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26th August, 2008 at 20:00:57 -

Is there a way mods can delete ratings for games that are unfair. The following two links are to downloads that have gotten star ratings that are obviously not serious or done for some stupid reason. These ratings end up bringing down the averages of games which isn't fair to the creators.

Noitu love 2, I would bet the game would go up a spot or two if the 0 star rating is removed
http://create-games.com/download.asp?id=7104

Blind ninja, someone was just screwing around, not fair.
http://create-games.com/download.asp?id=7325

 
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26th August, 2008 at 20:24:29 -

The admins would have a lot of job trying to delete all the 'unfair' ratings. It's also sometimes quite hard to tell if the bad rating is because of the player really doesn't like it and has some reasons for it, or if the bad rating is because of the user jerking out.

 
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26th August, 2008 at 20:28:14 -

Oh, and by looking to the links you posted, I'd have to add this:
I agree in the thing about guys like Napalm who just want to show how retarded they are, their posts could be quite much deleted.

 
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26th August, 2008 at 21:08:19 -

Napalm, they guy who "introduced himself" blah blah is clearly a fake account, judging by how he's rated Blind Ninja. Either that or he's just a retard.

 
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26th August, 2008 at 21:19:37 -

Doesn't anyone find it strange that some guy called "Moler", a guy Ive never heard of post's this thread:

http://www.create-games.com/forum_post.asp?id=228701

Then a day or two later someone like Napalm appears?

 
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26th August, 2008 at 22:43:11 -

He's probably just a n00b who thinks it's okay to joke like that.

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26th August, 2008 at 23:24:11 -

I'm not saying every review that goes against the majority should be removed. If it is actually hard to tell if it's an unfair review then it should stay. But in the cases I provided it's clear that the ratings should not count towards the average. Very rarely does a game really deserve 0 stars.

 
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27th August, 2008 at 02:03:54 -

I like Game builder's rating system better, because it tells you what each rating means.

 
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28th August, 2008 at 07:57:50 -

I dunno. I like the new rating system BECAUSE it lets you see that some people are voting 0 for no reason. IMHO the article rating system is annoying, because people are rating down articles without showing their faces. At least with the downloads, it's obvious who's rating down a download.

I think a 0 vote is almost always a vote to pull the rating down. It's a bit unbalancing to delete some of those ratings, because most great games which I would rate 5 stars don't actually deserve a 'perfect score'. Thus, the best games are judged by their 0 star to 5 star ratio.

In fact, I'm personally wondering if all games should have a 0 star vote by default, to thin out the fact that a few good games are getting higher scores than the best games. That's the main reason the crazy thumbs up system was introduced in the first place.

 
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28th August, 2008 at 13:23:39 -


Originally Posted by -Adam-
Doesn't anyone find it strange that some guy called "Moler", a guy Ive never heard of post's this thread:


No. You forgot who Moler was ~2 years ago?

 
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29th August, 2008 at 19:50:22 -

But that's what stars 1 through 4 are for. A 0 pulls the score down too much to be fair.

 
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29th August, 2008 at 21:31:43 -

5 stars is terribly inaccurate anyway. 5 stars can range anywhere between 81% to 100%

 
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29th August, 2008 at 21:48:18 -


Originally Posted by JustinC
But that's what stars 1 through 4 are for. A 0 pulls the score down too much to be fair.


One of the admins flamed me for saying that once

 
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30th August, 2008 at 01:59:23 -

What if you kept it possible to vote 0 stars, but it doesn't effect the score. Instead, it just shows who the assholes are, that are trying to do it.

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30th August, 2008 at 02:48:30 -

Andyuk's got a good point. Maybe we should be able to vote half stars. I think having 10 whole stars would be too much but being able to still vote for _/10 would be good.

Anyway, I don't really think the system is bad how it is. If we had a more massive amount of people voting like on major sites where polls or products get thousands of reviews it wouldn't be as big of an issue since even if people vote unfairly their opinion gets diluted by the hundreds of fair votes. But when you're talking under 100 votes for a game an unfair 0 can really have an impact on the average score.

 
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