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27th January, 2005 at 06:57:37 -

who thinks internet-speak is funny? I mean, you can't help but giggle at OMG THAS L33T, go the w00t away n3wb

(i know no-one says "go the woot away", i stuck it in there to be funny)

 
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27th January, 2005 at 11:09:55 -

If it's being used too much, it's not funny anymore.

And I think it's being used WAY too much.

 
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27th January, 2005 at 11:25:03 -

no, it's annoying. People who mock people who use it are just as annoying

 
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27th January, 2005 at 12:14:36 -

it's not funny and never will be. it's not even smart. it's just... eugh.

 
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27th January, 2005 at 12:52:59 -

It always has and always will get on my nerves. Same with text-message speak. Why can't people use proper grammar anymore? No wonder there's so many retards about.

 
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27th January, 2005 at 13:00:23 -

text messaging on phones doesn't help either.
"hi m8 ur glfrnd is sxy she is 2 tmng wth me sry"

anyway i think mocking it is funny, thats why i made the 'noobiest question' topic.

i think that 733T + stupidity = funny

 
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27th January, 2005 at 13:26:36 -

I always type coherently, which is presumably only a good thing. I even write coherently in text messages, with grammar and everything. It's sad to know that's exceptional.

 
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27th January, 2005 at 14:26:59 -

I pity the fool who set a 160 character limit per text message. (Unless you want to go into 2 messages of course)

 
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27th January, 2005 at 14:36:53 -

People who use internet speak are just asking to be laughed at.


 
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27th January, 2005 at 15:02:18 -

Phonespeak annoys me far more than leetspeak, as the second is mostly used insincerely.

 
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27th January, 2005 at 16:31:12 -

Tigx0r: ditto. The more contracted the text message I get, the more elaborately verbose I get just to make a point.
I hate it so very much. My sister is one of those people who uses it online: it's just an excuse to spell poorly. She spells 'time' with a 'y.' That's not a contraction, it's bloody stupid.

1337's fine in small doses, since it's generally used jokingly. In fact I don't think I've seen anyone use it seriously for years.

 
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27th January, 2005 at 17:53:42 -

Text speak doesn't bother me when I'm using my mobile phone, since it's difficult to type coherently when you have to press 7 four times just to get an S. But when people use it on forums and MSN it just pisses me off. You've got a whole fucking keyboard to type, yet you write "coz" instead of because and "u" instead of you! It's mostly chavs and "rude" boys who type like that. The fuckers.

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27th January, 2005 at 21:40:48 -

Broomie: Doesn't your phone have that context speed-type dealie? Where you hit a number and it automatically determines which letter you mean? It's incredibly useful for not coming off like a dyslexic nine-year-old in todays high-speed world.

 
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27th January, 2005 at 23:03:25 -

Radix - That feature is so useful, you can pummel out an SMS faster than using phonespeak.

 
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28th January, 2005 at 01:15:26 -

I try not to loose sleep over it.
I occasionally say "lol", I dont like it though. It just HAPPENS!

 

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28th January, 2005 at 01:15:32 -

1337 was fine where it was, in games. As soon as it came out onto instantmessages its been abused to no end.

The only internet speak I can't stand is AOLspeak. "omg I <3 u thx kk?". Its just so damn lame.

Pickleman> Ha, That's AOLspeak! 1337 6035 |_||<3 +|-||5 (leet goes like this). There is another version called Ultra leet but that's hard to do without a converter.

 
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28th January, 2005 at 01:47:19 -

wow arent you fucking dandy, why the hell would you even begin to consider that correcting pickleman about his aol shit, or leet fuck, or whatever would be even remotely cool?

 
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28th January, 2005 at 03:31:52 -

What's w00t?

 
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28th January, 2005 at 08:44:31 -

How many people find themselves wanting to say 'LOL' in real life though?

I nearly did the other day. That was scary.

Back on topic tho, all my emails, text messages and other stuff are usually proper English. I sometimes abbreviate if I really need to, like if I'm typing with only one hand in a rush.

People who cannot spell and don't have a good excuse like dyslexia are evil. Everyone makes mistakes now and then, or has a few words they don't know - but some people are just completely rubbish.

Like one guy I know, he spells 'exactly' as 'assactly' or 'azactly'. He's not dyslexic, he's just completely ignorant. I used to laugh, until I realised he wasn't kidding. Now I just get a quiet chill.

