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A trailer for my upcoming game Zone Runner 3. Please could you give me your opinions on the background activity? That would be greatly appreciated



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Make the backgrounds on scrolling levels parallax! For a second it looked like the stage was moving left/right and the player was standing still :X

 
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7th June, 2009 at 00:05:01 -

Honestly I find the background very annoying. In a game of such precise control as Zone Runner, the last thing you need is death by visual distraction.

Always thought the Zone Runners were the best games by you, so I'm very much looking forward to this.

 
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Hmm, thats a good point I guess. I'll look into the idea of toggling the animated backdrops on and off in the menu, how does that sound?

 
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7th June, 2009 at 12:35:34 -

Sounds great, can't go wrong with a toggle option. Also I think you should include an option for the traditional pattern backgrounds like the previous two. How is the difficulty measuring up to the other games? Will there be an easy/hard mode?

 
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7th June, 2009 at 12:55:44 -

If I'm being honest I'm much more looking forward to MSD2, and I know it's only a teaser but what is that showing that the older Zone Runners didn't do?
So I say bring us MSD2. On a silver platter.

 
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7th June, 2009 at 13:14:00 -

The game looks awesome but I completely agree with Tom. The backgrounds would make the game very difficult to play to the point of extreme frustration. Other than that, I'm looking forward to this!

 
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Me too. And MSD2, hopefully.

 
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7th June, 2009 at 17:03:24 -

I don't see anything new here. Are you going to add some new game play mechanics?

 
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7th June, 2009 at 17:31:07 -

1. I've decided to get rid of the animated backgrounds altogether in order to keep with the simplistic style.

2. I guess the new things are merely cosmetic - a new engine, some parallaxing. The player can now duck, which allows me to make some more interesting challenges of dexterity. But the basic gameplay is the same - collect all the coins to progress. If I add too much it will change the gameplay dramatically and I don't want that.

3. Some levels will be timed.

4. Others will have special events.

5. The final level of each zone will be a survial onslaught challenge. Since the Zone Runner cannot kill anyone, he will instead have a set time to survive, and the level will fill up with obstacles and enemies. These will be moreorless the "boss" stages.

6. You will still be able to unlock things.

7. I'm also looking into the idea of a unlocked Time Attack Mode - which will ensure that all levels have a countdown, which starts from, say 500. When you finish the level, whatever time is left is added to your score. In Time Attack Mode you will NOT be able to save your progress, but either when you lose all your lives or you beat the game in this mode, your score will be uploaded to the Acoders website.

8. I've also spent a lot of time on MSD2 today

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7th June, 2009 at 17:31:57 -

I loved the trailer actually! Backgrounds seem to be fine, nice upbeat graphics, oh and the music had me dancin in my chair

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Originally Posted by Chris Street
1. I've decided to get rid of the animated backgrounds altogether in order to keep with the simplistic style.

2. I guess the new things are merely cosmetic - a new engine, some parallaxing. The player can now duck, which allows me to make some more interesting challenges of dexterity. But the basic gameplay is the same - collect all the coins to progress. If I add too much it will change the gameplay dramatically and I don't want that.

3. Some levels will be timed.

4. Others will have special events.

5. The final level of each zone will be a survial onslaught challenge. Since the Zone Runner cannot kill anyone, he will instead have a set time to survive, and the level will fill up with obstacles and enemies. These will be moreorless the "boss" stages.

6. You will still be able to unlock things.

7. I'm also looking into the idea of a unlocked Time Attack Mode - which will ensure that all levels have a countdown, which starts from, say 500. When you finish the level, whatever time is left is added to your score. In Time Attack Mode you will NOT be able to save your progress, but either when you lose all your lives or you beat the game in this mode, your score will be uploaded to the Acoders website.

8. I've also spent a lot of time on MSD2 today



Sounds fine to me. Even something as simple as a crouch move can add a lot if you get creative with the level design.

 
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7th June, 2009 at 18:49:56 -

Okay, good call on dropping the animated backgrounds. And don't be afraid to add more and more to the engine, a few more solid moves = more potential for interesting challenges/level design. I don't think you can ever run the risk of over complicating a standard platform game anyway.

 
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8th June, 2009 at 05:15:01 -

Not sure why you should be able to see the coins from the previous level, if you've collected them all.

The background is a bit distracting, maybe make it more faded out, or add an option for how faded it is?

 
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8th June, 2009 at 05:34:25 -

if the background was more faded out it would be less distracting.
Looks fun.

 
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8th June, 2009 at 10:23:12 -

I can't really say I like it unfortuanetly. It doesn't look that much different from its previous versions apart from a few different traps

I would have liked it if there were more bling blings and eye candy in the gfx

 
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8th June, 2009 at 15:51:09 -

If I change the format and design too much it won't be a Zone Runner game, it'll turn into something different and thats something I have an issue with. Yes, the game is moreorless "more of the same".

Then again, so were the Locked games! And In The Pit!

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8th June, 2009 at 17:04:28 -

If you add new features it will still be a Zone Runner game I think, just a much better Zone Runner game. I understand where you're coming from with "more of the same", but ideally a sequel is supposed to be an evolution of the formula. Besides it would still feel familiar, just with extra cool stuff which makes the game better. Don't hold back just because you don't want to break the simplicity.

I guess in the end it will come down to how well the levels are designed.

 
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You should make it a platform and release a level editor, much like N+ or Knytt Stories. I think that would be great for this kind of game.

 
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8th June, 2009 at 18:02:54 -

Looks fun. Only complaint is the backgrounds, which you removed.

 

  		
  		

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8th June, 2009 at 18:17:11 -

You could add some extra depth into the game with something like branching paths or bonuses for passing consecutive levels really fast or without dying.

If I was to make a game like this I would probably look to Bubble Bobble for inspiration.

 
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8th June, 2009 at 18:33:29 -

At first I thought you went through a portal to the moving backgrounds as the next level.

 

  		
  		
   

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