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12th July, 2009 at 05:28:24 -

Paintshop Pro has served me a great deal, but pretty soon I realised it wasn't as near as decent as Adobe's products, so I'm just wondering which I should get when I'm able- Photoshop, or Illustrator?

Today is the last day of my trial for Illustrator, and Photshop expired sometime ago. Generally, I'm not as big on Photography or Images as I am on drawing, painting, Inking, etc, so I'm leaning towards Illustrator. However, most people here have Photoshop, so I'm wondering if I should just get that instead?

This is all I drew.

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Anyways, I want your opinion. If you can tell which might suit me best, please do.

 
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12th July, 2009 at 07:54:45 -

Illustrator and Photoshop have two fairly different purposes. Photoshop is really all around digital editing, but Illustrator is highly vector based.
If you want to do digital drawing and painting, and you have/want a graphics tablet, I suggest Photoshop. If you want focus on linearts and smooth vector images I suggest Illustrator. It's somewhat preference in how you usually work and want to produce art, if you want to do details shading and effects Photoshop easier, but some could probably do just as well in Illustrator.
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'You seem to do cartoony/manga style drawing, Illustrator could be good for you, it would serve excellently for comic-style shading with block colours and simple shades, strong lineart focus etc.

Actually, I would say just get the entire Creative Suite

 
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12th July, 2009 at 13:39:17 -

"Actually, I would say just get the entire Creative Suite "

Trust me, If I had the money I would totally go for it

I'm not too much into manga, but my art style may branch from it. Maybe 1-2 years ago my drawings looked absolutely nothing like manga.

This is abit tough. Illustrator sounds the best for drawing and vectors, but Photoshop seems better for the textures, effects, lighting, etc. I'm starting leaning towards Photoshop now...

Thanks for the help.

 
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12th July, 2009 at 15:04:53 -

My parents bought Photoshop back in about 2002, and believe me, it is AWESOME once you learn it. Totally awesome. Get Photoshop!
Edit: Ha ha... I wanted the whole CS too, but $2000 isn't going to happen very fast. Took me almost a whole year to save up $200 for MMF2 Developer....

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12th July, 2009 at 15:18:57 -


Originally Posted by UG. [Crazy!]
My parents bought Photoshop back in about 2002, and believe me, it is AWESOME once you learn it. Totally awesome. Get Photoshop!
Edit: Ha ha... I wanted the whole CS too, but $2000 isn't going to happen very fast. Took me almost a whole year to save up $200 for MMF2 Developer....



So your parents buy you everything you want?

Also: If you're crazy, it's the best thing you can be. Think I'm doing well?

Fix'd for proper spelling.

Edit: Oh yea before I forget, Werewoof get photoshop. If your picture up at the top is any indicator then you should probably go get it. I don't really think you'll be doing tons of vectors and linearts really.

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12th July, 2009 at 15:42:24 -

LOL, but no, my parents bought it because they needed it and I use it alot.

 

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12th July, 2009 at 15:56:13 -

No I don't believe I'll be doing too many vectors. I guess I'l shoot for Photoshop. Maybe CS2 or CS3.

 
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12th July, 2009 at 17:11:36 -

Hope you like Photoshop if you get it.

 

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12th July, 2009 at 19:15:57 -

I have the entire Creative Suite, but most of it's a waste. Fireworks and Illustrator are all you really need for art. Photoshop is a good bonus.

 
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12th July, 2009 at 22:44:56 -


Originally Posted by UG. [Crazy!]
My parents bought Photoshop back in about 2002, and believe me, it is AWESOME once you learn it. Totally awesome. Get Photoshop!
Edit: Ha ha... I wanted the whole CS too, but $2000 isn't going to happen very fast. Took me almost a whole year to save up $200 for MMF2 Developer....



So your parents bought you photoshop when you were 3 years old ?
You sound like a real prodigy, to say the least.
At that age all I thought about was crapping and decapitating my sister's barbies.

 
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12th July, 2009 at 23:16:22 -

"At that age all I thought about was crapping and decapitating my sister's barbies."

LOL! That seriously made crack up. I remember messing with my sis' barbies. At the age of ten or so she started hating/smashing them. My cousins just strapped their heads to gemini missles and bam, that was it.

Good cruel times.

