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Aali [Crazy_Productions]



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9th July, 2003 at 09:38:44 -

Yep it is, don't even try to argue!



what are you waiting for?!?!?! go get it!!!

 
"If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution."
-- Linus Torvalds, December 5th 2003.

(Darl McBride is CEO of The SCO Group)


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9th July, 2003 at 09:42:49 -

what is it like?

 
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dave_c_version1



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9th July, 2003 at 10:18:31 -

i hear its as stable as mac (maybe more) and it has all the shiny happy little flashy effects all over the place. cant u even install it on your comp, run windows then restart into linux mode or something??? thats what i heard....anyways the last i checked it was around 900mb download so no thanks...i'll stick with my blue screen errors and illegal operations...

 
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pr0



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9th July, 2003 at 10:42:00 -

what version on linux? theres at least 20 distributions...

 
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9th July, 2003 at 10:51:34 -

My dad always installs a new version of linux (either RedHat or some other version (can't remember any of them) on his computer every few months. Eventually it does nothing useful so he erases it. Repeat.

 
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Cybermaze



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9th July, 2003 at 11:17:10 -

Well to say that Linux is gods gift to computers would be to exaggerate.

Its still quite difficult to install (well some versions are) and there is a stackering high number of different releases (Red Hat etc.). So which one to use???

And you can of course kiss most of your applications goodbuy. They dont work. So find some other ones. Or try emulation mode (slow?). Well allright I can get another office program but then what about my 200 Word documents???

Linux is a operating system like any other with excactly the same problems. System craches, bugs etc.

Im not saying its worse than Microsoft Windows ... on the other hand its really not better.

Ive never tried it myself (but do of course know persons who have) because I never saw any apperant advantages.

Both Windows 2000 and Windows Xp appears to be very stable. No more blue screen. So Im not going to change anytime soon...

 
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9th July, 2003 at 12:29:23 -

i agree, XP is very stable. any crashes i have are because of third party software. no more blue screens of death, either.

 
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9th July, 2003 at 13:38:40 -

Hmmm, "Stable as Mac." They forced us to use Macs sometimes at college, and 'stable' isn't a word I'd use to describe MacOS. Yeah, and I agree Windows XP is generally quite stable.

 
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Aali [Crazy_Productions]



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9th July, 2003 at 15:06:58 -

whoa! feedback'o'rama

1. i have red hat 8.0 (and i plan to get some other too just too see what they're like)

2. the download is 650 * 5 (5 cd's) but it's more than worth it (and you can always order the cd's if you have 56k)

3. >>Cybermaze: how can you say all that bad if you've never tried it?

4. if you say that XP is stable... you haven't seen much outside of Bill Gates world!

5. >>dave_c: partly correct; you can have both windows and linux installed at the same time. All you need is a boot loader (GRUB,LILO or whatever) that allows you to choose which system to boot.

6. linux is nothing like windows or macos, it's a UNIX; a multi-user system with privilege hierarchy, remote login protocols, unique web hosting abilities and so much more!


find out more about UNIX:es at www.thenewbiesarea.com

 
"If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution."
-- Linus Torvalds, December 5th 2003.

(Darl McBride is CEO of The SCO Group)


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Aali [Crazy_Productions]



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9th July, 2003 at 15:20:10 -

http://www.thenewbiesarea.com/texts/unix/rad-etnic.htm

it's old so don't trust the numbers, but it's the most important things you need to know

 
"If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution."
-- Linus Torvalds, December 5th 2003.

(Darl McBride is CEO of The SCO Group)


this place sucks but don't tell anyone, it's our little secret, ok?

Mr Saturn



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9th July, 2003 at 15:23:03 -

Linux is good except it has two huge flaws which cause me not to use it.

1. It is much less user friendly than Windows. Windows XP's user interface is extremely refined, the interface that RedHat uses is not that good.

2. Not enough software support. I can't play games on Linux and I can't use Multimedia Fusion on Linux. I can't even view certain websites properly without IE. Don't get started on emulation, it is way to buggy and slow for my taste.

I would be willing to put up with number 1, but number 2 is a really big flaw in my opinion. XP is plenty stable, maybe not as stable as Linux but it is still very stable (I have only had it freeze up once). For me, I see no good reason to move to Linux. For a business it might make sense because MS charges such high fees per computer.

 
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Cybermaze



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9th July, 2003 at 15:31:56 -

"3. >>Cybermaze: how can you say all that bad if you've never tried it?"

Please read my post:"Ive never tried it myself (but do of course know persons who have)".

And its people I see as equally good or better at operating a computer than I am.

It depends of course of what you use your computer to do.

