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Chris Burrows



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20th November, 2011 at 09:38:43 -


When you turn my PS3 on, it tries to turn on. The light is green for a 1 second, the goes blue, then goes yellow, and then flashes red forever. And beeps too.

Apparently, this is called the Yellow Light of Death.

I've been reading a bit about it. Some people seem to think you can fix it by opening it up and cleaning out all the dust and shit from inside. Another guy says hair dryer it for 15 minutes, then put it in front of a fan. Another guy said he did that, but melted the plastic right off. Too close it seems.

Has anybody here managed to fix their PS3 after falling victim to the YLOD?

 
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20th November, 2011 at 18:10:35 -

I remember hearing about this a bit ago. I heard one major cause of it is due to an improperly installed update.

My best suggestion, before you do anything that might void your warranty (or any chance of Sony helping you, assuming your warranty is out). Call Sony and see if they have any advice. Who knows, they might be cool about it. I know Microsoft was when my Xbox 360 broke and it was long since out of warranty. And since PS3's are less notorious for breaking, they might be a little more sympathetic when one of their machines actually does break.

 
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21st November, 2011 at 03:22:00 -

This is a hardware failure due to bad/cold solder joints somewhere on the mobo. (Typically under the GPU or nearby.)

You can fix it with home remedies, but it probably won't stay fixed. The only way to fix it "properly" is to completely reflow the GPU using a rework station.

This problem is a direct result of lack of adequate cooling and the lack of lead in the solder used inside of the system. I don't know all of the details, but the solder used in many electronics in the US lacks lead as it is supposedly regulated in CA (or some other states) which results in large-scale production of said electronics using less heat-resistant, lead-less solder.

Using special solder when re-flowing the chips supposedly works wonders.

If you're under warranty send it in. . . . just be aware that you will receive a new PS3 with a blank HD. If you're not under warranty and don't wish to buy a new one, get it done professionally and make SURE the company you use is reputable, uses real rework stations, and replaces the old solder with new solder. . . preferably solder that contains lead.

I really suggest selling your old as Unopened with warranty seal NOT broken and buying a new console.



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21st November, 2011 at 11:59:16 -


Originally Posted by GamesterXIII
This is a hardware failure due to bad/cold solder joints somewhere on the mobo. (Typically under the GPU or nearby.)

You can fix it with home remedies, but it probably won't stay fixed. The only way to fix it "properly" is to completely reflow the GPU using a rework station.

This problem is a direct result of lack of adequate cooling and the lack of lead in the solder used inside of the system. I don't know all of the details, but the solder used in many electronics in the US lacks lead as it is supposedly regulated in CA (or some other states) which results in large-scale production of said electronics using less heat-resistant, lead-less solder.

Using special solder when re-flowing the chips supposedly works wonders.

If you're under warranty send it in. . . . just be aware that you will receive a new PS3 with a blank HD. If you're not under warranty and don't wish to buy a new one, get it done professionally and make SURE the company you use is reputable, uses real rework stations, and replaces the old solder with new solder. . . preferably solder that contains lead.

I really suggest selling your old as Unopened with warranty seal NOT broken and buying a new console.




@ Chris : Not sure in Australia but in the UK we have the Sale Of Good Act (SOGA). We have a 1 year guarantee by law on all products, but the 1 year is not the end of consumer protection - if the product is not deemed "fit for purpose" or of a "satisfactory quality" the consumer can demand a refund (or replacement) up to a period of 6 years (dependant upon the type of device and price range). At no point do you have to accept repairs (although you can do so if you wish), and the responsibility is on the seller NOT the manufacturer. So many shops in the UK try to fob people off to the manufacturer.

Maybe worth checking out if similar laws exist in Australia .

@ Gamester :

Failure rates of electronics shot up considerably on the adoption of lead free (tin copper alloy rather than the typical 60/40 lead/tin alloy).

