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lembi2001
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15th July, 2014 at 15/07/2014 13:31:36 -
Originally Posted by Maltar Draco
Sex is a part of life, purely and simply.
Rape is not sex. It is one of the most heinous crimes that can be committed towards a man or a woman. It not only leaves a physical scar but a mental one also.
I agree we are not the target audience but we have a right to voice our concerns.
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Maltar Draco
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15th July, 2014 at 15/07/2014 19:06:53 -
Originally Posted by lembi2001
Rape is not sex.
Originally Posted by dictionary.reference.com
rape
noun
1. the unlawful compelling of a person through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse.
2. any act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person.
3. statutory rape.
4. an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse; despoliation; violation: the rape of the countryside.
5. Archaic. the act of seizing and carrying off by force.
verb (used with object), raped, raping.
6. to force to have sexual intercourse.
7. to plunder (a place); despoil.
8. to seize, take, or carry off by force.
verb (used without object), raped, raping.
9. to commit rape.
So yes, rape is sex. It's not a very socially responsible way to have sex, but is sex.
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s-m-r
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16th July, 2014 at 16/07/2014 00:15:01 -
Originally Posted by Maltar Draco
So yes, rape is sex. It's not a very socially responsible way to have sex, but is sex.
Now you're just being obtuse.
...If only what we posted on the Internet stayed with us for the rest of our lives...
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lembi2001
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16th July, 2014 at 16/07/2014 08:25:37 -
Originally Posted by Maltar DracoSo yes, rape is sex. It's not a very socially responsible way to have sex, but is sex.
Socially Responsible??? Socially Responsible??? Are you honestly telling me that if, god forbid, you were raped you wouldn't feel violated? You would just think, "Oh, that wasn't very socially responsible of that person to do that to me." Would you hell. You would feel violated beyond anything you could possibly comprehend.
It's this sort of thinking that means rape still occurs today. It is abhorrent and CANNOT be excused on any level. To respond with "rape is sex, just not socially responsible" is disgusting. You are almost condoning the act itself with this statement.
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Maltar Draco
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16th July, 2014 at 16/07/2014 13:04:15 -
I am truly laughing, right now at just how mentally retarded you are. Of course I believe rape should be punished by law. Not that you care anyway, you just spew whatever bullshit suits your political agenda. You even go so far as to accuse me of condoning it just because I live in the real world and not your 'We need to fight this!' fantasy world.
I can practically read your minds, I knew you were going to accuse me of condoning rape (You always do when yo don't get your way!) and you're going to try to change the issue because you know you are wrong and pretend you won the previous issue. Your hysterical kind is so predictable!
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s-m-r
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16th July, 2014 at 16/07/2014 18:16:20 -
Yup, I keep forgetting you're one of those guys. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
Keep up the superior work, Maltar. 
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Maltar Draco
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16th July, 2014 at 16/07/2014 19:40:50 -
What a troll!
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s-m-r
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16th July, 2014 at 16/07/2014 22:25:51 -
You taught me nearly everything I know about it.
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lembi2001
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16th July, 2014 at 16/07/2014 22:26:28 -
Originally Posted by Maltar Draco
I am truly laughing, right now at just how mentally retarded you are. Of course I believe rape should be punished by law. Not that you care anyway, you just spew whatever bullshit suits your political agenda. You even go so far as to accuse me of condoning it just because I live in the real world and not your 'We need to fight this!' fantasy world.
I can practically read your minds, I knew you were going to accuse me of condoning rape (You always do when yo don't get your way!) and you're going to try to change the issue because you know you are wrong and pretend you won the previous issue. Your hysterical kind is so predictable!
Where do you get off calling me Retarded? Did I say you were condoning Rape??? NO, I said it is ALMOST condoning rape by responding with "rape is sex" - your words not mine. I live in the real world too, doesn't mean I have to like what goes on in it and AGAIN I AM FREE TO VOICE MY OPINION.
You are correct in stating that Rape should be punished by law, however due to the TRAUMATIC events that the victims suffer they often feel incapable of reporting the crime. I am not changing any issue nor am I hysterical. I just cannot understand how anyone including you can stand by and accept this topic matter. I do not have a political agenda and I do not spew "bullshit" as you so eloquently put it.
