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22nd October, 2006 at 06:49:30 -

A little something I wrote yesterday. All the Wii fan boys are going to cry their eyes out. Or something.

http://hooplanet-forums.fzgames.com/index.php?showtopic=94

 
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22nd October, 2006 at 07:37:33 -

That's a pretty stupid comparison, since we KNOW two of them are loss leaders and one isn't.

 
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22nd October, 2006 at 07:59:44 -

Sucks. Wii will rule.

 
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22nd October, 2006 at 12:24:36 -

Fanboy argument. Sucks.

 
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22nd October, 2006 at 12:34:45 -

Been watching the PS3 gameplay videos and I think they look awesome (I mean the actual gameplay, not just the graphics).
Although I still won't be buying a 360, Wii or a PS3.

360 - I don't think it's next gen, it's just a better Xbox to me.
Wii - I would be quite embarassed if I was seen swinging a remote around my living room
PS3 - Too expensive, and still I don't see anything really next-gen about it

I'll probably just upgrade my PC or something.

 
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22nd October, 2006 at 12:43:05 -

"Wii - I would be quite embarassed if I was seen swinging a remote around my living room"

Why? Whos gonna see you? Millions will be.


 
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22nd October, 2006 at 12:48:53 -

Hey Phred, you do understand that Mhz is not really comparable between three machines that use different processors.

Otherwise you could argue that the Snes was a rip off compared to the Megadrive (Genesis) because of it's lower clock rates.

Computers and Consoles are much more complex than their Mhz clock speed.


Also Final fantasy 7 isn't all the great mate, 9 and 10 are better overall. 8 is a tough one to decide on but it's cleary an improvement on 7.

 
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22nd October, 2006 at 12:56:54 -

I just watched my brother play them when they were out. I liked 9 for the more cutesy animal characters, but Tidus was a very cool character in 10.

 
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22nd October, 2006 at 13:45:39 -

I would be quite embarassed if I was seen swinging a remote around my living room
I fucking hate the way the people on the wii ads make total gimps of themselves. You can play everything with simple flicks of the wrist, so don't worry, it doesn't count as exercise. If I ever jump around on my couch swinging a controller dressed like a metro faggot with a big grin on my face, look for brain worms.

 
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22nd October, 2006 at 14:49:13 -

Hey Phred, you do understand that Mhz is not really comparable between three machines that use different processors.

Pretty much the first thing I said: Here's a very unscientific comparison of the three next-gen consoles.

Also Final fantasy 7 isn't all the great mate, 9 and 10 are better overall. 8 is a tough one to decide on but it's cleary an improvement on 7.

Honestly, FFIX is my favourite. I just love Vivi! Storywise though, FFVII is better. I've played the demo of FFXII but I hated the battle system.

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22nd October, 2006 at 21:23:05 -

Wow, the little ad-thing at the bottom of the page just showed a picture of the WII saying "I JUST SAVED BIG MONEY ON THE NEXT GEN GAMES"



Anyway, the Wii is the only innovative of the three systems. The others are just rehashes of the old with better graphics and slightly faster gameplay. That's basically it.

 
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23rd October, 2006 at 08:29:54 -

Anyway, the Wii is the only innovative of the three systems. The others are just rehashes of the old with better graphics and slightly faster gameplay. That's basically it.

Unlike Wii, which is half as fast as the other systems, and the same graphic resolution as a Dreamcast (note: I'm not bashing the DC, it's a cool console). But who cares! You got a wiitard, excuse me, wiimote to wave around with

 
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23rd October, 2006 at 09:21:57 -

People don't like fanboys for a reason. Give it a fucking rest, dude.

 
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23rd October, 2006 at 14:09:20 -

360 will be the best cause it will have banjo!

 
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23rd October, 2006 at 15:55:13 -

First they don't have to fuck Banjo-Kazooie 3 up.

 
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23rd October, 2006 at 20:04:08 -

I'm not a fanboy, I haven't bought anything from nintendo for about 6 years. I'm just saying that the Wii is cool, but I think all of today's consoles are just rehashes of old consoles with better graphics. I'm definetly not getting any of the three, I'm just saying I like the Wii more.

 
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23rd October, 2006 at 21:09:44 -

I was talking to Phredreeke.

 
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24th October, 2006 at 08:10:19 -

I said:

Unlike Wii, which is half as fast as the other systems, and the same graphic resolution as a Dreamcast (note: I'm not bashing the DC, it's a cool console). But who cares! You got a wiitard, excuse me, wiimote to wave around with

That's just Wii bashing, if I was a fanboy, it would be something like this:

But 360 is twice as fast as Wii, and three times higher resolution. And it has a REAL controller, not a wiitarded remote.

I'm not a 360 fanboy. If you're talking about the comparison I wrote on hooplanet forums, I hope you realize it is a joke. You can't compare consoles out of mere specs.

