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5th August, 2007 at 22:31:53 -

Mods, please do something about this stalker. He has PMed me asking me if "I'm doing anything to night", told me to get a fixed IP as it makes his "job easier" and googled my name and posted pictures I may not wanted to have posted in a completely off topic thread.

You warned me for a hell of a lot less.

Plus, he has two accounts. Is that even allowed? Are both alt accounts of a moderator, as that's the only way he can get away with this surely?

 
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6th August, 2007 at 00:23:55 -

He asked you out on a date? Good job Matt!
...but I think you can do better though.

Roseweave, if he touches you inappropriately, just kick and scream.

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6th August, 2007 at 01:02:17 -

Who? Hmm... we don't exactly have any evidence of what you said he did. How the hell did he google you and get pictures? I can't even do that with most of my friends. However, he does have more than 2 accounts, so I think I'll ask them to handle the problem

 
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6th August, 2007 at 04:32:00 -

If you run around acting like an arse biscuit then there you go.
You're unhappy because he asked you out? For your own sake never go outside again.

 
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6th August, 2007 at 05:48:59 -

Dude, if you have a problem you need to PM a mod about it, and quit the swearing, it's lame, this is a family site with kids as young as 9ish on it.

 
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6th August, 2007 at 05:55:41 -

Also, you're kinda unsettling some members in this community, it's really quite rare for hayo to get pissed at someone and tell them so. The reason so many thought you were a fake account is because you came along with a poor attitude for one who has just joined a community site, my advice would be to keep low, be helpful and stop attacking people. (lol, and yes, that's coming from me)

 
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6th August, 2007 at 06:00:43 -

HAHA I am flattered, though the creep status is rich coming from you looking at those pictures and your posts of another forum about bleaching hair. Who's Andy? I have 2 accounts btw - one that has some stupid "bulbasaur pillow" rating, so I got a new one , and it is not used anyway, it just has some articles on it I didn't want to remove. And with regards to the static IP thing, it simply eliminates you from the fake account verification process. The message you received was the result of a group collaboration, so any messages you may have received in duplicate were the result of one (anonymous) person's idea which I simply followed for amusement purposes. So yeah I was trying to freak you out, and it worked by the looks of it. I don't know what the admins will think of that but I think the very nature of your posts is adequate justification.

Haha this tactic is amusing, I am sorry to crush your spirit but I have an annoying habit to squash retardism in the (rose)bud. I sense your banning or self removal in the near future.

 
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6th August, 2007 at 07:27:44 -

It's still fucking creepy. There's no reason to believe someone is a fake just because their attitude doesn't mean they're not for real. The general creepiness of a non mod wanting to check IPs coupled with this extreme E-Xenophobia just makes it double creepy.

I didn't have a poor attitude until Hayo started to get narky for me. Why is it so hard to accept that one of your own is at fault? Who lashed out in the last thread? Was it me? No. It was him, and I didn't troll him into it either.

Not to mention it's fucking sad to dig up pictures of people and post them in random arguments. You're not exactly on the mature upper hand here.

And sorry, I meant Adam. Both you and Adam post within a few minutes of each other, and both PMed me with the same PM. Maybe you're brothers or lovers, but either way, you're both creeps for being in it "together".

 
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6th August, 2007 at 07:32:45 -

We pm'd you as a joke saying "what are you doing tonight" because you were acting like a fake account. And please, stop the swearing.

 
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6th August, 2007 at 07:46:18 -

"Not to mention it's fucking sad to dig up pictures of people and post them in random arguments. You're not exactly on the mature upper hand here." any psychologist can see you are just upset with your image. You have not been here long enough to understand the nature of fake accounts so I will give you the benefit of the doubt on that one.

Creeps for being in it together. Again a psychologist might relate this to your lack of real friends. You should seek help.

You think I am a creep? I am not the retard running around in a purple veil with bright orange hair.



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6th August, 2007 at 07:48:24 -

Roseweave, you're not contributing a thing to the community. If anyone, YOU should be deleted.

I didn't have a poor attitude until Hayo started to get narky for me. Why is it so hard to accept that one of your own is at fault? Who lashed out in the last thread? Was it me? No. It was him, and I didn't troll him into it either.
You're a n00b coming here telling him he shouldn't make games portraying his view of liberals.

Not to mention it's fucking sad to dig up pictures of people and post them in random arguments.
Someone has issues with their looks
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(I hope you don't mind me linking you your photobucket, Adam)

Thinking about it, someone should make Roseweave a character in their game Would be fun.

