MBK: "EOTM (engine), DOTM (demo), SOTM (story), GUIOTM (graphical user interface), VOTM (video), FXOTM (sound or graphical special effects), COTM (character), MOTM (member of the month) "
9 seperate awards each month? If these are all 1st, 2nd, 3rd place awards theres 27 awards each month. I don't think it's good to throw awards left right and center, within a month's worth of submissions if there was EOTM SOTM DOTM etc etc etc we will end up awarding every submission made. Sure, it's good to be rewarded for your work but at the same time if 50%+ of each month's submissions authors are receiving awards then it's not really a reward is it, it's more of a pat on the back than an award for doing really well with your submission. I think GOTM is fine, and if submissions came more often GOTW would be fine too.
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I like the GOTM system more, because mainly of the reasons Rikus said, it seems more logical thinking about it.
But, the only thing I dislike is you can only vote once. If there are 3rd/2nd/1st awards, I would like so I can vote for my first choice (that gets 3 points) my second choice (that gets 2) well you get the message.
But all in all, its a good system at the current time with the amount of games being released.
Nah, if those were all done it'd be one award a piece of course ... I wouldn't want all of those anyway, I just sorta threw a bunch out there because I figured people would say, "well, if you add an engine award, then why not add alot of awards for other stuff too?" ... <shrugs> ... the only thing I care for is the Engine award and the GOTM of course, although Artwork might be a good one to have.
Maybe just a "Special Mention" award each month and a statement of what it is for (engine, artwork, or something else on those lines)
that way it covers more than just engines, so you'll always have something to give the award for.
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Originally Posted by <Joel><Poobical>If there are 3rd/2nd/1st awards, I would like so I can vote for my first choice (that gets 3 points) my second choice (that gets 2) well you get the message.
I like the idea of 'instant runoff' votes like this. It's a matter of coming up with code that lets a single user select their first, second, and third choice (which I've not actually seen on any other websites similar to TDC yet). I reckon you would see a lot more points spread out across the board, and in fact some real surprises, particularly for third and sometimes even second place. More game-makers would feel better about the games they make, just because they received points when normally there wouldn't be any "extra points" to spread around. A point-based system allows for more personal preferences from the voters to shine through.
As it stands, I think I would be in a real bind if I were to vote. Being forced to stick to one choice only can be difficult, and this month is no exception; I'd honestly have to flip a coin to choose the recipient for my only vote.
Originally Posted by <Joel><Poobical>If there are 3rd/2nd/1st awards, I would like so I can vote for my first choice (that gets 3 points) my second choice (that gets 2) well you get the message.
I like the idea of 'instant runoff' votes like this. It's a matter of coming up with code that lets a single user select their first, second, and third choice (which I've not actually seen on any other websites similar to TDC yet). I reckon you would see a lot more points spread out across the board, and in fact some real surprises, particularly for third and sometimes even second place. More game-makers would feel better about the games they make, just because they received points when normally there wouldn't be any "extra points" to spread around. A point-based system allows for more personal preferences from the voters to shine through.
As it stands, I think I would be in a real bind if I were to vote. Being forced to stick to one choice only can be difficult, and this month is no exception; I'd honestly have to flip a coin to choose the recipient for my only vote.
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Originally Posted by -Adam- Also into the suggestion box: A poll next time admin applicants come forth.
I'd disagree with this. It seems the best admins are chosen undemocratically. In fact, the first admin election was a poll, and Mike canceled for some reason and made applicants write an essay, it was the same thing. There was also one time when it was chosen democratically and didn't turn out so well. The higher admins have a better picture of what the admin team has and what it needs and while I wouldn't have voted for some of the new admins, they turned out much better than I expected.
On the EOTQ..
I think an engine of the quarter would be nice. There's like 5 engines, 5 tutorials every quarter, so it's a nice amount of choices. The only problem is that I don't think too many people would vote. On that special mention, we had a Recommended tag for games and engines a while back, but the admins stopped doing that after people were complaining that their games weren't getting recommended
Disclaimer: Any sarcasm in my posts will not be mentioned as that would ruin the purpose. It is assumed that the reader is intelligent enough to tell the difference between what is sarcasm and what is not.
It's just as likely that he's in the habit of responding to posts he agrees with. If you could reduce the number of digs at specific members and the frequently nonsensical negative commentaries on others people that'd be appreciated, Adam.
Not sure how I feel about the change from GOTW to GOTM - it's a much more prestigious prize now, with a lot more competition, but these last few months have pitted some of my favourite new klik games against each other. I think ultimately it's a good move, just for the sake of quality GOTM now represents.
Ill post as many opinions and observations as I like. I could be blunt like MasterM and just call people tossers or other vulgarities, but when I say something I more often than not have a perfectly valid point. And with that, I won't be asked how to behave by such a newbie member, with so little to show on the site.
TDC is a community site (a reason why people should have been allowed to choose which admins were chosen in the first place) and older members (providing they're normal and respected by most), or people who contribute the most to a site should be given the privileges. I would've thought Rikus would appreciate this idea considering how successful he wants TDC to be, with people helping him out throughout the years, and I guess he did with OMC and Jon_Lambert as people liked them and they were regular posters.
You need to gain authority and respect before you start throwing your weight around (about 5 people knew you when you got the admin position). I seem to recall you had fun deleting 5 or more comments on your first day as admin. If it's powerkicks you're after, perhaps you should have applied to Total Klik when it was still up and running. (Total Klik was another community website since before you were around )
How many people really have a problem with Robert? Really?
Adam, your entire argument against his adminship hinges on the fact he hasn't been here all that long. Is 2 years not enough? You really do choose some bizarre fights.
I'd hazard to say that the lead admin(s) should be the one(s) to determine who is granted or who loses admin status, regardless of the website in question. Unless I'm mistaken, that's how things have happened here. Popularity (or one's sense of entitlement) should have nothing to do with it.
Hullo Adam, I'm not going to give the issue much more time in this thread so you'll have to make do with what I give you. These are things I've said before, but you insist on forgetting them so I'll just link to this post from now on.
I've been kliking since 02, and a daily lurker on TDC since somewhere around 05, 06, infrequently visiting before then. This is the fourth time I've replied to you with this fact.
As for accusations of 'powerkicks', 'throwing my weight around'... I (unfairly?) see these as baseless insults. You've a knack for insults, and as they're usually about tearing people down I'm making a guess that they're down to your insecurity, and the anonymity the internet provides you. You may adopt valid points at times but you undermine yourself with a snide manner and strange grudges. An insult doesn't need to contain vulgarities to be an insult, as you know.
I doubt you believe most of the things you accuse me of, you're just trying to create drama, in the hope the online audience will in some way believe you. You've got a blend coefficient of 240, and it's a shame you waste your energies with this nonsense when you have an artistic ability to nurture.
I reckon you should make a new topic and we can see what the objections to me really are, perhaps you can encourage some people to post. You talk for these people a lot but I'd rather hear from them. Otherwise, I think you should stop pretending it's a large crowd of unknown people who have something against me and instead have the courage to admit it's you who has.
The many things you level at me, such as 'pretty boy' 'noob', 'pretending to be clever', 'powerhungry', your conduct on Gwerdy chat toward me, etc etc expose your personal grudge - one that bemuses me. I let it slip every time, because believe it or not, I can brush your opinions of me aside, but I'm an admin and if I see persistent unpleasantness toward other people I'll ask you to tone it down.
Does this seem unreasonable to anyone else? If you have a valid reply, Adam, please make that thread so this one can continue on topic from here.
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