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7th January, 2008 at 00:46:57 -


Originally Posted by Bibin

Originally Posted by Billybobjoe198-Happigamer

Originally Posted by Amen-Ra
...a small battleship game, you select the ships, the computer selects its ships, you take turns shooting at each other, very simple game, its not a lot of steps, the game got as far as you select your ships, as in click an icon and you place it on a square, and that's it, and that was about 3 months at least, he then said he was unable to finish it and wanted payment.



You do know that a game such as that is not as simple as you think? Clearly you have no click skill if you go around paying people to make crap games for you. If you opened MMF for a second and tried your self you would be lost and probably kill your self. You're nothing but a graphics artist. You should learn to program in the easiest program making program around. If you cannot do that then you're stupid, and shouldn't even be on the internet.




Hah, he sorta did; he sent me an MMF2 file with a few objects placed. That was it.

Seriously, I'm ready to post the latest build if anyone's interested in what I mean.



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7th January, 2008 at 00:52:44 -

As small a community as TDC is, as niche of a language as kliking is, if you guys haven't noticed this place is getting pillaged almost daily by other sites who flagrantly rip games and either sell them or post them for themselves unsourced. There have been numerous cases of click games ending up on cds being sold in corner shops without their owners knowledge, and heck TDC barely makes it onto the first page of google results if I type in "Gridquest", and the game hasnt even been released yet: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gridquest&btnG=Google+Search

Frankly, even if he is wildly butcher games sent to him, and has no programming skill or knowledge, the very fact hes offering to legitimately purchase rights to software places him head and heels over the rest of the rape going on here. So cut a little slack, eh?

 
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7th January, 2008 at 00:58:55 -

A little better, yes, but there is a correlation between good games and good graphics in those games. A game that has great gameplay probably has great graphics, and the creator doesn't want to have their graphics changed.

 
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7th January, 2008 at 01:22:03 -


Originally Posted by Bibin
A little better, yes, but there is a correlation between good games and good graphics in those games. A game that has great gameplay probably has great graphics, and the creator doesn't want to have their graphics changed.



http://youtube.com/watch?v=_RNjxAO03pQ

I'm immodest enough to know I program well and create games with good gameplay, but I'm modest enough to know my graphics look like turds.

 
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7th January, 2008 at 01:24:51 -

I don't think those look bad; simple, but they aren't bad.

 
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7th January, 2008 at 09:06:14 -

Well, by myself I would feel very angry if someone bought my game, changed the graphics and bought under his own name. Although you pay us, I would treat that as stealing (almost) :S

So no, I'm not about to sell anything anywhere.

 
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7th January, 2008 at 11:03:44 -

I could sell you my 'Choppy' game for one unit of currency.

 
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7th January, 2008 at 11:49:11 -

On buying peoples games.

I'm sure you have even put them out for free, well how about if someone buys them. Its perfectly fair there is nothing unsavoury about that.

And if anyone thinks it is, if you sell your house you must state then, this house can not be developed in any way, no property developers, must be sold as is, no developers at all shall renovate the property, even though I presently let people stay in it for free, it cannot now be sold making me money in return while you then spend money and time on it to develop it, same goes for that rusty classic car I've got to sell, you cannot buy it and bring it lovingly to nice condition and pass it on, it would be plain wrong. You see that would be plain silly wouldn't it, well the same excuse goes for not selling on your games

If you don't like it, don't apply, keep your game that you had probably had up on the net for free and just don't get paid for it, work for providing your time as a game maker to be a service for the general public.

Also I know nothing about bouncing emails, that's news to me.
Also the criticising about former projects, It is me that is left in the lurch, I am only grateful I didn't have someone above me waiting for the product, my only regret on the matter is that I would of had more money at the time to offer originally, but the people that contacted accepted that amount so that was that, unfortunately they projects wasn't delivered, its that simple, I would of loved to of had them made, but they didn't do that, and that's the whole of the matter, nothing more nothing less, what I would of done in hindsight now is try and get more money and hired industry people with experience, hiring very young people still at school using drag and drop editors is just not a good idea, In hindsight it just wasn't a good idea to expect hobbyists who may quite young to take on the responsibility, that's why I ask for done games, I just wouldn't hire people ever again from click style game communities, if I'm buying done games then that's different, I can be sure they are done, Ill give it a go, but if not ill just move on and work with a different set of people able to handle business matters.

Ill also give some advice, if you want to work in the games industry, and perhaps some posters do, then think about what you post, you never know who reads the boards, who is watching you and who may influence the hiring of new staff, either now or in the future, or who you may have to work with, or if you work with them, or who you want to pitch to or deal with, people have long memories and wide social circles and remember who you are. Now you can take that or leave it, but you will find its sound advice to follow. Its far better to be civil and sensible in how you handle yourself.

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7th January, 2008 at 12:29:27 -

Honestly, the reason the source to BattleShip sits dormant on my hard drive was due to bouncing emails, and a lack of response from you.

Hmm, maybe I'll finish your game then sell it to you.

 
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7th January, 2008 at 14:52:14 -

Dude, if you're website is anything to go by you are not even a proper gfxartist. Adding letting others code for you makes you more like a NOTHING.

 
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7th January, 2008 at 14:56:42 -

It's not, his battleship art is decent.

 
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7th January, 2008 at 15:51:46 -

Yeah, to be honest I was expecting a much higher level of professionalism with the webdesign... I could design and recode that site with my eyes closed :\ If you want to sell your games, you need to learn to 'sell yourself' as a company, and that starts off with the website - which is every visitor's first impression.

I wasn't going to bother looking at the games there when I saw the site. I thought it was just another one of those wannabe people, really. But after looking at the games you had on the site, they all seemed to be of very high standard. Whether you made them or not, you want to sell them, so if I were you, I'd think about redesigning it, to be honest.

And that sliding JS navigation is really annoying _

 
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7th January, 2008 at 17:21:30 -

I say that if a guy wants your crappy game for money - sell it! I doubt he'll sell any off that website anyway, it's awfully ugly.

 
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7th January, 2008 at 20:26:59 -

I think I'll finish this battleship game he provided graphics for, then sell it to him.

 
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7th January, 2008 at 20:38:24 -

redundant

 
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