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6th August, 2007 at 07:53:43 -

People cant help the way they look, Phred

Roseweave is clearly a Harry Potter Fan

 
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At first I agreed with her, but now she is just acting like a retarded nobcake. Just drop it yeah?

 
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6th August, 2007 at 07:57:30 -

Both you and Adam post within a few minutes of each other, and both PMed me with the same PM. Maybe you're brothers or lovers, but either way, you're both creeps for being in it "together".

Are you from a land where you don't have friends? Don't you have friends that you discuss things with?

 
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6th August, 2007 at 08:01:45 -

i think rosweave sounds like a good person i think you should all stop bulling her. I was in the same positon when i came on TDC (LOL ) so I know what it feels like to be bullyed on this site.

everyone needs to get back with games making!!!

 
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6th August, 2007 at 08:15:36 -

"Roseweave, I'm going to take a falsely calm and intelligent tone, and tell you that YOU are in fact the one who should be punished. I am not going to back this with any reasoning, because there are enough stupid people here to go by numbers instead of arguments.
By the way, I'm going to continue to post pictures of you, knowing it annoys you, just because I can, thus negating any claims of maturity. Just to prove I can be a hypocrite and get away with it."

I'm not far off with this translation, am I?

 
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6th August, 2007 at 08:17:32 -

http://www.create-games.com/oe/forum_1900_2906061.png

What's funny is that your terrible MSPaint skills are the real joke here.

And they can't even be excused as "purposely bad" - you spam the heck out of the place with them and none of them are in the slightest amusing.

 
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6th August, 2007 at 08:18:45 -

It's not MSPaint (Yuck!)! It's Oekaki!
Also Hayo, Adam and Matt are awesome, love them or suffer!

 
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6th August, 2007 at 08:19:31 -

You are not the pillar of maturity you seem to think you are.

 
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6th August, 2007 at 08:21:13 -

I think Phreddy's pics are perfect examples of the level of retardedness of your arguments and the whole situation in general.

And I give them thumbs up.

 
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6th August, 2007 at 08:27:41 -

"You are not the pillar of maturity you seem to think you are."

What a super convincing statement! I'm super convinced. I must not be mature at all because YOU SAY SO and you don't have to tell me why you think that! The most convincing argument of all

"I think Phreddy's pics are perfect examples of the level of retardedness of your arguments and the whole situation in general. "

No, I think the fact that you can waltz in and declare a bunch of arguments retarded without even explaining what's wrong with them is a perfect example of the level retardness in your posts.

"It's not MSPaint (Yuck!)! It's Oekaki!"

Oh wow, that suddenly makes them amusing.

"Also Hayo, Adam and Matt are awesome, love them or suffer!"

Again, an immensely well research and well backed statement.

 
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6th August, 2007 at 08:29:50 -

LOL, this thread is pathetic now.

 
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6th August, 2007 at 08:31:02 -

It feels strange agreeing with someone like Evil Kitty, but seriously dudes... Roseweave might have acted like a total "arse biscuit" here on the forums, and we might not all agree with her posts, but does that justify us bullying and ridiculing her over the internet?

 
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6th August, 2007 at 08:32:02 -

How are we hypocrites for posting pictures of you?

If you don't want people to see how you look you shouldn't have put them on the net in the first place!

I have reasoned, you haven't contributed a thing while Hayo has made lots of games. You're just stirring up trouble, possibly putting other people off from joining the site. First post you made was asking for good platformers. That is a perfectly fine post. However, as soon as you played Bernard and Hank, you began whining about the game's portrayal of liberals, and telling Hayo not to use his own character (NationalLiberal) in his games! You are apparantly NOT liberal but very authoritarian! (you can look the word up on wikipedia if you don't know what it means )

 
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6th August, 2007 at 08:39:48 -

MSPaint does suck, it can't even save PNGs right.
Adam, Hayo and Matt are awesome and obviously weren't serious.
I agree with Kitty (It doesn't sound well ) and Axel, he hasn't done something too wrong.
Just remove that stupid quote from your sig, it makes you look stupid.
Also don't put silly pictures of yourself on the internet, you will end like Phizzy this way.

 
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6th August, 2007 at 08:55:47 -

"How are we hypocrites for posting pictures of you?"

Because you are trying to assume the "mature" position, as is evident by your tone. But you're anything but. You're a bunch of dumbass schoolyard bullies at best and complete morons at worst.

