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23rd July, 2009 at 09:21:17 -

has been getting some coverage on some mainstream sites for a recent experiment of his to map zelda dungeons into his 3d construct engine, which he started for his entry in the ludum dare 14 competition, standard waiver
http://www.ludumdare.com/compo/category/ld14/?tag=final+final&mythumb_nav=1
http://www.create-games.com/download.asp?id=7694
http://www.ludumdare.com/compo/author/radix/

links to sites mentioning radix's fps zelda:
http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=8999094&publicUserId=5379721
http://kotaku.com/5320756/if-zelda-was-first+person-and-in-3d
http://www.destructoid.com/fan-project-brings-the-legend-of-zelda-to-the-3rd-dimension-140655.phtml

why has this not been front paged yet?

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Why would it be front paged?

 
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because its radix. its interesting. its relevant. why WOULDNT it be?

 
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23rd July, 2009 at 10:44:07 -

He hasn't exactly posted much to do with it here himself, why you expect all this to be front paged here, I don't know

 
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23rd July, 2009 at 10:56:10 -

cause stuff like this is worth mentioning. stuff far less worth a front page mention gets it all the time.

he hasnt posted because all stuff related can be found at tigsource forums, and it isnt exactly done.

 
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23rd July, 2009 at 11:02:14 -

Your expectant attitude annoys me- this is TDC not TIGSource, and you know that news from outside the TDC/CT communities rarely gets a front page mention here. Granted that kinda sucks, but I'm still failing to see why you're surprised by this.

If you think it deserves a mention pm an admin or something.

 
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23rd July, 2009 at 11:33:03 -

Technically impressive but.. I wonder if I'm missing out on something here. I like my Zelda in 2D. I'm just not all that excited about it. *shrug*

 
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23rd July, 2009 at 11:47:22 -

wow adam, i dont expect anything. my comment about the front page had nothing to do with my expectations. it had everything to do with me wondering why no one else noticed this yet.

why do you take the most irrelevant part of a post and decide to comment on that? instead of commenting on the topic at hand. something interesting is going on, created by one of our own, albeit often inactive, members. why not say what you think about what radix is doing? i think its interesting. it might not be the most innovative things, but its definitely noteworthy.

 
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23rd July, 2009 at 11:49:18 -

I have to say that I agree with Adam on this one, albeit in a far less harsh way! PM an admin if you think it's newsworthy

 
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23rd July, 2009 at 14:35:30 -

It'll always be front paged in my book Cecil.

 
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23rd July, 2009 at 14:40:48 -


Originally Posted by cEcil = MC^2
wow adam, i dont expect anything. my comment about the front page had nothing to do with my expectations. it had everything to do with me wondering why no one else noticed this yet.

why do you take the most irrelevant part of a post and decide to comment on that? instead of commenting on the topic at hand. something interesting is going on, created by one of our own, albeit often inactive, members. why not say what you think about what radix is doing? i think its interesting. it might not be the most innovative things, but its definitely noteworthy.



Because I already saw all of it yesterday, and like Muz it doesn't excite me. This is how things in the indie games scene become vastly over-rated.

 
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23rd July, 2009 at 15:40:31 -

If it was like a fully 3D version of Links Awakening with a charming art style to match the original (hell keep it monochrome or 8bit) I'd be all chuffed. But my opinions sit with Muz's on this.

 
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23rd July, 2009 at 15:42:19 -

There are a few reasons (that I will keep to myself) why I would not personally front page this, but if another admin wants to, that would be cool!

 

  		
  		

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23rd July, 2009 at 16:07:50 -

this has been getting so much news on every site.. and its still very alpha o_O

 
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23rd July, 2009 at 16:35:08 -

Don't take cecils post as a reason *not* to front-page it!
Anything that is generating this much publicity outside of TDC about anything TDC/klik related, even this loosely, should get a shout. In this case, Radix appears to have been doing well!

