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12th May, 2005 at 02:36:04 -

I was wonder if Windows XP is good or not...lol
I'm using Windows 98se now and Im happy with it, but the problem is I can't get damn Adobe After Effects, etc. to install or wrk cause they need Windos XP.

What are some of the problems with XP and I heard it runns slower or something..?
Any help would be sweet...lol...or should I just wait for LongHorn or was that LegHorn?
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12th May, 2005 at 02:48:18 -

Ive been running XP for awhile now and i prefer it over Win98, Just make sure you have a minimum of 256MB RAM, Windows XP takes a bit of ram from what i hear, so 256MB should be the minimium for XP to run smooth.

 
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12th May, 2005 at 03:06:03 -

I've been running win2K pro for a while now, it's basically XP minus the shiny. It'll do me fine until Longhorn comes out.

 
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12th May, 2005 at 04:47:59 -

you cant tell any diff in speed in XP with a good comp. Adobe after effects requires a good amount of processing power anyway, it would be hell to try and run it on a comp that struggles with XP. Anyway XP is pretty fast on 1.5 GHZ, 256mbram and up. Of course you need a good graphics and video card too if you're working with video.

 
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12th May, 2005 at 04:53:46 -

In my opinion WinXP sucks i prefer Win98. But i use WinXP just because some new programs require WinXP. My processor is P3 933 and it works fine on my pc and i have 512mb ram.

 
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12th May, 2005 at 06:29:17 -

I stayed away from XP for ages because of the lack of backwards compatibility and the way that it seems to hide as much of the computer from you as it can at first - however, you can change that so that the interface is more like 98. It's also a lot more stable than Windows 98 ever was - you can reliably close any programs that have crashed rather than pressing Ctrl-Alt-Del and hoping the computer doesn't decide it can't do anything.

 
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12th May, 2005 at 06:29:21 -

I prefer XP, I've used every version of Windows and XP, believe it or not, is by far the most stable. The problem with Windows2K is there are a lot of compatability issues which are mostly fixed in XP due to the Compatibility modes. I originally had 98 on my PC, and when I changed to XP there was a definate speed upgrade (and the less said about WindowsME, the better).

 
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12th May, 2005 at 07:45:03 -

I'm on W2K, XP without the shiny. I've never had problems with any programs that weren't DOS, and you have dosbox for that (and you get the same problem on XP anyway).

 
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12th May, 2005 at 07:57:38 -

Asparagus: W2k has compatibility modes, you just have to enable them before they appear in file properties like they do in XP.

 
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12th May, 2005 at 08:50:58 -

Okay, I didn't know that. XP still has a noticable speed boost over 2K though.

 
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12th May, 2005 at 09:25:57 -

Well ... Windows Xp is great ... at least compared to Windows 98. In my experience Windows 2000 is a bit more stable than Windows Xp, allthough I have only had a few problems with Windows Xp.

Recently I have had some crashing problems with explorer for no apparent reason, but a registry cleaner seems to have fixed the problem, other than that I have not had other problems really.

I prefer the new startmenu over the old one anytime. Some users complaints about the new start menu in Windows Xp but you can have both the old start menu as well as the old look and feel if you want. I like the new look better though.

Windows Xp starts up much much faster than Windows 2000, other than that the difference is tiny. Windows Xp with the new look will be a bit slower on small machines, but the difference is unnoticeable on new hardware.

All in all, going from Windows 98 to Windows 2000/Xp will be a major improvement, as you will experince a lot less crashes (from many to as good as none).

 
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12th May, 2005 at 13:35:39 -

what i noticed going from 98se to xp is that xp looks nicer and is more stable. Xp still has its problems but at least it runs new programs.
Also ive never had to wipe my hd with xp whereas with 98 i remember doing it tons of times.

 
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12th May, 2005 at 14:28:35 -

I highly perfer Xp over 9x by a long shot. Windows Xp, though looks shinny because of the new shell, is very stable. (I dont care what anyone says, every 9x i've used was extremly unstable & always crashed on me, Xp has never crashed on me as long as I gave it time to load what it was loading) As long as you have atleast 256MB or in my case 512MB of Ram, it should run fine. The main reasion I wanted Xp was because of the new shell interface, (slick luna scheme looks nice) but after I got it, I was shocked on how smooth Xp actually ran for me. Windows 9x cause me absolutly nothing but trouble. I have a feeling that Longhorn wont be much better though. Longhorn just looks like Xp that might be so over done it'll run as crappy as 9x does. Well, i've said my 2 cents, I'm out.

