Originally Posted by Dr. James If only the islam folk would respect our religions too, shame about that.
Agreed.
Oh did you guys know that Muslims complained about Ocarina of Time? Ninty were forced to change the Fire Temple music and the symbol on the mirror shield and on the Desert Colossus. I beleive the mucic in the fire temple consisted of some religious chanting which said something along the lines of "There is no God but Allah."
To draw Muhammed as a dog is a huge insult to the Islam and is the most disrepectfull thing that you can do to Muhammed..... as far as muslims are concerned.
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I don't see Christians rioting and murdering after Jesus is depicted as a silly person.
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from time to time some smartasses try desperately to get some atention, but well they fail.
They complain because some unknown guy draw that stupid picture, yet they don't seem to mind about terrorism and murder.
As a muslim, I take offense at that. Well, at least I'm supposed to.
Actually, it's simple, Islam's pretty much becoming the biggest religion in the world. And much like Christian fanatics back in the medieval days started the Inquisition and stuff to show off their piousness, a lot of Muslims are doing the same thing. Had anyone even called Jesus a silly person in the pre-Reformation days, they'd have been hanged, flogged, burned, whatever.
Anyway, for those of you who don't understand the tradition, any picture of Muhammad is a heavy insult to everyone in the religion, it's pretty much like saying that your father is ugly since he's considered as a father of all Muslims. Now it's ok when you insult one person's father, but insult the father of millions AND put it in a newspaper *AND* citing that they have the freedom to insult anyone's father is bound to start a riot.
And then dogs are the 2nd lowest animal in Islamic culture, just below the pig. Heck, most Muslims won't even touch a dog without washing their hands in antiseptic. In fact, I've been taught at school that a wet dog is even of filthier than dung, corpses, piss, and blood. True.
"They complain because some unknown guy draw that stupid picture, yet they don't seem to mind about terrorism and murder."
> That's another flaw of western media + general human stupidity.. apparently the leaders of many muslim councils have had a lot of meetings against terrorism, but it's a few riots that make the big news. Heck, we even had some cool counter-terrorism action in SE Asia, but I don't think that made the news in Western countries.
"Problem with Christianity is that most people who call themselves Christians are far truly from being Christian at all..... they never listened well enough to Jesus teachings at all: turn the other cheek. Problem with fanactic muslims is that they are true muslims, since they do what the Koran tells them to do: fight the unbeliever with the sword."
> That's another HUGE misunderstanding, most Muslims make it and I tend to spend an hour arguing to them about it. There's nothing at all in the Quran that says that. It's a cultural thing. In fact, the Quran states several times not to fight someone unless they attack you first.
I guess it's all just because people want to pretend to be pious. And there's nothing more pious pretending than trying to fight a commmon enemy. The Crusades started because the Pope wanted their Christian brothers to stop fighting and slay a common enemy. It works the same way here.
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I think peaceful Muslims can help change their image by being more vocal, as you have been. More Muslims need to stand up and say, "Terrosists/Rioters are not true Muslims. I do not support what they did. These people are evil and perform their actions Against my Gods will"
Well Muz, you talk the talk, but I see little of your community trying to stop this. Does any Islamic state do anything of substance to counter terrorism in their own country? No, and if they do, it has little effect. Do terrorists like bin Laden et al hide out in these countries with little fear of being 'fessed up? Yes, they do, and the government's are seemingly turning a blind eye - very unreligious behaviour it would seem.
I don't agree that those pictures are offensive either - they're just scapegoats to cause demonise the West once again. If your religion is absurd enough to have rules like that then so be it - but because someone in our countries draws a silly little picture then you feel people have a right to threaten violence and death? Islam is the only sizeable religious community I see which gets on it's high-horse like this - even Christian's today don't give a shit if someone slags off Jesus, after all, it's their choice to go to hell.
I used to be quite the apologist for Islam, but I can see it for what it is now.
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I beleive the mucic in the fire temple consisted of some religious chanting which said something along the lines of "There is no God but Allah."
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Sorry, no pun intended.