Am I insulting? Yes. Because you've been harassing me constantly and I'm sick of it. OH YOU SHOULDN'T PUT PICTURES ON THE INTERNET IF YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO SEE THEm.
I didn't post them for you, dumbshit, I posted them for friends on my Myspace account. I didn't purposely put them in an open gallery of look at how awesome I am, and I CERTAINLY did not intend to use them on this forum. I don't like pics posted of me because any female that isn't a size 10, 5 foot 4, nice tits, tan and long hair and bouncy tits is often jeered for how they look.

What you are doing is wrong, and mean. And you don't give a shit. All you care about is that you can pull some dumbass excuse for your behaviour out of your ass.

Some of you have no consideration for being right or wrong, for being good people, you only care about how you can cover your own asses, and that's why you drive me fucking nuts.


"I have reasoned, you haven't contributed a thing while Hayo has made lots of games."

That is NOT fucking reasoning! It doesn't make anyone any more or less wrong or right. People's motivations for contributing something could range from personal glory to just wanting to take the piss out of a political party. Not to mention I COULD contribute something in the future - I at least contributed a demo.

This is EXACTLY what reasoning isn't. You're just proving to me you only care about defending the clique.

"You're just stirring up trouble, possibly putting other people off from joining the site."

I would rather think your clique-like behaviour is much more likely to put people off from joining the site.

H"owever, as soon as you played Bernard and Hank, you began whining about the game's portrayal of liberals, and telling Hayo not to use his own character (NationalLiberal) in his games! You are apparantly NOT liberal but very authoritarian! (you can look the word up on wikipedia if you don't know what it means )"

This is really crossing a line now. I've said before that people who are too incompetent to argue will always try to make out their opponent to be "what they hate". You are using this fuckwit argument now. I didn't try to force Hayo's hand into not making games about his stupid version of "liberals", and wouldn't if I had the power. I told him he shouldn't do it again, after I went over several pages of argument as to why it's a bad idea, which was never really fully countered("artistic freedom" in the end, which is a poor rebuttal since it doesn't counter the awkward culture clash I drew attention to). It's not as if I'm telling people don't do this BECAUSE IS SAY SO. That's what authoritarianism is.

I know EXACTLY what authoritarianism is. Again, I am most likely more verbose than you, as I am more verbose than most people I know. Going by your arguments, I'm almost definitely smarter in terms of critical thinking, too. I'm not being self important - if you were on my level, you would be churning out pages of reasoning, not insulting the way I speak. Have you ever heard of the style over substance fallacy? Even if I wasn't more verbose than you, it doesn't automatically discredit my ideas.

And I know that by mocking any attempt to criticise Hayo's games, you are the one restricting my freedom to be critical of others, not the other way around. Hayo has the run of the board and I know my actions can do little to harm him - so with this knowledge, none of my actions can be considered authoritarian.

Not that you give a shit. Again, you only care about covering your own ass, not what it's really like to be a decent person. And it bothers the hell out of me. I think I'll find another Click site to develop my games on, this one is reminding me too much of those schoolyard Sonic game boards.

 
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"Not to mention it's fucking sad to dig up pictures of people and post them in random arguments. You're not exactly on the mature upper hand here" - where's YOUR justification? "I am super convinced"

"Roseweave, I'm going to take a falsely calm and intelligent tone, and tell you that YOU are in fact the one who should be punished. I am not going to back this with any reasoning, because there are enough stupid people here to go by numbers instead of arguments.
By the way, I'm going to continue to post pictures of you, knowing it annoys you, just because I can, thus negating any claims of maturity. Just to prove I can be a hypocrite and get away with it." - where's YOUR justification? "I am super convinced"

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"You're just looking for reasons to make "the opposition" who prides themselves on not being a bigot look like a bigot since it's easier than mounting the real argument. It's an irritating and age-old tactic mostly used by Neo-cons. It's just nasty and not very intelligent." where's YOUR justification "I am super convinced"

So that's all true coz you said it is? HYPOCRISY. You are a retarded hypocrite. Those quotes are my justification.



 
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6th August, 2007 at 09:01:34 -

THE CLIQUE IS UNDER ATTACK! DEFEND THE CLIQUE!

Seriously Roseweave, I told you to calm it down on DC mail and you just replied saying you were going to "milk it for all it's worth". All of this is your own making. While I know I have no authority or owt like that, it was good advice. The fact you decided to argue for argument's sake surely shows us your character.

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6th August, 2007 at 09:02:21 -

I donít know who that Andy guy is but he must be a new user/must have gotten his 56k modem recently since he doesnít know how to behave on the Internet. Itís a shame people donít know how to behave and POST A PICTURE of Roseweave. Donít people have ANY respect?