 
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Thanks, Cecil-dude, but I haven't posted about it here at all and it's not really TDC related.

It's just a demo, not really frontpage material for anywhere yet. I'm surprised people are getting hyped so early.

When it's done I'll post it on TDC.

 
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Kinda low FPS on my machine, noticeably below 50
And the transparent pixels in your sprites don't show through to other sprites

I am thinking about updating my FPS engine in klik to use a lua script for faster speed, maybe a zelda level would be a good example :3

 
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Yeah, the alpha bug and speed issues are solved by the latest unstable Construct build, but it doesn't support a function I need to port the engine to it yet, so I'm waiting on the next update.

 
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Right you are Cecil. Radix has done some crazy things yet no frontpages. If I were an admin I would frontpage him.

 
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Originally Posted by Chris Street
I have to say that I agree with Adam on this one, albeit in a far less harsh way! PM an admin if you think it's newsworthy



I PMed Rikus about Radix's Standard waiver game. It was probably missed in amongst all the PMs Rikus gets per day.
Funnily enough I did that at the same time a certain someone made a huge fuss over the poor quality of front page games.

Anyway it's a great example of what Construct can do.

 
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24th July, 2009 at 01:22:10 -

np radix.

again i just want to say "i dont expect anything. my comment about the front page had nothing to do with my expectations. it had everything to do with me wondering why no one else noticed this yet."

whether or not it is front page worthy in your eyes or not, or whether you find the project "exciting" or not. its something that is very much noteworthy.

i dont much enjoy the actual gameplay or ddirection of it either, but i find it completely interesting at what radix is doing, in the same way i didnt really find standard waiver exciting and had a lot of problems with it, but i like that hes actually accomplishing something and in construct to boot. and for that, SOME sort of "hey look at this" is necessary. ala my post.



 
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Hey, just saw this by mistake really. If you want something front page pm me, if I dont reply back within 10 hours... dont be afraid to pm again! I read all the mail send to me but sometimes things overlap and gets lost in the shuffle when I log back on. So if nothing is done just make me aware and I shall carry out!

 
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Originally Posted by -Adam-
Why would it be front paged?



Why is every single comment Adam posts plain negative and always tries to bring people down / talk bad about people. Can't you just lose this attitude, PLEASE? It's hardly fun to read and nice and the DC would be a friendlier place without it.

 
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Originally Posted by MasterM

Originally Posted by -Adam-
Why would it be front paged?



Why is every single comment Adam posts plain negative and always tries to bring people down / talk bad about people. Can't you just lose this attitude, PLEASE? It's hardly fun to read and nice and the DC would be a friendlier place without it.



why do you have to complain about someone else on the internet?

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Because he's a sad, lonely little man (I use "man" very lightly).

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I just looked at Radix's profile and all of his downloads has been deleted!
Some of them are really brilliant too.

 
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Deleted them last night in a tantrum due to one of his games being rejected.

 
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Someone told me a funny story about Radix the other night.

 
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Whats that then?

			
  	    

 
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It was the type of game that was a bit sexual in nature if I Put it lightly. It was made for a compo, but it is the type of game we really cant put on the download page here.

Shame he had to delete his articles and games because of it.

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18th August, 2009 at 00:50:26 -

I expected that was the reason. Reminds me of when Shroomlock removed all of his games because he was "leaving" the community. Completely pointless.

 
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I removed my games because I've decided TDC isn't the right place to keep my games. It's apparently completely a children's site now, and I'm not G-Rated.

There are plenty of other shitty things the moderation staff do that have irritated over the years, but I haven't left in the past and I'm not planning to leave entirely now. However, if the site is going to censor my submissions list, there's no point in keeping my submissions here: users might see the games I've made but they won't be getting an accurate picture of my "portfolio".

That's it. I'm not upset or frustrated, something Rikus didn't seem to get in his messages to me, but it's been made clear that TDC isn't the kind of site I would want to support anymore.

As usual, ignore Adam.

