Today I updated Firefox to 3.5. Three out of four times of visiting my TDC inbox it's crashed, when trying to open my latest mail. Anyone else using firefox get this problem?
I tried upgrading to FireFox 3.5 about a month or two ago and downgraded because it didn't support the Glasser extension I use to make the titlebar transparent with aero. I love how it seems like every time a program gets popular, give or take a few years, the updates just get bigger and bigger and start to completely screw up what we originally loved about the program.
Yep firefox has been useless for some time for me on numerous PC's. Especially where there is PDF's involved (tried adobe and foxit no use!), and reading PDF's is something I do extremely often (journals, datasheets etc) Not too sure why PDF's effect it, maybe its in conjunction with something else but other browsers dont have this problem.
Firefox 3.5 freezes for a bit when I visit the mail page now - probably because there are like 700+ messages to load up, but I'm sure it was never as bad with the previous version of firefox. It's never crashed though, just frozen for a few seconds and then it's fine.
I'm on 2 as well, 3.5 froze my new mac book after it was stated for the first time, and I could figure out how to close it so I just took out the battery.
I went back to 2 and everything was fine!
it might have just been a dialog box or something open in the background though.
Why does it seem like most forum topics involving software problems, all seem to have at least one person who assumes that the operating system has anything to do with the problem. Especially since that assumption is usually proven wrong?
Very rarely does newer software crash because of the OS a person is using. I run XP, Ubuntu, Vista, and Mac OS. They all run open source software the same.
Some older software doesn't work on Vista but that's to be expected. Hopefully Microsoft fixes this with Windows 7 like they promised though.
And to be on topic: Firefox!
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I'm on Vista and Firefox 3.5 is running fine. The only problem I had was that one of my favourite extensions (Abduction for screen capturing) wasn't supported. It has since been updated and I've had no problems.
"Why does it seem like most forum topics involving software problems, all seem to have at least one person who assumes that the operating system has anything to do with the problem. Especially since that assumption is usually proven wrong?"
why do you assume theyre making assumptions? especially when if i had said mac or linux you probably wouldnt have given a shit because you defend vista like a little fanboy every time someone says something negative about it.
if you could actually read, i said that it was running fine on linux and xp on all of my computers(5 total). now i dont use vista so i was asking/suggesting that that could be a problem. especially when yes, the os can have everything to do with software running or not. especially when dealing with 64bit and 32bit architecture differences (if youre running a 64bit os).
How can anyone be a fanboy of vista ? 7 is not to bad, and XP is not too bad but Vista????
I run ubuntu/XP on my main box/ win 7 on another box and Vista on my laptop (soon to be formatted and XP put on). Firefox 2 on my other PC's never crashes, i may revert to it on my main box.
I've been using Firefox for ages, it seems to be the most stable browser for me. I used Safari 4 (windows) for a while, but that was shocking - it crashes nearly all the time.
Firefox has been the most crash happy browser I've ever used. It got so bad on my new machine that I've switched to Safari and haven't had a crash since (32bit XP). Never had a crash for Safari, Firefox or Opera in OSX I must say.
When I used Firefox a good while ago (and for a short time, as you'll see) it crashed without fail at least once every three times I opened it. It was probably my machine, but since other browsers worked acceptably on it, it left a bad taste in my mouth. I'm just not a fan in general of Firefox. It feels clunky (and crashy) to me. Not to mention the fact that almost every experienced computer user (minus the Opera, Safari and Chrome users, still in the minority) act like it's such a godsend. Bandwagon thing, I guess, because I don't see it.
Originally Posted by cEcil = MC^2 "Why does it seem like most forum topics involving software problems, all seem to have at least one person who assumes that the operating system has anything to do with the problem. Especially since that assumption is usually proven wrong?"
why do you assume theyre making assumptions? especially when if i had said mac or linux you probably wouldnt have given a shit because you defend vista like a little fanboy every time someone says something negative about it.
if you could actually read, i said that it was running fine on linux and xp on all of my computers(5 total). now i dont use vista so i was asking/suggesting that that could be a problem. especially when yes, the os can have everything to do with software running or not. especially when dealing with 64bit and 32bit architecture differences (if youre running a 64bit os).
Do you think it could be less about being a "fanboy" and more about putting ignorance in it's place? I've never had a single Vista related issue, so God forbid I should reassure people against others who seem to think it's rattled with nothing but problems, that such a fabrication is absurd.
Originally Posted by cEcil = MC^2 "Why does it seem like most forum topics involving software problems, all seem to have at least one person who assumes that the operating system has anything to do with the problem. Especially since that assumption is usually proven wrong?"
why do you assume theyre making assumptions? especially when if i had said mac or linux you probably wouldnt have given a shit because you defend vista like a little fanboy every time someone says something negative about it.
if you could actually read, i said that it was running fine on linux and xp on all of my computers(5 total). now i dont use vista so i was asking/suggesting that that could be a problem. especially when yes, the os can have everything to do with software running or not. especially when dealing with 64bit and 32bit architecture differences (if youre running a 64bit os).
Do you think it could be less about being a "fanboy" and more about putting ignorance in it's place? I've never had a single Vista related issue, so God forbid I should reassure people against others who seem to think it's rattled with nothing but problems, that such a fabrication is absurd.
I think the point he was making was that it could have been a vista issue - he didn't say it was one.