If you want to have a rational discussion regarding this then let's do it, however I do not appreciate being called retarded. This is a subject I feel VERY STRONGLY about and will argue with anyone who would like to try to defend it in ANY way.
To say it happens does not mean it should be accepted. To say that rape is sex is ridiculous, yes the act of rape features the act of sex however it is more to do with the removal of the ability to provide consent, it is about exerting power and dominance over the victim. At no point can the victim stop it from happening and at no point does the aggressor feel ANY remorse for the act they are carrying out. I would like to see anybody stand up in front of a judge and jury and try to defend the act of rape by saying "it's just sex".
As you quoted, according to dictionary.reference.com
1. the unlawful compelling of a person through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse.
2. any act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person.
3. statutory rape.
I have highlighted the key points in this issue. Unlawful compelling, Forced upon a person, physical force or duress. How anybody can defend the subject matter is beyond me.
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Maltar Draco
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17th July, 2014 at 17/07/2014 10:57:02 -
Much better argument this time, mate.
Lembi, you know that this thread is supposed to be about giving constructive feedback to tetsuya's game, which you know is of zero consequence to you; whether this game is made or not, you and the people you love will be completely unaffected by it. So why do you insist on the continuation of derailing of this thread?
And oh...
Originally Posted by lembi2001
You are almost condoning the act itself with this statement.
The one word you put in here "almost" almost changes everything!
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lembi2001
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17th July, 2014 at 17/07/2014 16:07:55 -
Do you not consider this to be constructive criticism then? Constructive criticism is designed to help the author identify what does and doesn't work well. Numerous users have identified that this part of the game is not well received.
I understand that the outcome is not controllable by myself or anyone on here however the author was asking for donations for a game featuring this mechanic. I am not derailing the thread in anyway shape or form. It is a natural evolution of the thread due to the content matter and the sensitive nature of the game mechanic.
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The_Antisony
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23rd July, 2014 at 23/07/2014 07:39:20 -
Video games are for kids. All sorts of people play them, but generally speaking; they're for kids. That's why it's irresponsible to introduce sexual imagery into video games; The rape makes it worse because it's also morally objectionable. The majority of klikers are between the age of 14 - 20 -- which also means you're introducing your game to a group of teenagers and asking them not to click the NSFW link -- not likely. I'm sorry Tetsuya, but you've got to be mentally slow to think a topic like this would blow over well around here.
We need to be realistic, though. Tetsuya is a noob and whether or not the hentai rape content is considered, this game is going to be awful. The only people interested in playing this wretched crap-pile will be people who are just as socially maladjusted and obsessed with shitty anime rape porn. I foresee 20 downloads maximum. I doubt any of them will be paying customers. I'm not too worried about thousands of kids downloading Bond of Blood and thinking rape is acceptable, but I think the least he could do would be explain that hentai is rape pornography. 'Hentai' might be a universally comprehensible terminology among irresponsible and morally objectionable internet fetishists, but most of the known world don't understand what that term means.
Rape isn't just sex; That's not even a defensible opinion. Rape is usually about assertion of power. It's often purposely violent and it's practically celebrated by hentai artwork. I can't personally fathom how anyone could find hentai interesting in any regard - the artwork itself isn't admirable because most of it is completely amateur and done in the vague style of whatever manga variation the artist picks. Most of these hentai games source artwork from backwater cannon anime artwork websites where 'artists' jump at the chance to include their artwork in any kind of game for nearly free. Nearly - meaning there was probably some kind of shady image library transfer before this deal goes down; Oh, and fappery.
There's no point in paying any attention to Tetsuya or his game releases. I wouldn't offer him help if he needs assistance in any regard. I don't think he's any kind of harm - just irresponsible, morally objectionable, socially maladjusted, and obsessed with shitty anime rape porn. Eww... go away.
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Maltar Draco
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23rd July, 2014 at 23/07/2014 16:01:14 -
Wow... Grim, seriously? That's what you're going with? "Video-games are for kids." So what? That is not an argument, sure... most games are for families, as are most EVERYTHING! I saw How to train your Dragon 2 today without any kids with me and I think that film was absolutely brilliant, IMDB is filled with reviews for kid's shows written by adults saying how great they are.
If you believe these things should only appeal to children and that adults aren't allowed any culture then you are dead on the inside.