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If you're perfectly happy removing all your content from TDC, because you don't wish to "support" it anymore, why kick up such a fuss about one of your downloads not being accepted, when you could just post it on TIGsource anyway like most of your recent projects?

You visit the site nearly every day, I'm pretty sure by now you know perfectly well that TDC has become more "family friendly" over the past couple of years

 
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It is a shame to loose some of the games that were deleted and all of the comments they got I think the games data and all of its comments are still in the database and I think club has tried put deleted games back before, if needed to be or if you ever change your mind, maybe something to think about Radix.



 
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Originally Posted by -Adam-
kick up such a fuss



First I removed the game I submitted at the same time, then I changed my mind and quietly deleted my past submissions and contacted Rikus to get rid of the stuff that doesn't have a delete button. I didn't even make a post about it until you painted me as "having a tantrum". And no, I visit TDC at most once a week now unless there's a discussion I'm following. Why are you such a drama queen, Adam? Don't you have anything better to do?


Rikus, I backed up the pages too, since yes it is definitely a bad thing to delete comments and it's unfortunate we can't have it both ways.

By the way, why did you edit my post and leave Adam's flamebaiting alone? The way he behaves would've gotten him permabanned from most sites with half-decent moderation long ago. I don't know how you can run this place like some kind of teletubbie nazi most of the time and claim it's supposed to be "family friendly" while still keeping a trollish douchebag like him around.

 
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Maybe the DC rules should be updated, include an Adult Content warning to downloads and tighten up the rules to cut out the troll member(s)?

 
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The only reason the comment was edited because of the swearword, that is all.

 
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18th August, 2009 at 05:36:15 -

Lol, I thought Adam get the first post after my question. Never letting a chance pass to get a dig in.
Yes we all know you don't like Radix you don't have to be so obvious about it by making stuff up.

 
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18th August, 2009 at 05:40:16 -

Good suggestion in principle but I don't see an Adult Content setting being added to this site, ever.


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Radix, if you ever start a klik / indie community website, definitely count me in to help.

 
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18th August, 2009 at 08:44:37 -

I don't see Adult Content as ever being part of the site either. It's been suggested a few times, but never taken seriously. Rules on TDC are sort of funny, sexual content and swear words are blocked out, but not suggestiveness and suppressed hate. It's how TDC members prefer it.

Heh, but true, the games on TDC don't exactly give a good view of Radix's style. I think it's better if Radix just put a link to his site.

We really need to have sort of a "this link may contain unsuitable content" warning, though. I've seen far worse links there than Radix's site.

 
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Originally Posted by Muz
sexual content and swear words are blocked out, but not suggestiveness and suppressed hate. It's how TDC members prefer it.



Yes, this seems to be the go.

 
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I fail to see where I "trolled" at all.

 
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Originally Posted by Muz
but not suggestiveness and suppressed hate.



Suppressed hate, I'll have to remember that one .
But I do think amendments to the rules should be made to make the site a more friendly place.

 
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The game the didn't get accepted must have been made for the tigsource adult compo.

 
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Originally Posted by Radix

Originally Posted by -Adam-
kick up such a fuss



First I removed the game I submitted at the same time, then I changed my mind and quietly deleted my past submissions and contacted Rikus to get rid of the stuff that doesn't have a delete button. I didn't even make a post about it until you painted me as "having a tantrum". And no, I visit TDC at most once a week now unless there's a discussion I'm following. Why are you such a drama queen, Adam? Don't you have anything better to do?




Your Twitter page says a different story (with swearing edited out!):

"Some TDC mod deleted LEGEND OF MOTORCYCLE ****. Well, **** the klik kindergarten, they won't be getting any more of my games"

That sounds like a tantrum to me.


Anyway, at any rate its a shame you had to feel you needed to delete your games. I enjoyed some of them.

 
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Sad to see them all deleted. I wouldn't understand deleting all your games because one that was questionable wasn't accepted; but I completely understand wanting to just leave a site in the past for various reasons, so it makes sense. Good luck with your games elsewhere, Radix.

