I would consider a jingle a form of music, but not necessarily art. Art typically has to be an expression of something, while you could argue "I WANT MONEY" is something you could express, personally I wouldn't consider it a very favorable expression.
On the other end, someone mentioned art that is trying to be art, honestly when I hear the phrase "trying to be art" it usually seems as if they don't actually understand what art is, and they are just grasping at straws hoping someone will pick up something on it, in other words, they aren't really expressing anything either.
The best art, in my opinion, comes from experience. If you haven't had any life experience that builds you as a person, like if you've had everything handed to you your entire life, then yeah, you're probably going to have a hard time expressing anything creative. However, there very well may be someone who fits that criteria that still excels at expressing themselves (usually due to some other deep seeded trait). Would you consider a singer who has no part in the writing portion of their music an artist? (I think they've actually changed the term to "entertainer" or something like that).
But it all comes back to "it depends". The hard part about having an opinion is that if something comes along to challenge it, most people will stick to their guns. There is no such thing as an absolute truth, and everything is subject to change, especially something as abstract as the concept of art.
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Some games are art in my opinion, but it really depends on the game.
Talking of art, I do think there is a fine line between art and complete drivel. In my 1st year of my degree I had a free module so I chose design and graphics (more women than engineering!).
The lecturer showed us an "art" film where potatoes walked around and moved themselves to another basket, bread sticks got up in the middle of the night, and lumps of coal was line dancing. Good stop motion but what was the point? The lecturer asked what we thought of it and someone shouted "A load of b*ll*cks", she just stormed out of the lecture hall... I miss my time as an undergraduate
I think it was Scott McCloud who said that anything not for survival or reproduction is art. However, I do not think all games are good art, but nonetheless, they are part of an art form.
Go into my head, then come back out and tell me I'm wrong.
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