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27th October, 2007 at 13:48:10 -

I cant recall what its really called at this particular moment but I can pretty much speak for all of us when I say that the MMF2 Edit Object Window really sucks. I remember a time when people said the same thing about MMF1 having a terrible Edit Object window but I seem to come to like this. The main differences for me about MMF1 and MMF2 that I particularly dont like how MMF2 has TGF's Edit Object window! It Sucks! So my question is, is if you can change MMF2's Edit Object windo to that of MMF1's?

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27th October, 2007 at 16:14:47 -

The graphic editor in MMF2? Yeah I don't like it either it's a lot slower, but I know a lot of people will probably disagree as they never gave the MMF1 editor a chance ;_;

 
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27th October, 2007 at 16:32:38 -

Argh, no! I hated the MMF1 picture editor. I like the MMF2 editor much better, it's so much easier and faster to use. Yeah, it's a bit like the TGF editor, why is that a bad thing? I used to do my graphics in TGF just because of the crappy MMF1 picture editor =P

Anyway, to answer your question: No, I don't think it's possible. I can't see why they'd include two picture editors anyway.

 
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27th October, 2007 at 16:44:30 -

I simply just hated the TGF Editor. I actually liked MMF1's Editor :|

 
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27th October, 2007 at 17:02:50 -

I hate the MMF1 editor too. There's just too much junk in it. MMF2's editor is a huge improvement imo.

I still don't use the MMF2 editor though, because selecting a colour that's not in the pallette simply sucks ass. You have to double click the current colour, click custom and you finally get to the RGB settings. Infuriates me >=(

 
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27th October, 2007 at 21:05:06 -

well selecting colours and zooming sucks in MMF2's Editor. There simply aren't enough colours in the pallete and not enough tools in the editor

 
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27th October, 2007 at 23:35:43 -


Originally Posted by Reno
I simply just hated the TGF Editor. I actually liked MMF1's Editor :|



MMF1's editor felt to unstable and often (once every hundred or so times is often enough) crashed or started messing up for no reason.

MMF2's editor misses customizable, and a lot of smaller scale features, but makes up for it in amazing stability and perfectly fast speed. Not to mention a streamline merge between animation editor and picture editor, which if I do say so myself, is fantastic! Not much speeds up the work flow better then that, I love it!

In addition, the alpha channels, though could've been implemented better, are a great addition and the ability to open up animations (selecting image01.png will automatically let you select image02.png, image03.png, etc) and transport alpha channels from images.

I do have to admit, though I thought I would hate MMF2's picture editor, I love it now. And yes, I did give MMF 1.5's editor a chance, because if I didn't, then I would not have been hard pressed to say that I thought MMF2's was going to suck.

 
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27th October, 2007 at 23:38:48 -

The MMF1 editor decided that white was a good transparent representative, which is terrible. A checkerboard of definable colours lets you tell what's transparent and what's not.

 
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28th October, 2007 at 01:16:23 -

The only qualms I have with the MMF2 editor are the colours, and the lack of mass hotspot and action point tools, zooming is alright...

I hated the MMF1 editor though, loved the TGF one.

 
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28th October, 2007 at 01:22:36 -

same here, hated the mmf editor and loved the tgf one.

 
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28th October, 2007 at 02:11:24 -

anyone remember the morphing tool in tgf's animation editor

 
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28th October, 2007 at 04:06:44 -

MMF1.5's Picture editor rulz!!!! C'mon; in comparison MMF2's is underpowered. It doesn't even have non-square selection!! It doesn't have nearly as many brush shapes and loads of other features MMF1.5's had. MMF1.5's was far more customisable too.

 
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28th October, 2007 at 04:12:24 -

MMF2's editor is fine as it is. The combination of animation editor + picture into 1 single editor was a great idea. I hope they stick with this.

 
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28th October, 2007 at 09:05:53 -


Originally Posted by Reno
There simply aren't enough colours in the pallete



Err... It's the same palette, isn't it? I like the TGF-style palette much more anyway. It was annoying, having to scroll left and right all the time in the MMF1 editor. Oh, and I love the fact that they brought back the "right-click to pick color" thing, I really use that a lot!


Originally Posted by BrandonC
MMF1's editor felt to unstable and often (once every hundred or so times is often enough) crashed or started messing up for no reason.



I also used to have a lot of problems with tool buttons getting stuck, and stuff like that. The MMF2 editor is much more stable IMO.