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Originally Posted by Chris Street

Originally Posted by Radix

Originally Posted by -Adam-
kick up such a fuss



First I removed the game I submitted at the same time, then I changed my mind and quietly deleted my past submissions and contacted Rikus to get rid of the stuff that doesn't have a delete button. I didn't even make a post about it until you painted me as "having a tantrum". And no, I visit TDC at most once a week now unless there's a discussion I'm following. Why are you such a drama queen, Adam? Don't you have anything better to do?




Your Twitter page says a different story (with swearing edited out!):

"Some TDC mod deleted LEGEND OF MOTORCYCLE ****. Well, **** the klik kindergarten, they won't be getting any more of my games"

That sounds like a tantrum to me.


Anyway, at any rate its a shame you had to feel you needed to delete your games. I enjoyed some of them.



That Isn't a tantrum. I'm sure Radix just feels frustrated by the whole incident. I mean I complain about stuff all the time, doesn't mean im having a tantrum. It's just a complaining.

 
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You can be frustrated with something without acting irrationally to try and make a point.

 
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He acted perfectly rationally. He even explained his actions in a previous post.

 
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Originally Posted by AndyUK
He acted perfectly rationally. He even explained his actions in a previous post.



Which don't exactly match up with his twitter comment?

 
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Shame, I liked bastard world.

 
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Originally Posted by -Adam-

Originally Posted by AndyUK
He acted perfectly rationally. He even explained his actions in a previous post.



Which don't exactly match up with his twitter comment?



Complaining about something you feel wronged by IS rational. What the hell are you going on about. I don't see anywhere where he is being irrational. Its perfectly normal behaviour.

 
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Radix:
That's it. I'm not upset or frustrated, something Rikus didn't seem to get in his messages to me, but it's been made clear that TDC isn't the kind of site I would want to support anymore.

AndyUK
That Isn't a tantrum. I'm sure Radix just feels frustrated by the whole incident.

AndyUK
He acted perfectly rationally. He even explained his actions in a previous post.

You're clearly not reading what has previously been posted, Andy. You're trying to defend Radix, yet he's already cancelled out your "frustration" theories Just let it drop. You wanted to know what happened to his downloads and now you know.

 
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Who's Radix?

 
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I read his posts yesterday and didn't commit them to memory word for word.
I also read your posts, and you know what? You have been throwing in words to try to make it look like Radix is acting in a way that is completely untrue.

He hasn't 'kicked up a fuss' because there was no mention of anything being deleted until i brought it up.

He didn't have a 'tantrum'. That is just a derogatory term used to make it look like he caused a scene. He didn't. You're making it all up because you don't like him.

I'm not going to drop it just like you didn't drop your constant bullying of Robert Rule that eventually bought you a ban. Only in this case it's perfectly justified.

 
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18th August, 2009 at 19:26:36 -


I don't see why you're completely skipping over what he said on Twitter and treating that like it's not related at all.

"Some TDC mod deleted LEGEND OF MOTORCYCLE ****. Well, **** the klik kindergarten, they won't be getting any more of my games"


And actually I was banned because of something I said to Rikus in a news post. Again, getting you're facts wrong Andy, not that they have anything to do with this thread.

 
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18th August, 2009 at 20:15:47 -

So, what exactly was the fuss all about with Radix's "forbidden" game then? Someone just let me know, but obviously by being careful not to swear or use bad language stuff. This whole thread has gone over my head a bit since my memory sux and i don't think i know much about Radix anyways! I'm sure he's an alright guy

 
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http://forums.tigsource.com/index.php?topic=7797.0 word word word

 
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I will explain this to you as simply as I possibly can. Radix's post on Twitter is not a tantrum. The whole point of a tantrum would be to cause a scene. Twitter is not TDC. A post on Twitter that isn't going to be read by everyone at TDC isn't going to kick up much of a fuss. He could just have made a thread here at TDC if that was his intention. However he didn't, so he wasn't trying to cause a fuss or have a tantrum.
Most of us wouldn't even have known if Circy didn't bring it up.