 
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12th May, 2005 at 14:48:44 -

For what it's worth I wish I'd stayed with 98SE. I play a lot of older games and Dos Box/VDMS just don't cut it.

 
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12th May, 2005 at 15:41:50 -

AndyUK I totally agree with you here...
"what i noticed going from 98se to xp is that xp looks nicer and is more stable. Xp still has its problems but at least it runs new programs.
Also ive never had to wipe my hd with xp whereas with 98 i remember doing it tons of times."

I have wiped my harddrive over 10 times because of Win98 crap, but I still like it..haha but ya... Im not too sure. I like the speed up XP sounds like it has, and I need XP for Adobe editing... But I love playing old games Such as Monkey Island and I even have problems with that on Win98...

Hmmm... thanks for all your help guys!

 
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12th May, 2005 at 15:48:36 -

If your a gamer or even use video editing software and the like, although xp uses more ram, demanding applications run a lot faster becuase all the latest hardware drivers are designed for xp.

-And also btw, you can find emulators to play older games, if you like monkey island games then i recommend you try the scumm engine emulator: http://www.scummvm.org/

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12th May, 2005 at 16:18:01 -

Yeah but if you're editing video you should have at least 512mb ram anyway. 1gig is good, and 2gig is a little overboard, but it really helps. I've never had problems running old programs on XP, like the first oregon trail game, good to relive your childhood.

 
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12th May, 2005 at 16:34:14 -

You can always partition your hard drive and have one partition boot using Windows 98. To be honest I don't have a clue how to do that, but the possibility is there. Personally I keep my old Win98 laptop around for my old games.

DosBox does help for a few things under Windows XP, but it does have its problems. Mostly I find that some games are inexplicably chronically slow.

 
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12th May, 2005 at 21:03:58 -

If you can manage not upgrading 98 to XP (might be an idea to get rid of the crap you invariably collect) then you can dual-boot instead, and go back to 98 if you need to.

 
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13th May, 2005 at 03:07:09 -

I have always wanted to dual boot my computer but really don't know how.

I am planning on getting a gig worth of RAm as I have 512 right now and a 200gig HD... I thought 40G was enough but damn video takes up alot!

Any places that you know of how I could learn to dual boot my comp? I love to experiment and I have a couple of 2gig drives just hanging around collecting whatever HD collect.

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13th May, 2005 at 06:40:40 -

If you install on a computer with an operating system already on it, XP will create a startup menu automatically so you can choose between XP and the old Windows at startup. I use this to dual boot Windows and Linux, although you need to install Linux after Windows if you want to do that.

 
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13th May, 2005 at 10:39:26 -

Basically the real issue here is if you use Windows 9x still, unless you still use DOS a lot, upgrade to either 2k or XP. A lot of new software only runs on 2k or XP, plus the NT base is much more stable.
I use 2k, it's not too bad. Well balanced.

 
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13th May, 2005 at 15:15:18 -

My dad downloaded internet explorer 6 once and it's crashed 98 so badly that double clicking any file would cause an error and shut down the pc, He had to reinstall something an we lost our reboot disk so he borrowed xp from someone.

 
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13th May, 2005 at 16:45:39 -

Never Ever use XP Home, If you want real power than get XP Pro, it is better than 98 and xp home,plus it is more stable and is more compatable with devices.

 
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13th May, 2005 at 19:05:14 -

Any devices in particular?

 
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14th May, 2005 at 02:23:50 -

Lets see, it let me use an old visioneer scanner which never worked on the home version.

 
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14th May, 2005 at 03:45:26 -

like the first oregon trail game

oldskool. I remember that.

I have a lot of trouble running my old games in XP, but I've got a PC emulator somewhere... you can just use one of those whenever you have compatability issues

 
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14th May, 2005 at 16:07:53 -

If Macintosh computers could support every kind of game and program with fast pace and stability, i would have already bought a Mac instead of using f****** Windows series. Mac computers never have any errors or viruses.

 
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14th May, 2005 at 16:11:45 -

Bullshit.

