad articles hardly ever really push the good ones off the list, unlike what some of you guys said.
Besides, what I think every article should have is...
a) A statement/message that DOES NOT need a response
b) An informative piece of work that could benefit anyone at all
So please, just stop with the complaints already. If some some rambling idiot out there just... rambles, ignore him/her. Just enjoy yourself at the DC. We're here to have fun.
BTW, this might be a good time to bring up my idea again of having a FAQ section or an Article Zone to recognize the GOOD articles. It will cause less people to repeat themselves in their articles, cause less problems when it comes to asking for help, and actually inspire people to make quality articles. Isn't that what you all want? See my other post, "What I think the DC should put in..." for more details on that and other good ideas that the master admins have been ignoring.
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I think articles should be categorised like in the downloads section. Category for tutorials, category for daily click related, etc. Just a suggestion.
Hmmm, Muz does have a point, tutorial articles are ignored pretty much. Many people would rather complain about the community then actually talk about how to use Multimedia Fusion and The Games Factory. Many people would also rather complain about articles that complain about the community then actually talk about klicking. The best way to improve the quality of articles is to stop posting comments in bad articles and post more comments in good, informative articles. People would stop posting so many articles about the community if they were ignored.
Well, I, as one of the creators of the articles above, think this:-
-Yes there should be catagorized article ranges
-No you may post whatever you want on the articles on the condition that it is about the article, that you have read the article completely and give a complaint
in a proper manner. Stop swearing your heads off!
-Yes, there should be a DC magazine, but half the people from TDC are from other countries eg. I'm in Australia, and the transport of them there would be heaps, plus there aren't really enough Daily Clicker's to actually be able to have a magazine.
-No, the articles should not be deleted, Muz had a good point before, read a little, if your interested in reading the rest, then read, if you hate what you;ve read so far, then exit. Donnot post any comment without reading it as you may have missed reading the factual and interesting, good bits.
So please! Stop going crazy, I and the other person who wrote that article only meant for the best. Yet a war started basically, keep your thoughts to yourself!
Um... I think they meant magazine in the sense of online magazines, not an actual published one .
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Assault Andy Administrator
I make other people create vaporware
Registered 29/07/2002
Points 5686
8th August, 2003 at 22:51:53 -
LOL! Yeah they did mean online. There is Klik Disk, and that other one. Yeah!
I think that articles should be categorized, too.
Articles can be a lot of different things. But what I like to read, I think I like the same stuff as SircatmaN
And about the magazine: Maybe it could be a 'printer friendly' online magazine that you can print out and read on your way to school/work and such. I would help contribute a little to the magazine.
Um... JonWoG, in case you haven't noticed, people post an average of about one article every 2 days. I mean I've seen times when 4 were posted a day, but that's very rare. I hardly think that the crap articles are knocking off the others... unless you go online once a month or so.
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Hmm... try begging to someone who has FTP access about the categorizing thing... you know, like ShadowCaster, Rikus, or Clubsoft. Or maybe even Andi but I dunno if he counts.
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Show me the power child,
I'd like to say,
That I'm down on my knees today,
Gives me the butterflies,
Gives me away,
'Til I'm up on my feet again,
I'm feeling outshined.
If things get worse, we should probably make it so that new articles have to be accepted by an admin, like the games. That would probably get things under control.
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Btw, why does the first article by Micheal R. suck? I think we should have articles to tell people to stop getting people pissed off if they think that their game sucks. Who knows, maybe by insulting an author of a game for making a game you didn't like, he\she gets discouraged and desides to stop creating games. And IF he\she had continued making games, he\her may have gone on to create a superb game that everyone likes including yourself and you missed out on it because your stupid self had to go and call him a dumbass for unleashing his\her terrorist attack on DC. Well, I suppose that everything is supposed to have a purpose, but still, that doesn't mean you should act like a jackass all the damn time. If the person makes such a crappy game, it's like the articles, if you don't like it, don't play it. Granted, maybe banning is a little too harsh, but still. I'm sure that we all could just get along, can't we? So instead of crying about games you don't like from now on, just shut your damn mouth. Maybe we should put that as a quote in the download section. In big ass bold letters "SHUT YOUR DAMN MOUTH, OR WILL KILL YOU!". And if anyone tells me that I should shut up and move this into an article or another forum, then you can just shove it!
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