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nim
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28th April, 2010 at 07:52:54 -
It's pretty slow here now. I mean, really. Let's talk about this. Even I notice it and I wasn't really using this site during its peak in 2004/5. What do you guys think went wrong?
Not enough new MMF users? People using GameMaker instead? TDC needs a re-design? Clickteam needs to advertise more?
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Cecilectomy
noPE
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28th April, 2010 at 08:59:42 -
tdc needs a re-design.
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Hayo
Stone Goose
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28th April, 2010 at 09:08:07 -
This place just isn't as fun any more. It used to be about a bunch of people having fun making games. Now it's about ignorance and nitpicking. This started in 2007 when people began using words like "meh" in download comments. I don't see any reason to discuss gamemaking here now and hardly see a reason to post my games. Maybe we just need a new community site (like we had a few of in the "golden age"). A site based on constructive gamemaking, kind of like what Gamebuilder could have been.
www.hayovanreek.nl
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alastair john jack
BANNED
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28th April, 2010 at 09:14:46 -
No more Phizzy I guess.
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markno2
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28th April, 2010 at 10:32:27 -
The original TGF and MMF 1.5 were easy to warez. MMF2 isn't. There's just no way for kids aged 14/15 to obtain MMF anymore, and no-one wants to make a game without using the latest / most powerful tools, because it would suck and be a waste of effort. I know what I just said is against the rules, but that's my theory to why there aren't any new users. A re-design / nicer members won't do anything.
Clickteam needs to lower prices, but there's really no incentive for them to, since they're doing business just fine, I assume... Sooo, I 'unno what we can do.
For the record, I bought MMF1.5 off Amazon / never used MMF2 apart from the demos, kthx. 
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Discarded pizza boxes are an indispensable source of cheese.
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Ricky
loves Left For Dead 2
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28th April, 2010 at 11:04:45 -
Originally Posted by Hayo
kind of like what Gamebuilder could have been.
You talk about us like we are dead Hayo LOL
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Hagar
Administrator
Old klik fart
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28th April, 2010 at 11:23:12 -
I think Hayo hit the nail on the head, the community here for me is just not as fun anymore due to the non constructive nature. I left from klik about 4 years ago when all this just started happening - why exactly did Phizzy get banned? It seemed like a lynch mob was brewing for him, just wondering if he got banned for a real offence or if admins got pressured into it.
Nim I have also been thinking of making a post like this, it is very noticeable, especially after being out of klik for as long as I have.
The community needs Ashman!
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Ski
TDC is my stress ball
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28th April, 2010 at 11:31:11 -
Originally Posted by Ricky
Originally Posted by Hayo
kind of like what Gamebuilder could have been.
You talk about us like we are dead Hayo LOL
He's still bitter 5 months on because his graphics weren't used to make Klik Academy 2. It's okay, Im sure he'll get over it by the time he's 50 or something.
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MGEnterprise
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28th April, 2010 at 14:13:54 -
i think when we see a few good top notch games designed by MMF then we will see more people, when one person makes a game which shocks everyone, you will be suprised how quick people will join the community
Download World Football QUIZ Demo
http://mgenterprise.comyr.com/QuizDemo2.zip
Not an installer lol..
www.mgenterprise.co.uk
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alastair john jack
BANNED
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01/10/2004
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28th April, 2010 at 14:30:46 -
Probably cause most people are getting older and not having as much fun? Everything seems more amazing when your younger. I don't know.
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OMC
What a goofball
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28th April, 2010 at 14:41:33 -
A few of these ideas seem plausible to me. It may be a combination of factors.
I started to think of how we could encourage being more constructive, but then I realized that it's not likely that any new rating or comment system would fix it. If it needs to be more constructive, it's up to the members to make it so. Perhaps I'm crazy, but I thought this was already improving here.
TDC could probably use a facelift. But that's all it would be. The effect would quickly wear off, since the core of what makes it a community is already here.
MMF2 being too expensive/not having enough users seems to be a possible and logical contributing issue.
Truthfully, I think part of it is that some new people are discouraged from visiting here because they're told about drama and stupidity. And perhaps that's not entirely unfounded... As it would be with any community site. Like Alastair said, a lot of the "old" generation have left for life stuff or other hobbies.
But then also, it always seems like a new slow whenever spring rolls around (in the northern hemisphere).
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Phredreeke
Don't listen to this idiot
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03/08/2002
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28th April, 2010 at 16:25:14 -
Ok, to encourage people without MMF2 to make and submit games, how about a K&P or TGF competition?
K&P would be particularly fun since there's a lot of limits to work around.
- Ok, you must admit that was the most creative cussing this site have ever seen -
Make some more box arts damnit!
http://create-games.com/forum_post.asp?id=285363
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MGEnterprise
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28th April, 2010 at 17:15:25 -
Originally Posted by alastair john jack
Probably cause most people are getting older and not having as much fun? Everything seems more amazing when your younger. I don't know.
i dont think this is the problem because when you get older you get more experienced and that helps..
Download World Football QUIZ Demo
http://mgenterprise.comyr.com/QuizDemo2.zip
Not an installer lol..
www.mgenterprise.co.uk
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nim
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17/05/2002
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28th April, 2010 at 18:03:45 -
I don't think reviving the community has much to do with the quality of games being released. On the contrary, we've had more professional games than ever in the last few years: Knytt, Noitu Love, Chalk, Bonesaw (etc) but this community still feels like a smoldering campfire.
I think it's probably down to a few reasons. I certainly agree with Hayo on the point that the feedback here isn't what it used to be, and the level of general negativity in comments has curiously gone up - although you could argue that the latter has also been noticed on bigger sites like Tigsource.
For me, personally, it's just as Alastair said: when you "outgrow" this site (as in maturity, if that's OK to say), there's nowhere else really to go. The Clickteam forums seem to be quite dry and Tigsource is cliquey. Total Klik (whichever version you remember) had a good community atmosphere where people could equally talk about games and have fun talking about anything else.
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CYS
Oldie
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03/01/2002
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28th April, 2010 at 18:19:53 -
Could be that the general barrier to entry to game creation has been broken down with the introduction of xna and stuff. Even the unreal engine is made free now. Not to forgot new competitors like constuct and love. Click products wasn't even that popular back in the days, and could be worse now.
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