By the way, IBM != Windows.

 
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Wow, OS just for that comment I'm knocking a few points off your IQ.
Mac never have viruses or errors? Now that is truly funny.
Macs are more reliable than windows boxes, for sure, but when a Mac goes down, it goes down HARD. Errors happen, just not as much as windows, and there are a few viruses floating around.

Thankfully the macs can try to fix some of those error for you, but that doesn't always work, which leads to the down hard part.

So yes, Mac's are nice and better than windows boxes(In the limited terms of what I'm talking about), but they are not the vision of perfection you have them made out to be.

 
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The Mac architecture is pretty impressive - from what I've seen, they utilise their processors and resources a lot better than the PC architecture does. Also, I've never seen a PC laptop whose batteries last longer than about six months before becoming completely unusable (though this might be down to incredible bad luck).

However, the problem: I dislike the Mac OS interface - it's certainly pretty to look at, but I just find Windows easier to find my way around. Also, Multimedia Fusion doesn't work on Macs, and I'm yet to find a decent music tracker.

One last point, even though it is rather childish: The one button mice. Particularly the mice which are like one gigantic button, so that you have to hover your hand uncomfortably over them to avoid clicking by mistake. This is easily corrected by using a USB scroll wheel mouse (which I'm definitely getting Whitney some day).

That's all, I think. I'm not sure why there is such a huge anti-Windows movement - it's popular because it's easy and it works.

 
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The thing with Mac is that it has less hardware for it so it can afford to utilise it better - Windows still has to support older devices from the 95 days - and the hardware it has needs to go through Apple (not 100% on that). PCs can be built by anyone who knows their ATX from their PCI and battery life varies between makes, as does component quality...

Macs are a lot more intuitive from my very limited experience with them. The one button mice are weird but that's because they're different, and how do you avoid accidentally clicking a two button mouse? (Relying on the inevitable stiffness of the right mouse button is not a valid option.) It's no different in my experience, but I don't like mice anyway - and the pointing pads even less. Bring back trackballs on laptops!

Windows has got easier with XP, but I'm not 100% convinced that it 'works'. It's certainly not as secure as Linux, for example, (unless you're an idiot who ignores the golden rule and logs on as root all the time,) but it has all the software and all the games, and all the media attention. But why do people hate it? Go to www.microsuck.com and read for yourself.



Having said that though, if you have to go Windows, get XP service pack 2, and make sure you've got a fair amount of memory because it easily takes 100MiB of it just for itself. (Even on the Classic skin!)

 
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The thing about linux and mac is that its COMPLETLY BORING!, in the normal community and you tell someone you use linux or mac they will think you are a loser, maybe not with mac because its starting to get there but linux is something people hate.

 
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18th May, 2005 at 17:18:00 -

Yes, because Windows is the most interesting thing since sliced bread, and I see hundreds of people foaming at the mouth when they see a linux user

 
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18th May, 2005 at 18:39:07 -

just the fact that zimtower has associated Invader Zim in his Name makes me agree with him.

you..OBEY THE FIST!

 
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ok. but zim is still cool. OBEY

 
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19th May, 2005 at 15:33:06 -

just what you said makes you a bigger idiot than me. i said i would never agree with zimtower again. then i said "Zim" (the show and all its glory) was still cool. unless im mistaken i never said tower. it seems today that nobody writes (me included) or reads anything correctly anymore. this cant lead to anything good.

 
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19th May, 2005 at 15:43:21 -

Shut up, you're sounding stupider. If you mean Invader Zim, say 'Invader Zim.' If you mean Zimtower, say 'moron.' I don't care which you mean, just stop talking.

 
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20th May, 2005 at 04:11:10 -

Windows XP calls like that because it some times makes you XP... Os-X might makes you =, So does linux... You'll just go =D

But the current version of windows just makes you, Well... XP

 
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20th May, 2005 at 19:48:56 -

what?

 
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20th May, 2005 at 19:53:36 -

Are you drunk, NastyMan? Or are you just generally talking bollocks?

 
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22nd May, 2005 at 10:02:55 -

Surely you know the smiley XP?

 
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ahhhhh. the XP smiley. a work of art really. (not)

 
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23rd May, 2005 at 09:49:14 -

The XP part was the ONLY part I understood

 
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