But both programs and games are much more available on Windows than Linux. And Im satisfied with the stability I get with both Windows 2000 as well as Xp. Crashes are unheard of. Xp has freezed but it is clearly due to a third party freeware program I use. I can just deactivate it.

 
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Aali [Crazy_Productions]



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9th July, 2003 at 15:33:52 -

did you really expect your windows programs to work under linux???????

games and stuff is not the world of linux....

1. it's illegal to make any money on linux sofware

2. if someone decide to make a piece of software they'll do it just because they think it would be useful, not just to make cash

 
"If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution."
-- Linus Torvalds, December 5th 2003.

(Darl McBride is CEO of The SCO Group)


this place sucks but don't tell anyone, it's our little secret, ok?

Aali [Crazy_Productions]



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9th July, 2003 at 15:36:44 -

the only reason to why you dont think there's less software for linux is that you'll never find it in ads or stores

 
"If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution."
-- Linus Torvalds, December 5th 2003.

(Darl McBride is CEO of The SCO Group)


this place sucks but don't tell anyone, it's our little secret, ok?

Cybermaze



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9th July, 2003 at 15:39:12 -

"games and stuff is not the world of linux...."

What IS the world of Linux???

"1. it's illegal to make any money on linux sofware"

No its not. But the "hype" in the Linux world is open source.

"2. if someone decide to make a piece of software they'll do it just because they think it would be useful, not just to make cash"

So you mean Click Team made KNP, TGF, MMF etc just to make money??? Not because the program is useful???

 
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Cybermaze



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9th July, 2003 at 15:42:51 -

"the only reason to why you dont think there's less software for linux is that you'll never find it in ads or stores"

I dont think theres less software to Linux than Windows. I DO think theres less. And the software that IS there is mostly made by amateurs or semiprofessionals.

 
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Aali [Crazy_Productions]



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9th July, 2003 at 15:46:05 -

no i don't... i believe the guys at clickteam think it's a useful piece of software, and it is, BUT if clickteam didn't make any money, they would have to close down; they depend on money, they depend on that the software they make is bought because they need the money to keep going

it is illegal if it's GNU licensed (and everything is)

the world of linux (and any UNIX) is the internet - the real world

 
"If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution."
-- Linus Torvalds, December 5th 2003.

(Darl McBride is CEO of The SCO Group)


this place sucks but don't tell anyone, it's our little secret, ok?

Dogzer



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9th July, 2003 at 16:13:28 -

linux is the most stable OS there is.. but until I dont have a bunch of software that works for linux right here on my table I wont upgrade my comp to linux.. Aali: is there any software like Jamagic for Linux?

 
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Klikmaster

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9th July, 2003 at 17:07:43 -

I dont know much about linux, but why have it if windows works perfectly well?

 
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Muggus

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10th July, 2003 at 02:58:18 -

You overclocked my processor! GLAVEN!

Linux eh...yes...stability is good...I remember the DOS days.
Windows 98 does have issues, but i'm not enough of a computer person to want or need something else...Muggus's two cents!

If it's not broken, why fix it!

 
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dave_c_version1



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10th July, 2003 at 10:30:38 -

linux has a pretty damn flashy style to it overall, its prettier than windows... and lets be honest, who here actually likes bill gates??? if linux could run anything that windows could of course i would use it...but it can't so at the moment windows is BETTER than linux BUT, i reckon in say, 5 or 10 years time...LINUX and its open source idea could possibly overthrow microsoft...think about it...any competition in the past bill gates has just baught out, but he cant buy out linux.

no ones like micro$oft, their money hungry bastards...BRING ON THE FREE OS, FREE OFFICE TOOLS, FREE...other stuff etc etc.

it should be noted tho...i have win98...and i hear xp is 1000 times better...my computer is SHIT...yep

 
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Aali [Crazy_Productions]



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10th July, 2003 at 11:19:24 -

you're all talking like windows can run anything and that makes it superior to linux, but windows can't run anything that's not made for running under windows so they're equal on that point (linux is really better actually cos it can run stuff made for other UNIX:es like BSD)

 
"If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution."
-- Linus Torvalds, December 5th 2003.

(Darl McBride is CEO of The SCO Group)


this place sucks but don't tell anyone, it's our little secret, ok?

Cybermaze



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11th July, 2003 at 15:44:46 -

dave_c_version1:"no ones like micro$oft, their money hungry bastards...BRING ON THE FREE OS, FREE OFFICE TOOLS, FREE...other stuff etc etc."

Sure, lets all work for free in the future!!! No more paying if I want a car, I just ask the car maker for one. And of course I will build houses for free, anyone want a new house???