Originally Posted by Markno2

MMF1.5's Picture editor rulz!!!! C'mon; in comparison MMF2's is underpowered. It doesn't even have non-square selection!! It doesn't have nearly as many brush shapes and loads of other features MMF1.5's had.



That's one of the few things I don't like about the MMF2 picture editor: The lack of non-square selection/magic wand tools. Do you seriously use those different brush shapes anyway though?

 
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28th October, 2007 at 09:19:27 -


Originally Posted by axel

That's one of the few things I don't like about the MMF2 picture editor: The lack of non-square selection/magic wand tools. Do you seriously use those different brush shapes anyway though?



Yeah, when used with the transparent%-slider, some of them are useful in creating larger backdrops (especially parallax backgrounds). All my graphics now are done in MMF1.5.

 
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28th October, 2007 at 12:31:25 -


Originally Posted by Bibinothy
The MMF1 editor decided that white was a good transparent representative, which is terrible. A checkerboard of definable colours lets you tell what's transparent and what's not.



LOL I always thought that was funny.


As for MMF2's Editor, I guess ill give it a chance. Ill learn to like it

 
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28th October, 2007 at 13:52:52 -

I think it should just be customizable. MMF1's was partially customizable, so you could add tools to the bar and similar things.

If they make it customizable in here, people can CHOOSE to make it a fully vertical, horizontal or taking-up-more-columns look.

 
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28th October, 2007 at 15:09:17 -


Originally Posted by Bibinothy
The MMF1 editor decided that white was a good transparent representative, which is terrible. A checkerboard of definable colours lets you tell what's transparent and what's not.



You do know you can change the white into a different colour, don't you?

 
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29th October, 2007 at 15:42:18 -

The picture editor of MMF2 is missing some tools and features that MMF1 had. The resize-tool really sucks. It rotates whole image and even badly. It is handy that I can rotate a selection in MMF1. And why some tools doesn't have the opacity sliderbar? Sometimes I shall need it with fill tool. MMF2 has only one selection tool. Bah, MMF1 had four and all of them was necessary for me. I really wonder why MMF2's picture editor misses so many good features of MMF1. Sometimes I can't understand Clickteam.

(huh, it's very hard to write English correctly)

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29th October, 2007 at 15:45:25 -

The MMF2 picture editor is cool for people who are good at gfx and bad for people who suck at it.

 
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29th October, 2007 at 15:56:28 -

I forgot...

And the exit thing... I press accidentaly Esc. MMF2 asks that "Are you sure you want to cancel the changes?". Huh, the picture saved. Next time I press accidentaly the cross on top of the window. MMF2 asks same question also now. But last time I accidentaly press Cancel button instead of OK because they are so close together. This time MMF2 doesn't ask the saving question so I lost my work. Damn!

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29th October, 2007 at 21:51:07 -

The thing I'd like most is a tool that replace all of the color you click on with the color that's selected.

MMF1/1.5 had a way to do this, but it took about 10 times longer than it should have. Now, in MMF2, it's impossible.

I hated the instability of the MMF image editor, yes, but I think a bit too much got taken out for MMF2.

 
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29th October, 2007 at 22:07:56 -

i rarely use the mmf editors, i find them lacking in almost every department, i use GFX Gale for all spriting i do, i only use the editor to animate.
but MMF2 editor is better than MMF1 for the simple reason it doesnt crash every 2 seconds, other than that it just seems like a new layout

 
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29th October, 2007 at 22:31:07 -

No matter how many chances you give the mmf1 picture editor it's still an unusable buggy piece of crap. I kept CnC installed on my computer for drawing purposes until MMF2 came out.

 
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29th October, 2007 at 22:35:05 -

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30th October, 2007 at 05:11:54 -

I make my graphics in a hex editor.

 
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30th October, 2007 at 14:02:48 -


Originally Posted by Dustin Gunn
No matter how many chances you give the mmf1 picture editor it's still an unusable buggy piece of crap. I kept CnC installed on my computer for drawing purposes until MMF2 came out.


MMF1's editor is only buggy and unusable for a select few people, though.

 
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Originally Posted by Dustin Gunn
No matter how many chances you give the mmf1 picture editor it's still an unusable buggy piece of crap. I kept CnC installed on my computer for drawing purposes until MMF2 came out.


MMF1's editor is only buggy and unusable for a select few people, though.

 
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30th October, 2007 at 19:54:34 -

I just think they should have both and have an option to choose which one

 
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31st October, 2007 at 04:04:32 -

I reckon the pallete is good but a HSL bar underneath would make it so much easier.

 
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