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7th June, 2010 at 12:06:57 -

Problem with the current rating system:
- No anonymosity. Rating something bad because you don't like it (a valid reason) means that people would report and attack you.
- Opposite with articles.. you can rate something 0 for no reason and nobody will know.
- If you or your game/article has a lot of fanboys/haters, then they'll be rating
- If you give a completely honest 2-4 star rating, your vote is practically wasted.
- Really good games score lower than somewhat good games because of higher expectations.

No matter what system you give, someone will try to break it, and people will be upset when it's broken. The best rating system for TDC would be something that lets people be honest but is hard to abuse.

So, I think instead of adding them all up and dividing them, it'd be best to just display how people voted for them. We don't show that this game has a 2.9 star rating, we show that it has 8 voting 5 stars, 4 voting 4 stars, 1 voting 2 stars, and 10 voting 0 stars. That way, you can make your own judgement about what the game is worth.

Drawback is that it's hard to simplify into what it's really worth.

 
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7th June, 2010 at 14:46:25 -

You do have a point. I won't rate a game that I don't think deserves less than 4 stars for fear they'll do the same thing to one of my games. And that's not a good way to go about stuff.

I actually give a lot of props to those who DO vote 1 or 2 stars on a game, they're just being honest after all.

 
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7th June, 2010 at 14:54:31 -

Bah, who really cares about ratings!

I like it the way it is.

 
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7th June, 2010 at 18:21:39 -

This is just an idea... discuss it a little, but what if we gave people the ability to choose what game types they preferred and then that would effect how much voting power they have against games of those types.
It sounds like it could be easily broken, but it also sounds like if the majority of the website takes it seriously, we could outweigh it.

 
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8th June, 2010 at 01:11:44 -

I don't really download that many games anymore anyway and the ones i do download are all 4-5 star games. If a lot of other people on here are like me, then ratings don't really matter, just download count.

 
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8th June, 2010 at 14:07:45 -

It works fine enough for people downloading the game, but just thought it'd be more helpful feedback for those who are getting rated It also caters for both the people who don't want a 0 star rating and those who want it. And it reduces damages from all the 0 star ratings, which the really superb ones get a lot.



Originally Posted by SiLVERFIRE
This is just an idea... discuss it a little, but what if we gave people the ability to choose what game types they preferred and then that would effect how much voting power they have against games of those types.


Decent idea, but I can't really see what it'd add to the system. It sounds like it has the same effect as the favorites system.

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8th June, 2010 at 16:21:33 -

Umm.......The games rating should be based on half user votes and half good reviewer votes(like an admin or something).

 
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10th June, 2010 at 00:37:14 -

Scrap the ratings all together, or have a like/dislike option.

 
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10th June, 2010 at 02:33:14 -

Actually this has come up recently and all I can say for now is that we are working on improving this.

 
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10th June, 2010 at 02:52:07 -

bah rikus, i think it's fine the way it is. Ratings are no big deal really.

 
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10th June, 2010 at 03:07:39 -

I'd go for a like/dislike option as -Adam- suggested. Maybe leave rating only on the reviews, since there you have to justify your ratings.

 
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10th June, 2010 at 03:14:14 -


Originally Posted by A. Lino
I'd go for a like/dislike option as -Adam- suggested. Maybe leave rating only on the reviews, since there you have to justify your ratings.

But this is what we had before the 5star rating thing... because of that system.

 
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10th June, 2010 at 03:31:05 -

Exactly Lambert, people will never be happy so lets not even bother. Ratings are no big deal anyway.

 
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What if you had the ability to buy a golden rating sticker which gave you more DC points for rating and reviewing but it gets revoked if you write too many rotten reviews or don't do it at least half as many times as there are downloads that week, per week. I don't know, I'm just trying to think outside the box.

 
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10th June, 2010 at 10:50:03 -

Idea: How about, in addition to keeping the current rating system, we also allow people to view detailed information about how people voted for the game, as Muz suggested in the first post.

So it would look something like this:

Example Game

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5 4 3 2 1 0

Overall rating: 2.9 / 5


Basically, what I'm trying to say is that we could just stick a bar graph next to the overall rating to see how the votes are spread out, since the average by itself doesn't really say much.

 

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10th June, 2010 at 11:14:41 -

Perhaps not have any. The only way to rate is to review.

 
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15th June, 2010 at 06:48:37 -

Lol, the "only review" system was even older than the "like/dislike" system.

 
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15th June, 2010 at 14:44:10 -

Why not just remove download pages then, that way there will never be any problems!

 
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