 
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24th October, 2006 at 18:51:55 -

"Pretty much the first thing I said: Here's a very unscientific comparison of the three next-gen consoles."

The you went on to list the price per mhz. Which is pointless for the reason i stated.


The Wii is still a heck of a lot faster the the current generation of consoles, You may even find that it's hard to tell the difference in power between the Wii and the others.

 
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24th October, 2006 at 21:56:02 -

You used the word 'wiitard', phredreeke. Retarded terms like that are the mating call of the dipshit fanboy.

 
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24th October, 2006 at 22:28:24 -

I remember the UK N64 magazine used to refer to the PS as "Greystation" and DC as "Dreampants". Journalistic integrity at its best.

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25th October, 2006 at 12:15:11 -

I always find it amuzing when people dig themselves a hole, and now that he is in so deep, he's trying to dig himself out. Yea right it was a joke, if you could..you'd have sent that to the advocate magazine, or out magazine! Or lesbians R US! lol

 
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25th October, 2006 at 13:12:31 -

The very first thing I said was that the comparison was unscientific, and the last thing I said was to buy the console with games you want to play The comparison is unscientific and more of a joke. A reasonable person, like AndyUK, would realize the flaws of it. I wanted to counter the Wii fanboys "It's cheaper!" argument, and hopefully make them shed a tear in the process.

Before you call me a 360 fanboy, realize that I don't even have a 360! I'm gonna buy one yes, but not this year, I'll buy one once the games I really want come out (Soul Calibur 4 and Banjo 3). Then hopefully some of the titles I'm interested in now, but not enough to buy the console for, has dropped in price (Perfect Dark Zero, Kameo, Dead or Alive 4).

Now, I will tell you the winner of the console wars... IBM! They designed both the 360 and Wii processors, and they co-developed the PS3 processor with Sony and Toshiba.

 
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25th October, 2006 at 13:53:03 -

I was hoping for some math. Instead, I get comparison of three gaming systems.

 
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25th October, 2006 at 14:09:05 -

I divided the CPU speed with the cost of the console. Division is math.

 
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25th October, 2006 at 14:59:00 -

I didn't call you a 360 fanboy, I called just called you a fanboy in general, because that's what you're acting like.

I wanted to counter the Wii fanboys "It's cheaper!" argument
You failed pretty hard at that, considering that it is, in fact, cheaper. And the price really isn't a major attraction anyway. And that the two others are known loss leaders, meaning it's expected that they'd be fractionally more expensive per component--because Nintendo isn't giving away free hardware like the others are. *Nobody* is surprised by this.

You want some maths? The majority of users here are european, which means they're getting raped on consoles anyway (because euros = US dollars, right?).

Wii: US$249, €249 (US$315) | 315-249=US$66 markup
360: US$399, €399 (US$500) | 500-399=US$101 markup
PS3: US$599, €599 (US$750) | 750-599=US$151 markup

Regardless of how many cents more the cover screws on the wii's front flap cost, the relative markup on the other two far overshadows this as far as most of us here care (and brits get to pay even more). Microsoft and Sony are inflicting 34.7% and 56% more rape respectively.
And NONE OF THIS HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE GAMES, which should be the ONLY reason you buy a console. You don't win anything because a console you don't own is inferior in some way, and starting arguments about which one is bestest on the internet doesn't do anything other than making you a fanboy and giving those of us planning on buying two or more consoles (or just plain don't care) something to laugh at.

 
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25th October, 2006 at 15:02:55 -

The Wii is cheaper, but not compared to what you get

 
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25th October, 2006 at 23:30:55 -

Again, EVERYONE KNOWS they aren't selling by a loss. This is not some astounding revelation.

Additionally a value comparison is only relevant between different quantities of three identical products. These aren't simply boxes of ram or processing. In this case all three consoles have different services and product focuses: if you think all three are interchangeable, you're an idiot. But that would be a wierd paradox for a fanboy like you, wouldn't it?

 
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26th October, 2006 at 16:24:59 -

OHHHH no, FF7 was the best game out on PS - easy. It was comparable if not better than Zelda OoT for N64. The graphics didn't give you much to look at but the storyline and gameplay in that specifically was amazing. FF8 comes a close second out of the Final Fantasy range. Nine and Ten were pretty but they lost the plot after that. All in my opinion anyway.

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26th October, 2006 at 17:38:53 -

Yeah they're all seperate stories obviously.. lol

Its a figure of speech - in other words the Producers lost the plot / ran out of ideas

 
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26th October, 2006 at 19:56:51 -

The next game in line, 12, isn't even out yet.
And 7 wasn't that great.

Who are the Wii fanboys anyway? Ive not heard any anti 360 banter at all and anything ive heard about the ps3 has been almost justified.

But maybe ive only seen intellegent conversations on this so far.

 
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