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28th January, 2005 at 08:45:18 -

Except the occasional 'Tho'

 
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28th January, 2005 at 11:53:40 -

Radix: Do you mean the dictionary option when making text messages? I rarely use it as most of the time I want to write something I get weird words like razzle when I really want to say something different.

Text speak I can deal with when it's on mobile phones, I rarely use it though, I used to do it on my first phone (a brick more like) because it had a character limit. And I also considered myself abit of a chav back then. (Thank God I came to terms a few months later) It could only process 100 characters, so I pretty much had no choice to type "lke dis" when dealing with long messages. My current phone can stand 1000 characters, meaning that I hardly ever use text speak anymore.

w00t I belive is basically like saying Woo! Correct me if you want, since I'm just guessing that. It's all a bunch of shitty nonsense anyway. Nerds thinking they are funny, sickens me.

Dines, I also said Laugh Out Loud once by accident, I felt like a fucking loser.

 
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28th January, 2005 at 13:41:44 -

Well although I know what it means, I always imagine LOL as sounding like 'Lol'. So if I said it out loud I'd actually say 'lol' and it maketh no sense.

 
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28th January, 2005 at 14:16:58 -

I tend to type kinda like how I speak, but unless I'm talking to mates on MSN or something I try to cut down on the Yorkshire dialect.
If I typed something like "Allreyt everyone, I've got summat to tell thee all," people would be like "what the fuck's that guy on about?!?"

 
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28th January, 2005 at 14:59:46 -

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28th January, 2005 at 15:49:23 -

i'd say lol as "ell oh ell" if the situation arose.

 
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28th January, 2005 at 20:12:09 -

I say it "lol" when im aroused.

 
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28th January, 2005 at 21:13:25 -

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wow arent you fucking dandy, why the hell would you even begin to consider that correcting pickleman about his aol shit, or leet fuck, or whatever would be even remotely cool?

How about this, STFU fuckface.

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Wow, you're an idiot. 1337 started by people using it in chat and forums, so that they couldn't be understood by people who didn't know it (ie. moderators).

Leet started in many places.

 
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28th January, 2005 at 21:26:06 -

Some things:

1. Pickleman didn't even say anything in this thread
2. You can't Quote on this forum
3. LEET is a fucking rediculous form of speech no matter where it started

Hope that clears it up.

 
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28th January, 2005 at 21:48:52 -

Pickleman started the thread. I was just clearing something up but some n00bs like Chicken obviously have some a problem with it.

I know you cant quote so I just posted their message before mine.

Lastly, Agreed.

 
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28th January, 2005 at 22:28:45 -

Okay dude, no worries.

 
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29th January, 2005 at 00:13:57 -

1337 isn't cool.
Mocking 1337 isn't funny.
I can attest to 1337 being on the usenets to get around filtering.

 
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UltimateOmega: You have no idea what you're talking about. Give it up before you get any further behind. 1337 originally started as a method of disguising files on IRC, using names like fux0r or pr0n to prevent wordmatches. It was adopted and expended into normal speech when the whole Scene thing was happening, as a method of showing just how 1337 you are, but very, very quickly obtained the joking status it has today. Kind of like how you say boxen or virii as pseudo-plurals. The only, and I repeat ONLY article of 1337 to ever come from a game was 'pwn,' which comes from a Warcraft tpyo.

Broomie: w00t comes from MUDs. It's short for 'Wonderous Loot.' So you say w00t when you've just done somthing neat, or gotten into somewhere you're not supposed to.

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29th January, 2005 at 10:14:40 -

I just want to know when will it end?

otherwise the new generation won't be able to spell anything right.

 
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30th January, 2005 at 00:57:42 -

I like the irony of "warcraft tpyo".

But yes, Radix is correct. I'd research something before stating it as fact, especially if Radix is in the argument. He's a self-proclaimed genius. Or at least, very efficient with Google.

Blizzard fixed the "pwn" typo VERY soon after it was discovered, but it was too late. It leaked out and took over like no man's candy.

Finally, I won't say anything about people that use leet speak, but leet speak itself is a fucking stupid thing to incorporate into mainstream chat. I can understand the practical uses of it to avoid keyword searching and detection, but that's where it should have stayed.


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30th January, 2005 at 17:54:28 -

I have heard people say 'lol' (like 'lull') and I just think 'wtf dnt u kno how 2 larf?? rofl'. Except with a bit more coherency.