 
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Mr Saturn



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11th July, 2003 at 17:55:37 -

Let me put it this way: If you walk into a store and grab some random software, their is a 95 percent chance that its for Windows. Even most Linux people dual boot with Windows because they pretty much have too.

 
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dave_c_version1



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11th July, 2003 at 23:16:27 -

listen aali mate, bill gates has enough money to end world hunger for like, 50 years or something and he still feels the need to re-release the same old buggy software with a different name for unfairly high prices...look at microsoft office, isn't that like $300???

 
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Cybermaze



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12th July, 2003 at 04:49:28 -

If world hunger could be stopped by money alone, it probably allready would have been.

Bill Gates has a lot of money and his products are not cheap, no, but the latest Windows versions are nice...

 
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12th July, 2003 at 14:33:33 -

I've crashed linux so much it's not even funny..ok it is, but I still crashed it..

 
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12th July, 2003 at 14:40:00 -

Ok, people can sell programs for linux, technically, the program IS their code, so they can copywrite it and sell it, however, if it deals with the main kernel (changing or modifying) then it cannot be sold as the kernel is OPEN SOURCE. Of course, nowadays some companies are not charging for linux but the actual download (I'm looking in your direction Red Hat). While linux does have far fewer programs I do find some to be invaluable, like the one that lets me watch DVD's through my CD-Rom That's a damned useful program, and all the base unix networking commands are also extremely helpful, but now I'm just rambling on so I'll stop.

 
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12th July, 2003 at 14:57:11 -

dave_c: If people felt like that they wouldn't buy it.

 
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12th July, 2003 at 15:06:24 -

Most Office application suites are that expensive or very close.

 
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Aali [Crazy_Productions]



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12th July, 2003 at 15:10:56 -

OpenOffice: 0$

 
"If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution."
-- Linus Torvalds, December 5th 2003.

(Darl McBride is CEO of The SCO Group)


this place sucks but don't tell anyone, it's our little secret, ok?

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13th July, 2003 at 12:19:41 -

Hence the "Most" part I put in there.

 
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14th July, 2003 at 09:47:07 -

yeh yeh i was just crapping on but to make a better point of what i was saying... microsoft are pretty much a monopoly in the industry, so how can they justify selling Mircrosoft Publisher!?!?!?!, that program is a disgrace to everything ever, its buggy as hell, laggy and the worst thing of all is that there is nothing u can do in publisher that u cant do in microsoft word...RIP OFF

 
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Aali [Crazy_Productions]



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14th July, 2003 at 12:03:48 -

Hence the "" part I put in there.

 
"If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution."
-- Linus Torvalds, December 5th 2003.

(Darl McBride is CEO of The SCO Group)


this place sucks but don't tell anyone, it's our little secret, ok?

Shen

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14th July, 2003 at 13:57:04 -

And there's nothing you can't do in Word that you can't do by plotting every pixel of it in Paint. It just makes it easier.

 
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Aali [Crazy_Productions]



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14th July, 2003 at 14:42:26 -

true but publisher isn't even easier

 
"If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution."
-- Linus Torvalds, December 5th 2003.

(Darl McBride is CEO of The SCO Group)


this place sucks but don't tell anyone, it's our little secret, ok?

Shen

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14th July, 2003 at 14:54:37 -

It is if you can use it right

Besides it's only in the special pro version of Office, well it was the last time I looked.

 
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14th July, 2003 at 16:27:38 -

I haven't had any problems with XP

 
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Cybermaze



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14th July, 2003 at 16:49:09 -

If you think Word can do the as publisher then you havent looked properly in both programs.

Publisher can do so much more than Word.

Word is for letters, stories etc.

Publisher is for ... well ... publishing.

You can place text and pictures etc. freely on your page and link text frames so the text automatically spans over the text frames. Text can not only be left/right/center aligned. It can also be aligned to fill the with of every line by adjusting the space between letters and words dynamically.

On top of that (and much more) Publisher can produce CMYK plates. Profesional copying is made by applying plates on the paper each with their part of the CMYK colors. Publisher can work with PostScript fonts (profesionals use these) and much much more.

 
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14th July, 2003 at 18:07:26 -

what windows users usually say: "get a real computer!" well my computer is real.. its also 450mhz... and I dont have any money..
What Im trying to say is that if a)"you have a shitty computer" or b)"you use your computer to the limit" you'll start having problems with windows.. it doesnt matter its windows 2000 XP or NT... only then you'll start looking at linux with good eyes.

 
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Mr Saturn



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16th July, 2003 at 09:51:36 -

Well, I play games which do push your computer to the limit and XP works fine. Of course I can't say how well it works on a 450 MHZ computer. I don't think I could stand using a computer that slow on Linux or Windows.

 
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