Silverfire Vista is slow even on Core 2 duo (laptop) or Core 2 Quad (my desktop) compared to XP/Win 7 or Ubuntu. Plus its 99% useless if you are a hardware developer. Not one of 6 tools i use works with it . N.b. before you ask I do have lots of ram on both machines...
Win 7 no probs so far touchwood, but vista . I also detest Office 2007 (why oh why change Office???) but thats another story...
I've had problems with 64bit Vista on our new PC. Explorer locked up twice, but I do like that it realises its locked up and reopens it unlike XP. I've never had a problem with either Vista or XP on my macs but I am using some very well built drivers for them. S'all in the drivers.
Also hmmm.
"I think the point he was making was that it could have been a vista issue - he didn't say it was one."
exactly
and on topic. if firefox is giving you trouble try out Flock, Chrome, or Safari. Flock is a mozilla based browser very similar to mozilla. Chrome is the fastest browser. and Safari is sexy.
196 MB of RAM? Seriously? I don't even know what kind of programming inefficiency it takes to use up 196 MB of RAM for a browser. How the hell does something swell to use up 100 times more space? I just hope it's more efficient than XP in the sense of RAM bandwidth.
Anyway, since Adam's not using Vista, it's probably not the problem. Likely a corrupt installation program or some kind of malfunctioning browser add-on. I prefer Chrome myself, nice and quick.. but I usually use Firefox for the stability. If it's crashing a lot.. maybe a full reinstall or switch to Chrome
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I had the good fortune of tidying up a brand new bloatware-filled computer for someone today. I installed both Firefox and Chrome on the fresh system. Firefox keeps freezing and refusing to do anything, while both Chrome and IE seem to be working fine. I think it's a bit of an issue with this version and I bet you it will be resolved soon if enough people complain.
muz im not sure thats a vista issue. depending on how many tabs you have open it can get pretty high on any system. i opened my entire indie game bookmark folder (19 sites) and it went up to 250,000kb and dropped to 243,000kb once they all loaded completely.
omc i just recently installed xp oem. updated it completely to sp3 and all other major windows updates. ran fine. im sure its a problem with something else that the common computer user also uses. something running in the background. although ive yet to have any problems with firefox post 3.0. id use chrome but its just too bland for my taste.
When my computer has been on for too long, Firefox starts eating up a ridiculous amount of CPU when it's downloading or opening a page. It makes everything else on my computer lag, like music players. Sometimes even mouse movements. I don't know if this has to do with my slow-ass laptop or Firefox itself. I think it already did this before 3.5 came out.
Other than that, I've also become dependant on Adblock, so I'm not giving up Firefox yet.
Originally Posted by cEcil = MC^2 muz im not sure thats a vista issue. depending on how many tabs you have open it can get pretty high on any system. i opened my entire indie game bookmark folder (19 sites) and it went up to 250,000kb and dropped to 243,000kb once they all loaded completely.
omc i just recently installed xp oem. updated it completely to sp3 and all other major windows updates. ran fine. im sure its a problem with something else that the common computer user also uses. something running in the background. although ive yet to have any problems with firefox post 3.0. id use chrome but its just too bland for my taste.
Well, then Firefox sucks I just opened 4 tabs there, two of TDC, the other of Hotmail and Photobucket. Certainly not 19 sites! What the hell does it have to put in its cache? I keep close track of my memory and bandwidth usage, and 200 MB is about half a month of total use. Chrome appears to use less, but it seems to access the memory separately for each instant, so it's a bit of a trick. Vista also loads like 60 MB for opening a simple document.
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well depending on what you have in your browser it could be different.
im almost tempted to uninstall and reinstall firefox to see what a fresh install of it uses.
your pc memory usage is quite different from your bandwidth also. i wouldnt worry about how much RAM firefox is using when tracking your bandwidth usage. its propably just for having all your settings, cookies, cache, bookmarks, history, etc etc etc loaded when firefox is running.
we live in an age where 2 to 4 gigs of ram is commonplace. firefox using 250,000kb+ is nothing, especially when considering i almost will never have 19 tabs open at the same time. hardly 5 probably. if its using so much ram just having 4 open then im willing to bet vista probably has something to do with it, if not just a little bit. either that or you have a crapload of bookmarks and history.
Originally Posted by cEcil = MC^2 omc i just recently installed xp oem. updated it completely to sp3 and all other major windows updates. ran fine. im sure its a problem with something else that the common computer user also uses. something running in the background. although ive yet to have any problems with firefox post 3.0. id use chrome but its just too bland for my taste.
I did a thorough check. I was the first to boot the machine and I uninstalled all the bloatware (HP tools) checked the process manager and cleaned up folders all over the place. It was as good as clean. And I disabled all the fancy themes to make it run faster.
"And I disabled all the fancy themes to make it run faster. "
that could ACTUALLY be the problem. for some reason if you disable all the theme features and effects etc, it can mess with some programs. construct in particular. but that one only seemed to mess with the actual themes within construct, like panel tabs, etc.
I disabled the themes after it didn't work well. Same results. I installed a fresh copy of windows this morning but I haven't put firefox on it. It doesn't really matter since it's my grandma's and she doesn't need a blazing computer.
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(journals, datasheets etc) Not too sure why PDF's effect it, maybe its in conjunction with something else but other browsers dont have this problem.
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. I also detest Office 2007 (why oh why change Office???) but thats another story...
