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27th October, 2006 at 05:14:24 -

Well as some of you will know, I am currently developing a drag-and-drop HTML site builder using MMF2. It is pretty much WYSIWYG and so far it's going really well. In fact, I have pretty much finished the whole application. The only thing is, I can't help but feel that more things need adding to it. Here are the main features:

+ Objects
- Text box
- Image
- Coloured Backdrop
- HTML script

+ File operations
- New file
- Open .wiz file
- Save file
- Save as .wiz file
- Publish as .html file
- Preview in browser

+ Page properties
- Page title
- Page background
- Default hyperlink colours
- Import stylesheet

+ Software update system
+ Software settings (show ID numbers, show borders .etc)

They are the basic features, but one other thing (which I'm proud of! ) is the extensions system. WebWiz will come with documentation that allows anybody with MMF2, to produce extensions and then distribute them to other WebWiz users. These extensions can interact with the application and work-area. There are currently 10 extensions included, which range from 'Insert Flash movie' to 'Insert I-frame' extensions.

What I was wondering, is whether anybody feels anything else could be added to the application which you think will benefit people? I just don't want to end up releasing WebWiz when there are things missing which people might want/need. Also, would there be anybody with MMF2 willing to make some extensions for WebWiz?

I would have posted this on Ectoprods, but it's been down for 3 days (and I'm quite annoyed).

 
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27th October, 2006 at 05:24:08 -

Ectoprods has been down? Since when?

 
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27th October, 2006 at 05:53:39 -

Been down for me for 3 days.
It seems to go down for different people at different times. For example, Shab never has a problem with the site. Yet it goes down a lot for me, meaning I can't update or view anything. A paint in the butt.

 
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27th October, 2006 at 06:17:07 -

Hm, really, I've not had any problems really. No wonder no one posts. Anyways, I'm rather unskilled with html, so I can't really offer any suggestions... maybe a hexidecimal color chart?

 
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27th October, 2006 at 06:33:45 -

Lol! "A paint in the butt."

Whatever floats your boat It all looks pretty darn good to me, though (it could be hard to implement..) but some sort of colour code on the html? Like FF's view source or ideally like DreamWeaver's.. If you get what I mean.

Would include quite a lot of strings and if values etc I spose - its not really vital but'd be cool

Have you included the silly things like marquee's and buttons n stuff? :\

 
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27th October, 2006 at 06:44:04 -

Decent extension support, because I wanna make some

Yeh, and it's got a hex color chart.

 
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27th October, 2006 at 07:00:56 -

@Tim - it's a drag and drop editor, so wouldn't display HTML? Not quite sure what you mean.. Also yes it has marquee scripts although I obviously can't make those WYSIWYG.

 
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27th October, 2006 at 07:32:27 -

If you have Firefox, open up this page and go to view source - there in the first few lines the tags and criteria and comments etc are differential by their colours

e.g. tags = purple
comments = greeeen

If it doesn't have a "html editor" thing then that's fair enough - though I'd encourage one!! Even if it is wysiwyg - as that's not always the most accurate approach? :\ I love the program so far, obviously a lot of work here - especially like the import stylesheet

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27th October, 2006 at 07:45:47 -

If possible the output could be indented correctly and make sure all the code it inserts is xHTML Strict. Also remember to convert text to HTML entities like " & etc.

Just a few suggestions.

-Lewis

 
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27th October, 2006 at 08:00:44 -

Is there anything else you guys would like?
If not then I'll release and then provide updates as necessary..

 
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27th October, 2006 at 08:17:44 -

Sounds gd to me - release away

 
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27th October, 2006 at 08:48:46 -

Uhh okay then!

 
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27th October, 2006 at 11:23:30 -

I miss teh ability to make relative pages -- you know, ones that are able to resize when you resize the window. Everything seems to be absolute in WebWiz.

 
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27th October, 2006 at 13:12:34 -

Why would you want to do that? Oh well, I guess it won't look equally good on different resolutions, with absolute positions.

 
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27th October, 2006 at 13:15:23 -

As far as I am aware, if absolute positioning wasn't used then it wouldn't be a WYSIWYG editor?
I see what you mean and everything, but oh well - I'll investigate into putting relative positioning options on.

 
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27th October, 2006 at 15:01:15 -

Mozilla Composer can do relative stuff, and it's still a WYSIWYG editor... It'd look different if you resize, too.

You only have to go as far with relative stuff as being able to use percentages to set the block's positions and sizes... Nothing more.

 
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27th October, 2006 at 15:11:49 -

A good way to insert flash animations would be good, along with size, bg color, and other stuff like menu settings.

 
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29th October, 2006 at 07:44:22 -

Anchors, like <a name=#top>top of page</a>.. I guess thats kinda picky but the more features the merrier? might be "<a link.." or something - I forget.

 
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29th October, 2006 at 07:58:09 -

<a href="#top">Top of the page</a>

then at the top of the page you have
<a name="top"></a>

 
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29th October, 2006 at 08:39:34 -

Hehe that's the one.. I should know really

Some kinda form creation majig would be amazingly cool, like creating easy contact forms etc. There's just too many possible features here! Just depends on the time effort and patience Flava has I guess

 
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30th October, 2006 at 04:35:42 -

I didn't find an undo or redo option. It's really missing.

Also missing: property boxes for images, colour boxes and HTML boxes. These need at least size and colour setup windows, so one doesn't make a mistake the first time around.

EDIT: the scrollbar is also quite broken.
EDIT 2: and layering / editing a seperate layer / showing and hiding layers / changing the layer of an object.
EDIT 3: And selecting multiple objects could be improved. Like adding a 'select all' button, and dragging to select objects.

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