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28th February, 2008 at 07:18:39 -

I was just wondering, when you guy make games (as I presume you do anyway) what order do you make the various parts in?

I find myself making dialouge/cutscene systems first mostly... Followed by inventories, item equip screen, HUD, then a movement engine, enemies, all other framework and then levels.

So... Yeah?!

 
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1st. Engine

2nd. Graphics

3rd. Level Design

 
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28th February, 2008 at 07:29:32 -

When I used to attempt to make a game (that's right, attempt ) Id always try and do gfx and cut-scenes first, being my strongest point, but nowadays I really think it's important to have a solid engine and a good story first, that way I feel like I have something to work for.

 
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Originally Posted by Chris Street
1st. Engine

2nd. Graphics

3rd. Level Design



This is what you're supposed to do, but I've never been able to follow any sort of orderly plan most of the time. I usually start with the main character, or list out a bunch of ideas on a piece of paper. I find that if you make a decent enough main character it will encourage you to continue on with the actual game. If your character looks like ass, it won't. The best example of this was I wanted to make a 1942 style shooter, only instead of planes you were a dragonfly buzzing a pond. Not a bad idea, but because my dragonfly came out so horribly, I gave up on it and worked on another game that I actually finished.

 
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28th February, 2008 at 08:19:46 -

For me I usually draw some main sprites ready (main character, some environment). Then I start with the engine, do the most important things in it, and when I need to, I add more to the engine. I do all menus (except in-game ones) when the actual game is mostly ready.

 
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28th February, 2008 at 08:35:40 -


Originally Posted by Chris Street
1st. Engine

2nd. Graphics

3rd. Level Design



Which are then constantly cycled over. I don't work in the most effecient way, I'll go at something over and over until I feel happy with it in that very same order.

Like an onion. Or something.

 
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28th February, 2008 at 11:16:17 -

Um i actually often reuse old engines. So in most cases i do graphics first. But i'm constantly adding or tweaking the engine and graphics in my games so I do those at the same time really.

Music and sound effects are last.

Then i often chuck in an awful boss at the last minute.

 
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28th February, 2008 at 11:20:26 -

Pretty much the same as Circy:
1. Engine with really terrible graphics
2. Proper graphics, music
3. Levels, title screen, random things

Although by the time I'm done with making level editors etc I'm usually sick of looking at the game. A lot of games are sitting idle between stage 1 and 2!

 
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28th February, 2008 at 11:33:00 -

1. Graphics
2. Engine
3. More Graphics
4. Level Design
5. Add more stuff to the engine...

It's always very messy gfx always frist tho

Edit: I usually quit after doing a little level designing...

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28th February, 2008 at 12:30:30 -

I start the engine and find I have great lack of motivation to do any kind of graphics..

Those that do get any graphical attention rarely make it past the first few levels.

Maybe I should start a game that requires minimal graphical work and no level-building... a Space game?! *gets designing*

 
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28th February, 2008 at 12:50:10 -

1) Basic character sprite

2) Player engine

3) More graphics

4) Level Engine

5) More engine

6) Fixing shitload of bugs

7) More stuff

8) ???

9) Profit

10) Slap for bad use of meme

11) Sloppy release

12) About 20 downloads

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28th February, 2008 at 13:10:22 -

1) Everything at once.
2) ?????
3) Profit!


wow I didn't even read bibins before that >.>

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28th February, 2008 at 18:50:36 -


Originally Posted by Neuro
I start the engine and find I have great lack of motivation to do any kind of graphics..

Those that do get any graphical attention rarely make it past the first few levels.

Maybe I should start a game that requires minimal graphical work and no level-building... a Space game?! *gets designing*



Yep me too and I also agree with Adam.



 
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28th February, 2008 at 21:34:39 -

my animations are always quite integrated into the engine, so I must create the character first, as I can't work with just a block.

Case and point is this game I'm working on; I'll be demoing it soon.

 
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29th February, 2008 at 03:16:04 -

0: Doodles during class lectures at school
1: Sloppy starter graphics
2; Player engine
3: Better graphics + enemy engine + debugging

(divides here)

4: Ideas for next project while still not done with current one
5: Lack of interest grows
6: Project canceled in favor of new one, graphics & engines discarded

4: Level Editor (sometimes)
5. Levels + more debugging + more graphics + more everything
6. Presentation stuff

 
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At work, we first build the engine, then graphics, but not final graphics, mostly place holders. Then once the engine is near final, we make the game pretty. Knowing that, that's how I've been building my game.

