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15th November, 2005 at 20:39:31 -

when was i ignorant. and what wud pakistan have to do with it. Don't get me wrong, i cud be wrong. Most of the stuff i say is either my opinion or "what i hear".
i have a pakistani friend that told me that pakistan had little wars going on between them. Probably a society thing. but i dunno. given he himself was pakistani i figured he'd be a reliable source for information ON pakistan. Et voila, ive just explained myself.

 
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16th November, 2005 at 02:47:29 -

I don't really know why, but it seems that people tend to bias themselves either heavily against or towards their own race. I've met plenty of people who say Malaysians are rude, polite, etc, but if some of these Malaysians just went out and stayed in another country for a while, they can see that every human being, regardless of culture, is either rude or polite.

Meh, most of the countries have little wars among themselves. "Developed" countries have little wars between men and women saying they don't get equal treatment, despite the existence of women groups, the lack of existence of men groups, equal pay, maternity leave, etc. There will always be riots, protests against the government, races and sub-races (people of some races from different states) fighting for territory & equality, etc. I'm so damn sick of all the discrimination and all the people who fight against discrimination that doesn't exist. Hmm.. I seem a bit angry this week .

Oh well, we all base our information on what we hear. There's nothing we could believe, especially when the press exaggerates things just to sell more newspapers. There's some things we aren't allowed to believe, like the existence of God, the theory of evolution, the idea that the 3 main monotheistic religions are worshipping the same God, clones having souls, Satan is an angel, our armies killing innocent babies, etc. Suggest such things in the newspapers and you'll get fired. Suggest such things in a forum topic and it could get locked.

But then, it happens. Theories are proven false. Pictures and movies are shown of some innocent western journalists' and tourists' head being chopped off. Pictures are shown of innocent Palestinian kids with bullets in them. But the unfair deaths are unintentional. It's only evil when you kill someone who'd kill you back.

Who are the bad guys? Who are the good guys? Why should we really care at all? After all, everyone dies eventually, what's another quick, painful death mean to us? I guess the easiest answer to this question is that whatever side we're on is "good", and whatever happens to the "evil" people is well-deserved. After all, we're good people, whenever another good person gets hurt, we have to feel sorry for them. Wouldn't they do the same for us?

Damn, I've confused myself again. I feel like deleting this thread..

 
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17th November, 2005 at 15:06:24 -

UGH I HATE Politics

 
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17th November, 2005 at 15:35:18 -

That could be because you're a naive 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,001-year old.

 
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17th November, 2005 at 16:36:38 -

So what if i'm older than politics (and the universe itself), I'd hate them even if I was a young'n. I know that this stuff is important to many people , but it's not my problem. If some guy decides to blow up my house I have a problem; but if it's just some guy making a whole bunch of (stupid) speaches, why should I care?

 
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17th November, 2005 at 16:57:28 -

QUOTE:If some guy decides to blow up my house I have a problem UNQUOTE

So the poor sods who got blown up in London 7/7 aren't a problem cos it ain't your house??? mmmmm......

 
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17th November, 2005 at 17:02:41 -

Well, I care what happens to those people, it's just not my problem and I don't need to know about it. There isn't much I can do about terrorism, so I'll just let the government do all of the work while I'm having fun.

 
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17th November, 2005 at 20:20:28 -

I think you are little whining people, and you should shut up. Saddam was a terrorist too, and this is a war on terrorists, therefore, he is taken out too. Stop crying... wars make history class fun. If people die, who cares... they don't have to live a long boring life anyways, and they are possibly living a better life somewhere else. Bush isnt the problem. He doesnt even run the country. Hes like a mascot. A stupid badass mascot. Microsoft Runs the US.

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18th November, 2005 at 00:53:09 -

Who cares if people die?!

That was heartless.

But personally, I support the war too.

 
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18th November, 2005 at 08:46:55 -

Muz is right, but his point is a little misguided. Democracy never works perfectly, you're right. The same as communism never works, monarchy, republicanism - no one government system will ever work perfectly, due to greed, discrimination and all of humanities failings. But to say that democracy isn't a good idea is wrong, and I'm convinced it is the only feasible strategy in today's world.

And on the Pakistani thing - Pakistan and India have been engaged in conflict for as long as Pakistan has been around. The main agenda being Kashmir, and who owns it. Isn't really a war because neither country has declared it, and mainly because war would be politically and economically damaging for both countries, them being developing nations. So the animosity will continue just like it has done for 30-40 odd years, and will only end if a diplomatic agreement signed by both about Kashmir is made.

 
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18th November, 2005 at 09:11:03 -

Well, I care what happens to those people, it's just not my problem and I don't need to know about it. There isn't much I can do about terrorism, so I'll just let the government do all of the work while I'm having fun.

One reason why terrorism still even exists is that so many people think like you. Don't you see, in a few decades you will BE the government.

 
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18th November, 2005 at 21:06:13 -

In a few decades I might be in the government. First of all, now is not a few decades from now. Second of all, not very many people ever will be gevernment; In a few years i'll have the right to vote, but that's different.
Maybe I wasn't clear enough in my last post. Terrorism is kinda my problem, because they could attack me at any time; it's very very unlikely, but not completely impossible. It's just not my job to help track down the terrorists from London, NYC, or any other place. I'm just some kid who doesn't really follow the news or anything. It's kinda hard to explain really, I care, but it's just not my problem.

 
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27th November, 2005 at 16:40:59 -

The American government works so well cause it is based on lies. The easiest way to get these lies across to the people is simple, they raise their children with them. The American public school system is the weakest form of brainwashing evar. I mean come on, the christains have been doing it forever.

If you really sat their and thought about it, the stuff they teach you in history class really doesn't add up. IE, the whole slavery issue. Lincoln wasn't on some crusade to free the slaves. That war wasn't even fought for slavery, that's just what we force fed our children. The war was fought to keep the south from being independant, and they we're no less evil than the north, the north had slaves, the north didn't care about blacks. Hell, Lincoln didn't even free the slaves, it was that ammendment that was passed way later after he died.

The war is being fought for nothing more than oil. Why don't you think that Bush doesn't go after the more threatening powers, such as North Korea? The only thing that is different between Iraq and NK is the fact that Iraq has oil.

Two of my very best friends are fighting in this war, and they are terribly miserable. The stories they tell me are just appauling. It's totally unneccessary for America to be there.

Democracy is over-rated. There are other more stable forms of government that can work without lying to the people, but everyone has been told since they were little that Democracy is the only way. It's a shame that Confederacy gets such a bad rap, because it's problably the most stable type of government.

 
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27th November, 2005 at 17:13:55 -

Hmm, well you've got a point about the slavery thing, but I don't think they're brainwashing kids (like me) to think that the American government is perfect. I go to public school and I still hate George Bush and think that he's doing an awful job. I don't, however, think that the whole government is flawed, I think it's just not doing so well not 'cause of George Bush; Maybe they are brainwashing me into thinking that, I cannot be sure. I think Oil probabally was the main cause of the War in Iraq; all of the major gas companies probabally had a lot to do with it. I just hope we get a better president in 2008.

 
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27th November, 2005 at 17:43:18 -

Yeah, the whole concept of brainwashing is very fickle. Look around at some of your classmates. How many of them actually pay attention in school? Depending on how adjusted they are to their education, how do they shape their governmental beliefs.

Eh, who knows.

 
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