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6th August, 2006 at 16:37:10 -

Okay, i just want to know your opinion on whether you should use original graphics or ripped graphics in klik-games.
So far, ill vote for original. BUT, what if the original graphics was so awful, that your eyes hurt everytime you saw them. Still better than ripped graphics?
Thats what i want to test. So therefore ive made this little 'test' with 4 different games. To the left, is the beautifully sprited ripped graphics from the game. To the right, is my own made graphics, original graphics.
Now, youre not supposed to say which one is the prettiest, youre supposed to vote at the one you would like to see in a TGF OR MMF FAN-GAME!!! Ripped... or original?

GAME 1: Kirbys Adventure
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GAME 2: Super Metroid
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GAME 3: Blackthorne
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GAME 4: ET
http://www.atariguide.com/ss/et.gif vs Image

Tell if you prefer RIP or ORIGINAL for the 4 various games. Lol omg ive just wasted my time

 

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6th August, 2006 at 16:53:41 -

Well, it depends on if you actually put some EFFORT into the graphics; you just made them shit to get your point across.

 
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6th August, 2006 at 17:45:39 -

I put effort to them.
That took me 4 days of hard work.

 

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6th August, 2006 at 17:48:50 -

Liar!

 
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6th August, 2006 at 17:57:24 -

Yes im lying.

 

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6th August, 2006 at 18:00:34 -

I made this for three reasons.
1. I was bored
2. Nothing interesting on tv
3. I wanted to point out that not everyone can do graphics so well, so stop bashing people for ripped graphics

 

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6th August, 2006 at 18:29:01 -

well, if you're not good in graphics, why not try to find someone to help you with that? There are plenty of talented people here. Although getting one to help you will be a challenge, but it's worth a shot. Also, just keep practicing as well, and you surely will improve.

 
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6th August, 2006 at 20:22:48 -

I would never rip into someone for using ripped graphics. However it rarely makes your life easier.
You see, you need to get the graphics spot on, otherwise people will pick holes in them. Also the game has to play exactly like the game it looks like.

If you rip kirby graphics you will have to make the game just like the kirby games and you will get marked down for anything you've missed out.
Now if you make your own character that is similar to kirby, you can leave a few things out and noone will have a right to complain because then it's your game.

 
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6th August, 2006 at 20:27:03 -

How can you feel rewarded using other peoples GFX? Making sprites is very rewarding, especially when you learn over some months and slowly skills improve



 
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7th August, 2006 at 06:11:44 -

^I agree.

If you're not so good at graphics, try and find somebody to help you or practise and learn yourself.

 
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7th August, 2006 at 06:47:21 -

The problem with drawing own graphix is (at least for me) that drawing the graphix sometimes takes almost 1/2 of the time it takes to create the game.

I agree with adam, I am drawing my graphix myself because I actually likes to draw them (even if I still am quite bad at it). The thing that I say is that I can understand why some ripps graphix, it cuts down the time it takes to make the game and it do mostly not affect the gameplay (at least not very much.) For example I likes lost valley very much even if they uses ripped graphix.

But this maybe only is my opinion

 
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7th August, 2006 at 07:24:11 -

I'm decent at graphics, but I've been going for minimalism lately because I don't have much patience. It's not hard to make original graphics not look like shit, really. There just doesn't seem to be much overlap between people capable of not sucking and those that use rips. It can be done well, but it usually isn't.

 
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7th August, 2006 at 07:30:27 -

I also used photoshop effects with pixel-work at one point, I dunno what I was thinking, it was terrible -_-

 
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7th August, 2006 at 07:51:45 -

You haven't put any effort into those graphics though Skydragon.

Here, read these articles:
http://www.create-games.com/article.asp?id=1634
http://www.petesqbsite.com/sections/tutorials/tuts/tsugumo/
http://www.create-games.com/article.asp?id=1414
http://www.jonnycomics.com/tutorial01.htm

Come back when you've put some honest work into it.

 
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7th August, 2006 at 07:54:07 -

Im thinking he wasn't being that serious, but I can never tell with him lol

 
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7th August, 2006 at 08:31:57 -

You all say "find somebody to help you with graphics" - but it's not actually that easier.
There may be a lot of talent people - but none of them want to help anybody. It's like for TDC game, the only person I can find to help out is Adam, and even he can't dedicate is full time to the project _

 
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7th August, 2006 at 08:43:52 -

LOL OMG! -_- Well I do have like 3 major projects also. I have some time of work this week so Ill happily start making some things

 
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7th August, 2006 at 12:14:43 -

Yea and I said that it would be hard finding someone to help. Everyone here had a good suggestion though. Just keep on practicing

 
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7th August, 2006 at 15:32:19 -

I bet I have more work to do than most of the people that turned you down, Flava Maybe if I was chosen as an artist the first time round , the TDC game would have my full dedication In that time, however, I joined a cute little klik-group and have major projects on the way, but dont worry Ill still help. *halo shines*

 
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13th August, 2006 at 02:14:38 -

Well if you are making a fangame I can understand. But in that situation, they better look good. Example; no missing frames, don't use a graphic from kirby's pinball mixed with something from kirby's superstar, etc.

If you are making an original game, and you are using some hero sprite from some old genesis game, and you're calling him artemus, that's just retarded. Especially if you're putting artemus in with graphics from a completely different genesis game. Designers spend lots of time getting the graphics to mesh well, it looks like shit if you use a sprite from a genesis game from 1989, that's missing frames, and has bolded lines, and put him in a game from 95 with detailed graphics.

Basically mixing any sprites looks like crap. Original with ripped, ripped with ripped from another game. . . if you have to at least know how to make everything coherent.

 
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