And yes, some things specifically are for adults. Family Guy for instance, is a great cartoon and I very much enjoy watching it. It is not irresponsible to make or defend Family Guy, it is only irresponsible to let children watch it, not that you are capable of comprehending that in any way, shape or form.
There's a very good reason why we have this, you know.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_picture_rating_system
Originally Posted by GrimFusion
There's no point in paying any attention to Tetsuya or his game releases. I wouldn't offer him help if he needs assistance in any regard. I don't think he's any kind of harm - just irresponsible, morally objectionable, socially maladjusted, and obsessed with shitty anime rape porn. Eww... go away.
And what you guys are doing to Tetsuya, basically is gang-rape. Irony!
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The_Antisony
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23rd July, 2014 at 23/07/2014 21:42:15 -
Originally Posted by Maltar DracoWow... Grim, seriously? That's what you're going with? "Video-games are for kids." So what? That is not an argument, sure... most games are for families, as are most EVERYTHING! I saw How to train your Dragon 2 today without any kids with me and I think that film was absolutely brilliant, IMDB is filled with reviews for kid's shows written by adults saying how great they are.
If you believe these things should only appeal to children and that adults aren't allowed any culture then you are dead on the inside.
And yes, some things specifically are for adults. Family Guy for instance, is a great cartoon and I very much enjoy watching it. It is not irresponsible to make or defend Family Guy, it is only irresponsible to let children watch it, not that you are capable of comprehending that in any way, shape or form.
There's a very good reason why we have this, you know.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_picture_rating_system
Originally Posted by GrimFusion
There's no point in paying any attention to Tetsuya or his game releases. I wouldn't offer him help if he needs assistance in any regard. I don't think he's any kind of harm - just irresponsible, morally objectionable, socially maladjusted, and obsessed with shitty anime rape porn. Eww... go away.
And what you guys are doing to Tetsuya, basically is gang-rape. Irony!
I'm not assuming adults aren't allowed their own 'culture'. You're ignoring that that more than half of the world specifically attempts to appeal to adults. The only market within which rape is somewhat acceptable is porn. Hentai qualifies as porn. So far, you've attempted defending porn by comparing it to children's movies. Great logic there, Captain.
Children's movies that include adult-oriented material don't include rape themes or pornography. Programming like Family Guy may specifically be written for adults, but doesn't routinely include porn or rape scenes. Grouping rape in with sexual innuendo, crude humor, and loosely qualified adult-entertainment is kinda twisted. It's not the same ball-field. While hentai could be considered a form of entertainment, its fans usually like to substitute popcorn and mountain dew for a box of Kleenex and a bottle of hand moisturizer.
I don't have anything against porn. It'd be a little hypocritical of me to claim pornography is evil or say it has no place mixed into any other form of media. When it is done, it's done with proper notice and caution. That's why organizations like the Motion Picture Rating Association and the ESRB exist. Klik games don't have a system like that in place and Tetsuya hasn't made much of an attempt to explain why young users should avoid downloading Bond of Blood. "It's hentai" isn't enough and not including a detailed warning is strictly irresponsible on a website in which most of the content aims to appeal to teenagers.
Sexuality is a relatively private matter. People generally don't read porn magazines or air popular porn movies publicly. When I meet someone, I have no expectation that at any point I'll understand what their fetishes are. Perhaps that's why I'm so appalled. People who can't keep their sexuality a private matter are creepy. Flaming a creep on a forum isn't the same as gang rape - not even euphemistically, drama queen. Apples are not oranges. Learn what the word irony means.
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lembi2001
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23rd July, 2014 at 23/07/2014 23:27:28 -
Maltar the subject matter is NOT defensible in any way shape or form. For some reason you seem to have a hard on for it and are trying to defend it. I don't understand why, unless of course the subject matter itself interests you and that is what you get off on. If so, fine but it doesn't mean the majority have to have it shoved down our throats (no pun intended).
I am all for freedom of speech and all that crap however this does not belong on this site. This does not belong on a family site. The only place this would be seen to be acceptable are forums that celebrate the subject matter.
Tetsuya knows how the site operates and should have known how it would be received. Asking for money for this abomination just annoys me even more. As Grim said, I won't be offering advice or help to Tetsuya in the future and would advise anyone else to do the same.
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