Oh and what you said to Rikus was the final straw, i'm sure.

 
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It doesn't matter if the twitter comment wasn't seen here, my point is that's still related to why he deleted his content on the site.

All the "I don't want to support TDC anymore blah blah" and other such comments in this thread are nothing more than reasonably polite cover ups, hence why I called it a tantrum.

If you delete all the content you've posted over the years, because one, small and somewhat Phizzy-esque game is rejected. How is that not a tantrum?

I'm not trolling or "flame-baiting", I'm just not going to sit here and feel sad about this, or watch people and disciples sympathise over such a stupid happening and try to come up with excuses for him.

 
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Thank you adam. I have to say the game wasn't to my taste (and not because of the huge penis-cycle thing, since i once made a klik game called Aids Escape when i as younger, i can't really talk!) as i didn't find it fun. I did like the retro-ness of the graphics though, man i miss K'n'P!

 
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Originally Posted by -Adam-
It doesn't matter if the twitter comment wasn't seen here, my point is that's still related to why he deleted his content on the site.

All the "I don't want to support TDC anymore blah blah" and other such comments in this thread are nothing more than reasonably polite cover ups, hence why I called it a tantrum.

If you delete all the content you've posted over the years, because one, small and somewhat Phizzy-esque game is rejected. How is that not a tantrum?

I'm not trolling or "flame-baiting", I'm just not going to sit here and feel sad about this, or watch people and disciples sympathise over such a stupid happening and try to come up with excuses for him.



Ive tried to explain to you but you're just not listening.
Ive said the twitter post isn't proof of a tantrum, that was a reply to Circy quoting it, and I went on to say it's not a tantrum if nobody from TDC saw it.

Deleting your games from your profile and nothing more is just as un-tantrum like. He didn't make a thread on TDC did he? Who knew about it until I posted it in my bump post? Would it be a tantrum if he phoned his Grandmother and told her?

Why call it a cover up what he has posted in this topic? There is nothing that suggests it ever was a tantrum other than your own bad choice of words.

 
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*raises hand*
I didn't know about his games being deleted until this thread. Must have been one hell of a quiet tantrum.

 
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So tell me this, if his game hadn't been rejected, would he have deleted all of his content?

"Who knew about it until I posted it in my bump post?"

Considering he had only just released a game, I'm pretty sure people would have noticed it was missing sooner rather than later. Even if I was wrong, and it wasn't a tantrum (which it was, he still had to express his emotion even if it wasn't for TDC to see- it was else where) It's still a pretty childish way of dealing with it "They don't want my game, they dont get any, wah wah wah"

 
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Why is everyone so upset about him deleting his games?

 
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Originally Posted by Just plain old Codemonkey.
Why is everyone so upset about him deleting his games?



I don't actually know. Well, why people will miss them anyway.

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"oh the drama"


 
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Just come across this thread, a good read.

I'm not going to add anything, just thought I'd say keep up the good work guys, arguments about nothing are always the best.

 
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Yar they are!

 
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Oh no they're nooot!

 
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Heh, nobody has to throw a tantrum when there's other people willing to do it for him

 
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Heh, that's true. Has anyone put together a greasemonkey script for filtering Adam's posts yet?

And I can't believe how much of a beating that horse got. Do you really think that, knowing me, if I was going to throw a tanty I would confine it to one update on a twitter account that isn't even read by TDC people.


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Radix, if you ever start a klik / indie community website, definitely count me in to help.



Good spotting, that's what the domain was going to be for before someone leaked one of my ideas for launching it (which was cool and would've resulted in people getting free stuff for good content at no cost to me) and killed the timeliness of it.

...But I might still use it so there's, like, no need to tell everyone else if you're reading this and you're one of those people I told.

 
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