never heard of Dogzer. but some of the extreme bullies on the GMG I just mentioned, had released respectable games. not all of them probably.
Although not releasing games makes it easier to pass them off as "just a troll", releasing games shouldnt make bullying any more tolerable.
It should. We can ban members that just troll and don't produce content for the community. Those that do produce content, we feel much worse when we ban them.
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Originally Posted by Jacob! It should. We can ban members that just troll and don't produce content for the community. Those that do produce content, we feel much worse when we ban them.
So you're telling me.... that if someone calls me really hurtful names repeatedly, and even gets ahold of my phone number and harasses me, that releasing a well-made game should make that tolerable? Because that is what these bullies I mentioned did to me! I didn't feel welcomed at that community, nor did I even feel safe. Yet these members were extremely respected. It shouldnt matter how popular they are, or what games they have made. Bullies are bullies.
In my opinion trolls are also bullies, but these people did far more than troll.
And just fyi, having to ban them WOULD be a shame. But protecting the community should come first.
And its also protecting the community's reputation. Because obviously, if the admins had done something to make me feel safe from bullies of the highest level, I wouldn't be here complaining about them. I wouldn't tell every friend I talk to not to use their site, because its such a hellhole.
Dialga-Brite TDC is pretty nice compared to some other places online, this place used to be a lot worse as Phred stated. Apart from one member, it was never really meant to hurt anyone though.
There are a couple of trolls but the other people on here are good people . I think the Clickteam forums are as dull as dishwater, and I refuse to prove that I own MMF2 just from a belief standpoint (I refuse to accept ID cards or carry one!).
So far no one here has really treated me badly. I just don't like the idea though, of getting away with bullying due to how well accomplished you are. Priests are considered holy and good, but sometimes they molest people! The politicians are supposed to serve the constitution, they are also in a high government position, but they often put their selfish wants first. Get my point? But as long as its not allowed to go far like I mentioned, I guess its okay.
And in defense of clickteam's forums. Poeple there have been extremely helpful to me. In fact I can think of at least 5 or six topics where people have given me valid help for my Meloetta game, that actually solved something!
I actually like the badges, theyre cool to look at and they remind me of how proud I am to own both MMF and its add-ons. I CAN understand the possibility of people being worried about security there, but I don't know what to say to them really. In my opinion they are a little paranoid, but its still understandable. Maybe all that's needed perhaps is for clickteam to explain to them why/how its more secure than they think.
The clickteam forums are far better for getting help with your games, and anything else with MMF2. It's just a more professional community, so it's hardly going to be as fun as TDC. As for the serial number registration, I don't see a problem with it. I would much rather help a user that I know paid for their copy of MMF2 than one that just pirated it. Plus, it keeps people like Fordom away. Before, when users would post issues with updating, the only responses they got were to contact Clickteam with their serial number (and be detected as a pirate). Now, we can publically see who has purchased the copy and actually give relevant help and information. If a user only owns TGF, we won't suggest they use a certain extension, since TGF can't use them. When products are added to a user's account, they also gain special access to certain forums, such as Owner's Lounges (with access to betas and other info) and exporter beta forums. I think it's a great addition.
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If a serial number is obtained illegally, can it not still be registered?
Because you make it sound like it can't be.
How exactly does the system know its illegal?
I am still fundamentally against proving my innocence. Why should I even bother to take a few minutes of my time to prove I own MMF2 (Considering I have been to the convention). It should be CT's job to find my name and check if I own a copy (if they wish to do so), not mine.
It looks kind of sad that a company has nothing better to do than ensure people on the forum are legit - time that could have been spent far more wisely, perhaps on MMF3? I find the implementation of the serial system odd too; I can ask for technical help without a serial but not have a chat and ask general questions? Bizarre!
If you are going to have a serial system, issue a demo serial - that way you could at least implement the system with some logic behind it.
Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat.
I would say the best contributors in terms of using MMF2 are on TDC and not CT. Some of the most impressive examples and articles IMO have come from two TDC members in particular.
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Actually, I think that way is more logical. Because if demo users have a problem with the program that doesnt get solved, theyre less likely to decide to buy it. The more "social" parts though, means you are more a part of them.
Clickteam has more than one person, and they have more than one thing to do. Sure, they could have all been working on MMF3, but seeing as Jeff isn't a programmer and he's the one that runs the forum, his work was far better placed there. There are countless times in which we've found that longtime users of the program are pirates. If they aren't going to contribute to the company, I have no interest in helping them. You have every right to be against proving your innocence. You also have every right to not spend time at the Clickteam forums, much in the same way a person who doesn't believe in paying taxes gets no social support. If you don't want to prove that you put money into Clickteam, and by extension, the community, then you don't get the benefits.
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. I think the Clickteam forums are as dull as dishwater, and I refuse to prove that I own MMF2 just from a belief standpoint (I refuse to accept ID cards or carry one!).
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