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 AndyUK Mascot Maniac
Registered 8/1/2002
Points 14165
  
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26th March, 2007 at 9:36:07 PM -
Ive never had a major problem because I usually give each new save a different filename. I end up with 100's of near identical files but at least ive got enough copies to go back to if if there is ever a problem.
One problem I had was moving frames, When i made Buzz the squirrel 2 (with TGF) i encountered a problem where I couldn't move frames without the whole thing crashing so i has to have my levels in a strange order. That was fine because i usually use 'Jump to frame' rather than 'goto next frame'.
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 Silveraura God's God
Registered 8/8/2002
Points 6744
         
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26th March, 2007 at 10:06:46 PM -
I have absolutely no clue how people manage to screw MMF2 up so badly... I've designed many things with 800+ events, and as long as you know what the hell your doing, you shouldn't have any crashes. Even game performance will stay at a maximum if you have common sense and work cleanly.
For example... don't let events constantly loop if they aren't needed.
Don't do this.
Every 0.5
If Object Exists
--- Do something to it.
Do this instead.
If Object Exists
Every 0.5
--- Do Something to it.
Simple stuff like that will make the program have to make much smaller loops, and improve performance.
http://www.facebook.com/truediamondgame
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 Fifth Quadruped
Registered 5/7/2003
Points 5494
  
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26th March, 2007 at 11:34:41 PM -
Well, the bugs and corruptions have to be caused by SOMEthing, right? I mean, I've learned a few things to beware in MMF 1.5...
Like, if you delete any qualifiers from an object, do it one at a time, checking each time that the qualifier's truly gone.
Or, if you're dealing with an extension object that stores its own graphics (like the Text Blitter or Alpha Channel), don't ever delete or create any of them during runtime, and always keep at least one instance on the level.
But still... seeing that bad object appear is always so horrifying. I always go into super-quarantine mode whenever I see one.
Go Moon!
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 Johnny Look One Happy Dude
Registered 5/14/2006
Points 2946
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27th March, 2007 at 4:20:08 AM -
Unfortunatly I was only kidding about sueing clickteam.
I think the problem wasn't caused by the events, there was only about 300.
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![]() axel Crazy?
Registered 2/5/2005
Points 4770

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27th March, 2007 at 5:53:24 AM -
My MMF2 hasn't crashed even once since I got it, and I can't remember the last time it happened with MMF 1.5, because it was so long ago, and it's only happened a couple of times.
But yeah, it's been said many times before: Keep backups and save your work often.
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 DaVince This fool just HAD to have a custom rating
Registered 9/4/2004
Points 8001
   
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27th March, 2007 at 6:08:01 AM -
"no he was kidding about sueing clickteam"
You take the fun out of everything.
http://davince.tengudev.com/
Still a member of Ectoprods! If it still exists, that is.
Don't take me for a FOOL!
"you purple nurple " - Del Duio
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 Assault Andy Administrator
I make other people create vaporware
Registered 7/29/2002
Points 5683
    
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27th March, 2007 at 8:25:52 AM -
Well you've learnt the hardway, like countless others, to back up your work! As harsh as this sounds, I find myself repeating it whenever someone loses important data. It's a real frustrating problem, but I hope you'll backup in future. I back up my work to USB and I also save multiple versions of each file as I go along. Simply go to File>Save As, as opposed to just saving. This way if one corrupts you'll have another version of it from not too long ago. It also helps if you make a major change and then decide you don't like it.
However it would be good if you could send that corrupted file to Francois on clickteam.com he's often looking for bad object examples to study so that he can try to fix the problem. Good luck with your next project.
Creator of Faerie Solitaire:
http://www.create-games.com/download.asp?id=7792
Also creator of ZDay20 and Dungeon Dash.
http://www.Jigxor.com
http://twitter.com/JigxorAndy
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![]() Ski TDC is my stress ball
Registered 3/13/2005
Points 10144
         
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27th March, 2007 at 8:47:49 AM -
Is hardway all one word?
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 Johnny Look One Happy Dude
Registered 5/14/2006
Points 2946
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27th March, 2007 at 8:55:56 AM -
How can I reach François ?
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![]() axel Crazy?
Registered 2/5/2005
Points 4770

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27th March, 2007 at 8:59:23 AM -
Clickteam.com, duh. Look on the forums. Or try the Gwerdy chat thing or something.
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 Johnny Look One Happy Dude
Registered 5/14/2006
Points 2946
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27th March, 2007 at 9:03:36 AM -
I already tried in clickteam.com, I was looking for a email adress.
But yeah I'm going to look on the forums.
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 Del Duio Born in a Bowling Alley
Registered 7/29/2005
Points 867
      
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27th March, 2007 at 12:04:17 PM -
BACK UP your work!
Truer words were never spoken. I have been backing up Hasslevania with two files, and at the end of the day another file. So right now I have about 20-30 backup files that have the date in the filename (ex. BACKUP-HV-032707).
MMF1.5 crashes on me on occasion, but as long as you have the backups, you're golden.
--
"Del Duio has received 0 trophies. Click here to see them all."
"To be a true ninja you must first pick the most stealthy of our assorted combat suits. Might I suggest the bright neon orange?"
DXF Games, coming next: Hasslevania 2- This Space for Rent!
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 JFrudy
Registered 11/30/2006
Points 103
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27th March, 2007 at 12:49:44 PM -
i've had the 'bad object' thing happen to me too. im not sure what causes it, but i thinks its when you delete something in some odd instance. idk. its a bitch
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 Hayo Stone Goose
Registered 8/15/2002
Points 6440
   
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27th March, 2007 at 12:53:25 PM -
Oh crap, that sucks, the same thing happened to me when I worked on a new game for two days and it started to be pretty cool. I first killed all the people that told me to make backups (NOBODY makes backups of everything every day), then I just restarted the project and it actually turned out better than the first one, just like WillWill said. So in the end I was happy MMF2 fucked me.
www.hayovanreek.nl
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 Del Duio Born in a Bowling Alley
Registered 7/29/2005
Points 867
      
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27th March, 2007 at 2:21:54 PM -
Hayo said: "NObody makes backups of everything every day"
I do now, I've learned my lesson!
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"Del Duio has received 0 trophies. Click here to see them all."
"To be a true ninja you must first pick the most stealthy of our assorted combat suits. Might I suggest the bright neon orange?"
DXF Games, coming next: Hasslevania 2- This Space for Rent!
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