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1st March, 2009 at 21:09:28 -

Ok, so I needed to put up a website for the book. The cover, I think, we finally agree upon now

You can go to the site at www.oldmanstale.net . The reason was to get people to go there and read the sample chapter. Then, if they liked it, they could go and sign the petition at the bottom of the page.

Anyway, I realized that in my hurry the site may have come off as somewhat noobish. Im also not that great with flash so I'm gonna need some help.

Ok, here's how the site looks right now.
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Here's an alternate look.
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The other thing I was wondering was, how do you put a background on the html with the swf aligned in the center and playing. www.jkrowling.com does this I think. check it if you don't know what I mean.

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1st March, 2009 at 21:14:39 -

the thing is i want to read the story but its to small, the flash only fills up half my screen. maybe its better to do the logo and stuff and anything animated in flash but the rest in plain good ol html?

 
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1st March, 2009 at 21:27:08 -

I think the site is fantastic, but I am by NO means a skilled website maker.

 

  		
  		

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1st March, 2009 at 21:54:11 -

Very good work Wolf; you must have years of Flash experience! I've never designed a site in my life and I KNOW that looks good. Btw, it only filled up half my screen too. Maybe look into that?

 
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1st March, 2009 at 22:18:06 -

That's very weird. It's always full screen for me. Can someone please printscr and post a screenshot?

Ahh, nevermind. I think I figured it out. I had mistakenly put a "false" value instead of "true" on the fullscreen actionscript.

@ - Werewoof and Rikus - Check it now. I think you should be able to read the sample chapter fairly easily. Fullscreen should work.
@ - OldManClayton - Thanks

So yeah, pretty much. Read the sample and sign the petition if you like it. If not, well, tell me what's wrong with it and I'll try to improve it.

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2nd March, 2009 at 07:00:27 -

There is a problem on the story section. When I click "More" it goes one page after and when I click again it goes to the same page

 
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2nd March, 2009 at 08:17:35 -

In the story section, doesnt it say "back" on the 2nd page?? The story section only gives you an overview of the story.
Goto sample chapter to read the chapter. And thanks for signing the petition and for the cover. Im gonna use the cover on fb.

 
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2nd March, 2009 at 08:17:58 -

I just cant read the text well at all:\ I think for the "story" change the text to normal font because it needs to be read-able.

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Aside from the actual website design, I've just been reading the sample chapter, and I have to say I think it needs a lot of work. A lot of the adjectives used in the opener seem like they are planted there for the sake of it, like words plucked out of a thesaurus. Obviously this is all my own opinion, but I think things should be shown and not told - I don't understand how an "end" can be civilised? It sticks out that in the second paragraph, nearly all nouns are preceeded by an adjective. Also, you say the city is a "centre of commotion, day and night", but in the very next paragraph you say it's a "peaceful city", how can it be both? This leads to a muddle in the reader's brain, and I for one have no clear image of the city despite the many adjectives you've used.

The dialogue as well - I know it's a fantasy kind of novel, and a certain type of stiltedness is expected, but lines like "You will. But first I must confirm with you what you have accomplished" seem overly wordy. The line before too - "'My question? I do not understand.' Irawsin said, confused" - confused is a completely redundant word here, again going back to the over-use of adjectives.

I'm not just saying these things to attack it, but I think it needs a least one more rewrite because at the moment it's a draft.

 
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2nd March, 2009 at 13:27:02 -

If you can make the exact same thing in HTML then don't use Flash. Infact Flash dependency is dropping. And with CSS animation in stuff like Safari 4 it's probably going to fade even more over the coming years.
So yea. HTMLalize that. The font is also really had to read. The menu is okay but for bulk text something more standard would be appreciated.

 
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3rd March, 2009 at 00:48:51 -

@ Boothman - Ah, I donno about the adjectives. I thought using them made visualizing the text easier. Haha, they weren't plucked out of the thesaurus though, sorry if it seems that way. As for the word 'peaceful', you realize that it doesnt necessarily mean quiet and secluded right? For instance, "Manchester United supporters are a peaceful bunch". That doesn't mean they are quiet, it just means they don't have companies or violent groups.
The part about the confused being redundant, nice catch. I'll change that when I next update the site. As for the wordy feel, I dont know. I certainly don't think its wordy especially considering the era. I think people in medieval times were very careful in speaking in proper english. It's just my interpretation of the era. I dont know, other people have read the entire book, they seemed to think it portrayed the era well. Haha, dont worry about seeming to attack it. I can take criticism quite well and I appreciate yours.

@ Joellie & Dr. James - I hear you I changed the entire site to have two themes and changed the font. I think it should be much easier to read now. It's sorta like comic sans so yeah, go ahead and give it a try. Also, tell me if its fullscreen for you or not. Tell me if its still hard to read. I will try to make an html version as well. I'll upload that when I'm done with it. At least for now, its swf.

Thanks everyone for your input. I really do appreciate it.

Now go sign the petition!!

 
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3rd March, 2009 at 13:07:57 -

I see where you're coming from with the peaceful thing, but at least for me peaceful means 'at peace' - commotion isn't peace. It's a small thing but it jumped out at me when I read it, and that's never a good thing.

And if you think people didn't use slang in times gone by then you're sorely mistaken - read Shakespeare and see some of the foul stuff in there if you don't believe me.

 
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3rd March, 2009 at 20:16:54 -

Ok, I'll see what I can do about the 'peaceful' bit on the next update. As for the slang bit, I totally agree with you but what do you think seems like a better representation of medieval times? Proper english or slang? Shakespeare didnt have to worry about these things because he was living in the era in which his plays were taking place (most of them I think). Your point is relevant to some extent however. In the book, there are quite a few characters who aren't as formal as the ones in the first chapter but I wouldn't say they use slang.

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3rd March, 2009 at 21:03:09 -

Hey Wolf, if you also need a new look for you website (in a designers perspective) I can also help out You will still have to do the coding but I can make a better look for your use

 
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3rd March, 2009 at 21:33:24 -

That would be awesome mate You seem to be much better than me when it comes to art and design. I'd appreciate the help

 
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