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Joe.H

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26th October, 2006 at 06:04:56 -

First over-pricing PS3, now closing Lik-Sang because they sell some sony stuff.

Oh the horror.

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26th October, 2006 at 06:29:36 -

Sony is roughly as evil as every other big company, but their console division is just really blatant about it.
In the case of Lik-Sang, it was partly their own fault. They were in breach of contract for selling stock designated only for asia overseas, and they ignored the warnings for months. However, Sony did the nastiest thing possible: sued them in like 17 countries simultaneously. Even if Lik-Sang won every single case, the legal fees would put them out of business. And they'd only have to lose one to be screwed anyway.
INCREDIBLY stupid on Sony's part, they're already widely hated and they aren't doing anything to help their image immediately prior to a major product launch.

But, this isn't the first time they've shut down (iirc it was Nintendo that sued them last time). Odds are they'll be back in some form in a couple of months.

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26th October, 2006 at 06:39:34 -

Let's wait for the PS3 fanboys.

 
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26th October, 2006 at 11:45:39 -

Hmmm... now lets see...

Sony: Suing Lik-Sang, overpricing PS3.
Microsoft: Pretty much a monopoly on operating systems. Attempting to claim monopolies on other fields as well. I recall reading that the norwegian goverment switched to Linux so they wouldn't have to pay Microsoft licenses! Also, a revision in later Xboxes made to prevent Linux running on them also made a few legit games incompatible with higher resolution modes.
Nintendo: Monopoly on video games in america during the 8-bit era. Developers not allowed to port their NES games to other consoles.
Sega: Only supplying Saturn to four major retail chains at first.
Atari & Mattel (back in the late 70s-early 80s): Forcing their programmers to be anonymous, so competing software developers wouldn't "steal them".

So they're all pretty much evil.

 
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26th October, 2006 at 13:26:35 -

World wide releases should make an end to this!
And with world wide releases it's truely global as they pretend to be, but in fact they are shielding different markets, for example: Europe, Japan and US.

That only is to make more profit on the same product, because Europeans always pay high prices for those products, which will only be realesed like years after the first release in Japan.

Too bad to see lik-sang leaving ...

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26th October, 2006 at 13:45:37 -

I agree with Jenswa. Global releases FTW!

 
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26th October, 2006 at 15:20:14 -

I had confidence that the PS3 was going to do very well, and I could admit that I have a lot of strong feelings for Sony in defending them. This entire thing though, over pricing it, and now stores only having a FEW (literately). I don't plan to get a PS3 for at least a couple of years, it's not worth all the trouble. I'll stick with the PC, thanks.

PS: I just got the WarChiefs expansion pack for Age of Empires 3 yesterday, it's awesome, I'm just glad they didn't charge a full fledged $50 for it, because it's not worth it. $30 was very reasonable.

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26th October, 2006 at 20:07:55 -

I don't think ps3 will sell anywhere near as much as the last two generations. Infact i suspect it will be quite close between the three consoles.

Sony got lucky with the psone because they chose the cd media (n64 had cartridges) and Sega failed to release a killer app for the saturn to compete with final fantasy 7. Oh and it was easier to develop for.

With the ps2 they got by on brand name popularity, the dreamcast was unlucky to be withdrawn and it was out before the xbox and gamecube (which are both considerably more powerfull)
Oh and next gen versions of it's old hits helped out too (grand theft auto, gran turismo, tekken, metal gear solid etc)

With the ps3? it will be out last, it will be expensive to buy and develop for, it will use expensive data storage.

Of course noone can know how things will work out, but it's looking bad for sony imo.

 
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26th October, 2006 at 23:24:13 -

I hate Sony.
Sony is the worst of the big companies. They make trashy products and sell them at ridiculous prices. Heck, even random Chinese companies make more reliable products than Sony and they cost 4 times less! If the PS3 fails, they're dead. But seeing how MS messed up the X360, I think that the 'hardcore' anti-Nintendo freaks will still keep one alive.

The other big companies may be as evil if not more evil (you guys forgot Apple, Disney), but at least they make decent products. Windows may be slow and buggy, but it's got features that Linux doesn't have.

I'd say the Wii is the best of the new-gen consoles, may be the weakest, but it's the best priced, looks nice, and should have plenty of fun games. Every game on the X360 (and most on the PS3) will be out on a PC so might as well get a Wii.

 
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27th October, 2006 at 15:14:07 -

I agree with Muz, if anything, I'll be getting the Wii.

 
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27th October, 2006 at 17:35:24 -

"Monopoly on video games in america during the 8-bit era. Developers not allowed to port their NES games to other consoles."

That statement is bullshit. The publishers signed an exclusivity deal with Nintendo, and the reason it was done was because at that time, the NES was the only game in town (Unless you count the Master System, which never had a huge following over here), and if I remember correctly, if they signed as exclusive; their liscencing fees went down a slight bit. Once you were under the contract you can bet your ass that if you violated it, The Big N would be all over you. There were countless games that were C64/NES/SMS/Atari/etc.

If I had to pick an evil side for Nintendo, it'd be their lawyers during the late 80's. They did/tried to sue magazines/publishers/developers/fan gamers. (Hmmmm, Lik Sang anyone)?

Fortunately, most of these heavy armed tactics left with the former president.
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Microsoft's Gaming division is not at fault with the operating systems; why you're sticking that to them I have no idea. They lied too much in the first generation (Pre launch of the original XBox), but they learned their lesson. They've been very up front with people, and I hope this trend continues. Also, Microsoft's manufacturing has improved (unlike some OTHER company). I will be buying an X360 at some point.

 
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27th October, 2006 at 18:34:58 -

Nintendo didn't have to stop companies from releasing games on other formats, because like you said Shab, there was no competition. But they did put that into their contracts and it was to stop any other companies (Sega for instance) Gaining any possible market share.

It's pretty devious i think.

 
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30th October, 2006 at 15:08:46 -

As much as I hate Sony, their console is technically under priced; they are loosing money. For what you are physically getting it's a good deal. Same with 360.

With the Wii it's not. It does not cost anywhere near 250 to make(well, maybe just under 200). It's basically a slightly tweaked game cube, and the controller is just a remote with tilt sensors and an accelerometers. Hardly rocket science


Not to mention we're paying roughly $315 for the Wii here, for no good reason.

I love the Wii the same way I love collector's action figures - they're great, but nothing goes into them that really warrants the price.

 
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30th October, 2006 at 19:57:55 -

Yeah, fuck forbid anyone actually makes a profit on something they're selling.

 
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30th October, 2006 at 20:02:59 -

Nintendo don't have the financial clout to compete with Sony and Microsoft. So they're trying something different and it's working. People are interested in trying something different.

Also i hardly think it's a slightly tweaked Gamecube. It is a considerable jump over the previous generations of consoles. Just not as much as the other two consoles.

 
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