It's all part of a half arsed environmental policy - one thing that really irks me is the push to CFL (Compact Fluorescent Lamps over Incandescent Lamps - the overhead of waste handling (mercury, phosphors and the support electronics) completely and utter negates what benefit they have in terms of their lower power consumption - not to mention they emit lots of RF and UV...

Completely retarded thinking IMO.


 
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21st November, 2011 at 15:36:22 -


Originally Posted by ..::hagar::..
It's all part of a half arsed environmental policy - one thing that really irks me is the push to CFL (Compact Fluorescent Lamps over Incandescent Lamps - the overhead of waste handling (mercury, phosphors and the support electronics) completely and utter negates what benefit they have in terms of their lower power consumption - not to mention they emit lots of RF and UV...

Completely retarded thinking IMO.



Better move to more efficient and environment-friendly energy production. The scary N word. (before anyone mentions chernobyl and fukushima, chernobyl was the result of the lack of a containment building, an unstable reactor design and disabling what security system existed. Fukushima the result of building in an earthquake AND tsunami-prone area)

 
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21st November, 2011 at 19:26:38 -


Originally Posted by ..::hagar::..

It's all part of a half arsed environmental policy - one thing that really irks me is the push to CFL (Compact Fluorescent Lamps over Incandescent Lamps - the overhead of waste handling (mercury, phosphors and the support electronics) completely and utter negates what benefit they have in terms of their lower power consumption - not to mention they emit lots of RF and UV...

Completely retarded thinking IMO.



Money wise, sure... but I guess we some people couldn't give half a rats ass about the environment. "I just want my electronics to work perfectly and for the cheapest price possible. No exceptions." No offense, but it's pretty self-centered really.

If it weren't for idiots being, well.. idiots, and not disposing their electrics incorrectly - there probably wouldn't even be as big of a problem, because the concern of "what if" they don't, wouldn't need to be such a huge consideration. But no, people still say "OH, cellphones broken. *pitches into trash can*"

 
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21st November, 2011 at 23:24:01 -

Brandon, can I have some of what you're smoking? Although I believe the push to lead free is a good thing, it does have its inherent disadvantages - which is reliability (more prone to produce "dry joints") and for small scale production it is also more dangerous from an operators perspective due to the increased of amount flux, and hence more flux fumes whilst soldering. You need full fume extraction facilities really whilst soldering lead free and I have yet to find a place which meets what regs recommend fully.

Also I find it a bit odd - considering everything else that is present in a typical piece of electronics all products need to be safely disposed of anyway.

On the CFL front how many times have you and your family correctly disposed of household electronics according to the WEEE directive and your local states enforcement of it? Put it another way, do all your friends and family follow the WEEE directive by the book? If you say yes, you're talking out of your arse

I would rather waste a bit of energy than have the landfills and hence water tables filling up with Mercury, Phosphors and all the other nasties associated with control electronics (possibly Beryllium in power transistors/triacs etc) which CFLs have.

I will kind of agree on one thing, better education is needed. So many people believe complete and utter drivel these days. There seems to be some kind of belief that if you are dogmatic and forceful enough, somehow this makes your opinion correct without the actual ability to think or question what they know.



@ Phred : Totally agree.

@ All : will start an energy etc thread when I get time to save derailing this thread anymore.


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21st November, 2011 at 23:50:19 -


Originally Posted by ..::hagar::..
Brandon, can I have some of what you're smoking? Although I believe the push to lead free is a good thing, it does have its inherent disadvantages - which is reliability (more prone to produce "dry joints") and for small scale production it is also more dangerous from an operators perspective due to the increased of amount flux, and hence more flux fumes whilst soldering. You need full fume extraction facilities really whilst soldering lead free and I have yet to find a place which meets what regs recommend fully.



Yes, but those are CHINESE workers, we don't care about those


Originally Posted by ..::hagar::..

I would rather waste a bit of energy than have the landfills and hence water tables filling up with Mercury, Phosphors and all the other nasties associated with control electronics (possibly Beryllium in power transistors/triacs etc) which CFLs have.



Wouldn't be surprised to see some sort of deposit fee-program similar to that for soda cans and bottles.

 
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