 
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30th January, 2005 at 18:32:14 -

My senior high school was selective, which meant there weren't as many assholes as most schools. There were a couple of pricks, but they were too frightened of the korean gangsta kids (who, as far as I can tell, are led by whoever is the shortest) to pick on the geeks, and since you aren't korean if you don't play video games, everyone left us alone. So basically, the coolest kids were the geek group; hardcore gamers and coders and otaku.
Kind of like how the 'cool' kids generally try to show off how ignorant they are by practising ebonics, a bunch of us spoke occasionally in 1337. Not too much lol'ing, but w00ts and -x0r's were pretty common. Nobody knew what the fuck we were talking about, apart from our computer science teacher, Rix0r.

 
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IF YOU WANT TO GET TECHNICAL ABOUT ORIGINS: leet speak didnt originate on IRC, It originated to avoid filters on swear words things like IRC forums etc if you check nowadays dont have any filters as swear words are more tollerated by the general public and thus the need for "shit head speak" is no longer required and from my own recollection the most used area of leet speak etc was on Tribes 1 as that had an extensive word filter built into it... as Tribes has always been a very tallent based game...

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31st January, 2005 at 10:00:33 -

"My senior high school was selective"

so only the smartest korean gangsters could join?

 
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31st January, 2005 at 10:39:12 -

I agree, people who use "Teh", especially in their username, thinking it's funny, are usually incouragable morons.

 
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what is this internet that you guys keep talking about?

 
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It's a means for children and adults alike to share pornography and music, and slag each other off without getting beat up.

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you would be a prime example of "slagging people off without being beaten up" Trevor...

 
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ehhh... ok sure

 
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Who the hell would abide by the laws of some guy that likes to show his arse to a bunch of other men who them promptely close the window

 
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I occasionally use lol, force of habit. But people rarely actually laugh out loud when they say lol, so it is really pretty stupid. Not to mention ROFL. I'm pretty damn sure that it is impossible to type whilst rolling on the floor.

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I use LOL pretty often, but often it's when I'm kinda chuckling, not actually laughing. Though too many months using binary has gotten me to contract lol as 5 (you binary users would understand). I use ROFL about once a year or so.

I believe that this 'internet speak' is a sign of the future of our language. I think it's stupid that people bother so much with vocabulary and grammar. Words are just words, language is a method of communication. If you can get your point across using as little bandwidth as possible, perhaps it's a good thing .

I believe Olde English, Arabic, and a few other languages used to take out vowels and spaces and a lot of other stuff that they added in recently just to make things look nicer. I don't think it's really that unhistorical to get rid of them again. Heck, most Arabs don't actually use vowels, it's the noobs who do.

Anyways, I thought I was the only one who didn't use contractions in text messages .

 
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2nd February, 2005 at 11:49:47 -

Muz, I very much doubt people in a couple of centuries time will walk down the street and shout "w00t! i r teh r0x0rzzz!!11 without getting in fear of being beaten up."

English language has evolved, you don't see "thou" or "thy" very much these days, however I doubt the English language would get that horrible.

Then again you could be right, I remember watching an episode of Futurama where they go on the internet, well, in the internet to be precise. It's a cyber world and chatrooms are actually alot of people inside a room, and geeks shouting "WHERE ARE ALL DEE FEMALES AT?!"

If that was true I'd wonder how porn sites will work... I wonder.

 
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2nd February, 2005 at 17:43:18 -

Nah, 1337 stuff is just a fad. There were similar ones earlier whihc we haven't retained. I mean nobody says 'groovy' except in a joking manner. If it's retained, as it might be online, it'll probably just have the same sort of status as olde english; just a throwback to something that didn't actually exist in the first place.

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No offense guys but not only does no one care WHERE haxx0r talk came from, but arguing over it does not impress anyone. Wait about ten years and become an internet historian. *Then* it'll be impressive.

Haxx0r talk has definitely been done to death but it still makes me giggle. Probably because when I see it have a mental image of some little punk with a backwards baseball cap and a mouthful of gum on the other end.

The ultra-shorted talk like "omg lol u want 2 go out w/ me?" Is just disturbing to me because it gives me the mental image of a hick in an A-neck shirt and a John Deer cap with chewing tobacco pretending he's a nineteen year old girl from Virginia Beach.

 
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2nd February, 2005 at 17:56:41 -

I don't use internet speak in text messages because my phone has a built in qwerty keyboard. And AOL is only contributing to acronyms like "lol" and "rofl", if you look on their site, they have a dictionary of those terms on it.

 
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3rd February, 2005 at 16:28:46 -

They just added the dictionary actually, I used to use AOL & the only reasion they did that is for all the poor souls who still use AOL.

 
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