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norfair



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24th February, 2006 at 01:20:06 -

Greets.

Topic of public interest: share some of your clever and always good tips or theories to make smoother games.

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Radix says:
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norfair



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24th February, 2006 at 01:30:39 -


MMF

- proprieties of application -

For few colour gfx - reduce the graphic mode to 32768 colours or even lower(that also should reduce the file size)

- frame editor -

Cheaper collisions of utilitaristic objects : - proprieties - uncheck the fine detection box in the collisions

Always invisible objects: - proprieties - uncheck the visible at start box in the display options instead of make a massive make invisible event to all these objects at the start of frame.



ps- I know that these arent really pearls... hope someone knows something better


 
Radix says:
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24th February, 2006 at 01:50:23 -

Event editor
Avoid always conditions with any actions that use moderate CPU power, but use them instead of using timer conditions on things you need repeated every loop.

With heavy calculations, put them in a Not Active at Start (NAAS) event group and activate them only when they are used. For example, if it's a constantly used formula (e.g. calculating range/distance between enemy and player), calculate it only when the enemy is about to shoot and can see the player. If it's something that has to always be used (e.g. calculating line of sight), try to calculate it in only one event, place the calculated answer in some data storage, and use that number instead of the formula, when needed. [Obvious, quite important tip, but one that many, including myself tend to forget]

Active objects
Keep animation frames to a minimum, use anything other than top-view, so you won't have to do 32-directions per animation (thus keeping animation power minimized).

Run-time
Use minimum resolution so the screen won't have to process so many things at once.


Eh, I know a lot more, but can't think of them for now.

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24th February, 2006 at 02:47:03 -

Do not use the awful 'resize display to fill current window size'.

 
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24th February, 2006 at 12:57:19 -

About formulae calculation - I think events with multiple conditions are always handled from the top down, so using this:

(Player presses Fire button)
+ (Massive formula to calculate line of sight)

would be a lot more efficient than having the two events the other way round - the formula is only run through if the first condition has already taken place. Otherwise, it would be calculated in each frame, and the results discarded.

 
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24th February, 2006 at 16:28:38 -

MMF

- events -

Dont repeat conditions:
So make only one always condition and put all events related on that single line instead of making several alwayses.
Same thing with all simple conditions, shared commands, or start/end of frame or , etc.

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Radix says:
It's regrettable that TDC is the arsehole of the click scene, but somewhere has to be.

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24th February, 2006 at 23:32:00 -

Abobut the "resize display to fill window size"

a. It works much better if you resize it by 2x or 4x. Like, if you rezize a 640x480 playfield to fit in a 320x678 window, it will run horribly, whereas resizing a 320x240 playfield to a 640x480 window runs pretty smoothly. Look at Blokkoland.


 
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25th February, 2006 at 01:39:24 -

It's still a horribly slow way of resizing. However changing the desktop resolution to something lower (like 640x480) speeds it up.
It looks scruffy if the original window size is not exactly half or one quarter of the desktop resolution.

Of course Multimedia fusion can make the desktop size 320x240 during runtime which TGF cannot. So only us TGFers have that problem.

 
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26th February, 2006 at 03:21:47 -

MMF 1.x can't do proper v-syncing because it cant go above 50FPS, but once MMF2 is out crank up the FPS to 100 and enable v-sync and your apps will look 5x better.

 
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27th February, 2006 at 14:28:13 -

MMF

- events -

avoid using collision command when it's possible ( for example, related between 2 moving actives) - the overlapping does the same with less detection.

 
Radix says:
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27th February, 2006 at 16:25:14 -

I mean, 2 non-stationary actives = path stuff, balls, everything--

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Radix says:
It's regrettable that TDC is the arsehole of the click scene, but somewhere has to be.

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27th February, 2006 at 17:08:10 -

An idea for keeping particle effects low would be to make the game check where allot of particles are together, and then remove allot of them & replace them with objects that look like allot of particles together. That way you get the appearance of thousands of particles, but you only have like 10 objects!

 
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27th February, 2006 at 18:16:40 -

MMF
use the alpha channel object, if you can.
works great, and it's smooth since can be displayed as background (box cheched by default)

 
Radix says:
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27th February, 2006 at 21:14:08 -

The alpha channel object is nice yes, but not good at all for this version of MMF... it KILLS frame rate, frame rate that is already being murdered by MMF's frame rate limit of 50fps.

In addition, the only reason the collision with object doesnít work with custom movement is because just 1 pixel over a backdrop of object is considered overlapping and 1 pixel off is considered not overlapping, so its either overlapping or not. On collision is built for basic movement and basic movement only, because basic movement supplies the event trigger when it hits another object, custom movement doesnít, & canít.

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norfair



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28th February, 2006 at 02:02:25 -

awww I thought alpha channel were better than actrives because it can be displayed as background, and in fact I always got good results in comparison to an active object usage.

Anyway its good to have explored the issue, thanks ^_

 
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