 
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12th July, 2009 at 23:32:41 -

ahahah your cousins know the true meaning of the word "win"
I remember a time (was a bit older, 5 years old or so) when I was caught ripping off one of her dolls's legs, she slapped me in the forehead and I started crying as loud as I could, and even pretended I was running out of breath. She knew I was faking, but when my dad passed by and heard me, he freaked out and beat up my sister pretty bad.

Cruel times indeed

 
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13th July, 2009 at 00:21:37 -

Seriously, just download both via torrents or whatever and have them both for free.

 
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13th July, 2009 at 00:33:35 -

Get Photoshop, it is probably what you'll need. It does have some basic vector stuff built in too.

 
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13th July, 2009 at 11:23:48 -


Originally Posted by Matt Boothman
Seriously, just download both via torrents or whatever and have them both for free.



I guess he could so choose that path if he wishes, though we don't want to endorse illegal activities on TDC

 
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13th July, 2009 at 13:22:27 -


Originally Posted by jthongbai

Originally Posted by Matt Boothman
Seriously, just download both via torrents or whatever and have them both for free.



I guess he could so choose that path if he wishes, though we don't want to endorse illegal activities on TDC



I do, fuck Adobe.

 
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13th July, 2009 at 17:01:31 -

I can say that I purchased CS2 at a highly reduced price. In a market in Thailand.

 
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13th July, 2009 at 17:08:34 -

I've been using Photoshop for around 7 year and it can do pretty much anything, but if you are wanting something aimed more for art and i think is slightly cheaper, try Corel Painter X. It uses layers like photoshop and gives you alot of drawing mediums, (pens, pencils, paintbrushes, sum-e, felt tips, watercolour, pastel, loads more) and it gives you a good selection of canvases; watercolour paper, wood, cloth (textures the canvas to give a nice authentic feel on the end result)
I could probably spend a while explaining more of it's features and stuff, but it'd be alot easier to grab the free trial and give it a go.
I mean i'm not saying painter X is better than photoshop, hell no, but like i said from what you've described it might be worth trying.
Oh and on another note, if you were fortunate to purchase both painter X and photoshop, they both save/open into the .PSD file formats which adds to the functionality.

 
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13th July, 2009 at 17:22:47 -

Yes, Zorda is correct there are also a lot of other functional painting programs. Photoshop is just a powerful overall tool, but if you don't need all the extra perks, there are some amazing digital paintings that have been done in lesser/cheaper alternatives.

 
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13th July, 2009 at 18:41:59 -

This week i have ben mostly using... Paint.NET

http://www.2009-version.org/paint-net/index.php?source=CCN-CD242-UK-C&googleid=1035982738

 
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13th July, 2009 at 18:44:31 -

What can I say? Le GIMP is all I can afford.

Also, no warez conversations.

 

  		
  		

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13th July, 2009 at 19:09:13 -

I would highly advise you to get the corel draw suite, it has Corel Draw(vector based) and Corel Photo Paint(pixel based) among other smaller apps.
Not only the two are solid alternatives to Adobe's products, they come bundled together and are still way cheaper than buying PS or Illustrator individually. I had to use them at school during 3 years and they never let me down, except that at the time we were using a older version (corel draw 11) which was crashy as hell, but as soon as the school upgraded to 12 those problems were gone. I still use both occasionaly at home, even though I could have have photoshop and illustrator for free thanks to a deal adobe signed with my uni.

 
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13th July, 2009 at 19:19:57 -

Ya know, I've been looking at Corel for a while and I might just get that. I'll have to do some research on it though. Hopefully it's cheap!

 
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13th July, 2009 at 19:33:35 -

holy crap they raised the price quite a bit (it's now at 429$, used to be around 300 if I recall correctly) and for some reason they took Rave out of the package.
It was pretty damn usefull specially for web development, I don't quite understand why the hell they took it off.

Dumb asses.

I recommend it, still.

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13th July, 2009 at 23:36:03 -


Originally Posted by OldManClayton
Also, no warez conversations.



I was in Thailand at the time and piracy is not an issue there, so I bypassed this rule slightly with a technicality Maybe. Maybe not. I'll be quiet.

I've heard good things about Paint.NET.

Also, I've used OpenCanvas, it's a pretty good paint program too, simple and effective. Seen some absolutely crazy stuff done on it, too. And I believe it's free.
Also, if you own a DS with a flash cart I suggest as a homebrew application to download "Colors!" (1.06b or something) it's excellent, great app for the DS. And I in no way encourage anyone to use homebrew illegally to run official ROMs.

 
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