1.Engine
2.Levels/Temp Graphics
3.Graphics/Music
4.Story Events
5.Cutscenes

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2nd March, 2008 at 21:31:45 -

I usually use the default diamond to work with a few basic things I'll need with the game engine.
Then I work on place holder graphics such as filled outlines for the actual objects.
Then I use those to farther work on the engine.
After I've got a somewhat solid engine set up, I'll work on the graphics.
From this point on, I'll just bounce back and forth between graphics and engine.
Once I'm happy with graphics and engine, then I'll start working on level design. This does not include test "levels" I make though, to test for bugs or exploits in my engine against various types of level design.

 
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2nd March, 2008 at 21:57:54 -


Originally Posted by Newt
At work, we first build the engine, then graphics, but not final graphics, mostly place holders. Then once the engine is near final, we make the game pretty. Knowing that, that's how I've been building my game.

1.Engine
2.Levels/Temp Graphics
3.Graphics/Music
4.Story Events
5.Cutscenes

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omg hi newt!

that might be the best way if you're working from a design.
However if you make game on the fly (like me) then there is no order. It sort of starts out like that but with an awful lot of tweaking and adding things to it before the cut scenes and such.

 
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2nd March, 2008 at 22:11:12 -

My plan goes like this:

1)Game concept
2)Rough sketches
3)Level design
4)Panic
5)Make a few levels
6)Realize how crap they are and scrap them
7)Burn eyes open with a glue-gun and then nail my feet to the floor so there is no escape
Finish levels
9)Scrap those
10)Levels again
11)Finish levels
12)Work on boss levels
13)Scrap, make, repeat
14)Pull my feet out of the floorboards and then re-nail them.
15)Eat something
16)Void bowels
17)Do title screens, openings, finishings, and so forth
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3rd March, 2008 at 01:21:17 -

Pff you guys went into heaps of detail... Fine then:

1) Idea written in notepad
2) HUD
3) Menu's
4) Movement System
5) Attacks
6) Whatever comes next
7) Graphics (by me or artist) and goto 6 until engine is done
Debug for a while
9) Add little bits in
10) Level designs
11) Cutscenes
12) Enemy Designs
13) Bosses
14) Clean Up
15) Cry because no-one likes the game.

 
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3rd March, 2008 at 06:30:28 -

the devils in the detail!

- have an idea (in recent times; Sam 2)
- whilst working on said idea I'll get a better one (Tormunk)
- original design doc
- using placeholder graphics whip up the engine and physics base
- rustle up a story, do concept art and "quotes" for such. Establishing the essence of the game.
- construct a few levels and story telling media to see if idea works. (if yes- move on. if no- go back a step)
- start at the beginning of the game!
*- update the engine to accomondate new features or enemies.
- Work on music.
- graphics phase 1.
- refer back and update the design doc without losing the essense of the game.
- make more levels!

Repeat from *.

 
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I most of the time draw the main character and do the engine. Some times i do menus before the level desgin.

 
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- Idea (many brilliant ones)
- Story if its a joint project
- Engine (many brilliant ideas fail here)
- Story if its an individual project
- Graphics (most brilliant ideas fail here)
- Menus, credits etc.
- Release game

 
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6th March, 2008 at 00:58:43 -

LOL.

1. Game concept design.
2. Engine design.
3. Data searching for engine design.
4. New engine design.
5. Engine coding.
6. Editor coding.
7. A lot of swearing and angry posts at TDC because my engine coding is un-editorable.
8. Goto (2), if it reaches (4) again, compress folder and toss it somewhere.

 
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10 Make Engine
20 Write Storyline
30 Sing Theme Song
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6th March, 2008 at 07:00:29 -

step 1 - rip a game from another site
step 2 - post on TDC
step 3 - profit
step 4 -
step 5 - profit

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1-think up an idea
2-make an engine and fiddle with it
3-Get annoyed that it wonít work and think maybe itís not such a good idea after all
4-Finally get it working
5-Draw some characters with rubbish animation
6-write a story if there is one
7-Sketch some level designs on paper
8-design them in the game
9-get annoyed at all the bugs
10-give up and leave the game for two months
11-give it another go and finish it
12- make a title screen and credits sequence which consists of a million different things all ending with Ď by Craig Taití
13- Have a proper play through of the game and notice lots of bugs
14-fix bugs while creating new onesÖthen fix them
15-If I think itís good enough, post game on the daily click.
16-crap myself waiting to see what people think of it!

 
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