 
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6th August, 2007 at 09:06:43 -

""Not to mention it's fucking sad to dig up pictures of people and post them in random arguments. You're not exactly on the mature upper hand here"

My justification is that you have none. You actl ike I'm less mature yet don't back it up. And, the posting of the pictures. And, the post I just made above pointing out a hell of a lot.

"where's YOUR justification?"

That second one makes absolutely no sense in the context.

"where's YOUR justification "

It IS a tactic used by neo-cons. Look at any "Religious Right" organisation for example - they almost always rant about how their "religious freedoms" are being hurt by not being able to convert gays, etc., making out open minded people to be the "real bigots". It's not as if my entire argument was hinging on that, anyway. And yours is hinging on pretty much nothing.

You're trying to be intelligent and witty with your Copypasta of my comment. What's irritating is that my sarcasm was 100% spot on in the comments it was in a response to - they were one line assertions, meant to be an entire argument. This is so because I say so in a single line. Whereas I go to lengths to provide actual reason.

Your use of that sarcasm out of context is nothing less than extremely insulting and inappropriate.

Oh I forgot, you're "not arguing" just like Hayo. Then what the hell are you doing? You're just flaming.



 
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6th August, 2007 at 09:12:19 -

Roseweave, did you even look at Axel's, Kitty's or mine comments?
This argument is going no where.

 
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Yes, I have read the whole thing. It's been very entertaining, I even decided not to watch Jeremy Kyle with my dinner and instead rushed back online. I call the argument retarded because you're taking a light hearded game with an artistic license, and making a big fuss over it. In one of my games water could float, plants grew bombs, the devil did a good deed. Of course games are based a little bit in reality so they're consistent and all that bollocks, fankly, my dear, I don't want to play a game that's a 1:1 mirror of reality. "you got shot once! game over!". Soz luv. You should avoid games, real life and friends if you can't distinguish between them and respect each for what it is.

Though like Liji pointed out you seem to blatantly avoid answers and retorts other than attempts at resolving the argument to suit your points so I'm jumping back into the viewing only seat.

 
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6th August, 2007 at 09:35:10 -

I am ensuring my earlier predictions.

"You actl ike I'm less mature yet don't back it up." - Your perception of my actions are not my problem. Just remember it's your perception and no one elses. Prove to me that's what I am doing because I do not agree with you. You may refer to a comment about how comprehendable my posts were; well I act like you are less intelligent for such a comment, and you aren't doing much to prove me wrong either. Studying psychology has not only pointed out some obvious flaws in your personality (which I really hope you get help for), it allows me to notice the way in which you don't address the arguements themselves but address how to argue. (do I need to prove that, it's fairly self evident though). It is a stupid common method people use because they think it works. A little tip for you: when you do that, you think you have a point and you are winning something, but it's not true. Attacking the structure of commonality (i.e. how to argue) gives you the impression you are winning the arguement when in fact it is just a common technique for avoiding the point, and provides another obstacle to distract others from its attention. (Some people like to point out spelling in the middle of an arguement, same principal). You aren't fooling anyone. If you simply admit you were wrong impose your values on Hayo, there will be no further reason to continue such discussions. I don't doubt you wear your pride on your cloak and won't admit to doing anything wrong. I don't claim I have done nothing wrong, but I do claim my response is adequately justified.

 
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6th August, 2007 at 09:55:55 -

"Roseweave, did you even look at Axel's, Kitty's or mine comments? "
yeh or mine

 
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6th August, 2007 at 10:18:34 -

Roseweave, am I mature? Not really. I can be when I feel like it. As there's apparantly no point in having a mature discussion with you, I might as well continue driving you nuts because that is more fun.

MasterM's pic FTW!

 
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6th August, 2007 at 10:23:36 -

Lol.

That is all, thank you.

 
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6th August, 2007 at 10:45:43 -

This isn't the place for this kind of thread - if you have a problem with somebody on the site, you can use the alert system to report them or send one of us a DC mail. If you want to sort problems out with a person themselves, do so by private or instant message. Thanks.

 
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6th August, 2007 at 12:43:55 -

Sorry to unlock, Flava, but I'm just going to throw my two cents in.

I don't know EXACTLY what's been going on recently. Roseweave, I can understand you being frustrated but I need to know a few things.

Did Matt Esch PM you using TDC?
What exactly did he say?

I'm going to give EVERYBODY the opportunity in this thread to contact me by PM to offer their opinions or concerns (WITHOUT swearing) and I will consider what appropriate action to take.

 
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